Phoenix Development News (3) - Page 138

combusean · #**2741** Posted **Dec 14, 2011, 9:39 PM**

You know ... I sometimes understand some NIMBY complaints. The original project posted some weeks ago was kinda big for that lot and a density that might work closer to the downtown/midtown core area instead of yet another node of never-fully-realized quasi-density.

But five stories--in a struggling neighborhood, no less, poses a problem? Goode is being a numbskull of the lowest order by opposing something not only compatible but would bring new residents and investment. I can't freaking believe he would bite off his nose to spite his face like that.

combusean · #**2742** Posted **Dec 14, 2011, 9:48 PM**

Images for the article featuring a shot of the design with the developer and outlines for the other lots are available here:

http://www.bizjournals.com/phoenix/print-edition/2011/12/09/plans-lining-up.html?s=image_gallery

dtnphx · #**2743** Posted **Dec 14, 2011, 9:50 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by Don B.

In this week's Dec. 9th Phoenix Business Journal, there is an article about a developer trying to get approval for a 5 story apartment project on the east side of 12th Street between Washington and Jefferson. The project's name is Blue on 12th Street, and consists of one story of parking and retail topped by four stories of apartments. His proposal is being fought by Calvin C. Goode, who apparently prefers dirt lots and junk to anything new like this. Goode told the PBJ that this project would "alter the texture of the neighborhood."

The renderings included look pretty blase, white and gray C-shaped buildings with smaller windows and lots of EIFS.

This developer has two other options for the NW corner of 11th and Washington, and the SW corner of 9th and Jefferson.

--don

Perhaps he has knowlege we don't regarding the developer's past projects, background, promises not kept, etc. Just because someone opposes a project, doesn't mean they are ill-informed. As you state, the renderings look blase. Maybe he's waiting for a better proposal.

trigirdbers · #**2744** Posted **Dec 14, 2011, 10:53 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by dtnphx

Perhaps he has knowlege we don't regarding the developer's past projects, background, promises not kept, etc. Just because someone opposes a project, doesn't mean they are ill-informed. As you state, the renderings look blase. Maybe he's waiting for a better proposal.

Well, when a better proposal comes along there will still be plenty of dirt lots to build it on.

Also, did people notice the thing about GROUND FLOOR retail? This is exactly the sort of project that people have in mind when they say transit oriented development; makes it better in my book than a lot of more "impressive" projects with no street level interaction.

gymratmanaz · #**2745** Posted **Dec 14, 2011, 11:27 PM**

Silly question. I can't tell. Which way does the roof tilt? It looks like it is on a slant showing its air conditioning units to the street or back neighbors? Optical illusion or just me thinking wrong.

HooverDam · #**2746** Posted **Dec 15, 2011, 1:01 AM**

Calvin Goode is a moron, most things he opposes should be almost immediately supported.

pbenjamin · #**2747** Posted **Dec 15, 2011, 6:51 AM**

I had occasion to speak at City Council several times when he was a Councilman. He appeared to be napping on at least a couple of those occasions.

Butta · #**2748** Posted **Dec 16, 2011, 4:08 AM**

Ground to Break on $182M Mayo Clinic Proton Beam Facility
By Amy Wolff Sorter

PHOENIX-The Mayo Clinic is ready to launch construction on its $182 million proton beam therapy facility. Groundbreaking is taking place today on the project, with completion slated for 2016.

Jim McVeigh with Mayo Clinic’s Division of Public Affairs tells GlobeSt.com that the facility at 5777 E. Mayo Blvd. will be open to patients in 2017. Concurrently with the Phoenix construction, Mayo is building a similar proton beam therapy facility at its home campus in Rochester, MN.

“We’ve been looking at proton beam therapy for the past seven years for our three sites,” says McVeigh, adding that the third Mayo site is in Jacksonville, FL. “The Jacksonville community already has a proton beam therapy center, but the southwest and upper Midwest don’t.” The Phoenix facility will be adjacent to Mayo’s Arizona hospital on what McVeigh calls “wide, open desert” rather than near the Scottsdale clinic. McVeigh adds that the proton beam therapy facility will serve the entire southwest.

The Rochester facility is expected to open its doors in mid-2015, with all treatment rooms fully operational at both campuses by 2017. Mayo Clinic estimates that approximately 137,000 cancer patients a year could benefit from this treatment; the current capacity is 10,000 per year. Once the clinics are operational, it’s estimated they could treat up to 2,400 patients per year; 1,200 patients at each site.

Read more at: http://www.globest.com/news/12_242/phoenix/development/-316509.html

Jimks · #**2749** Posted **Dec 16, 2011, 4:10 AM**

Has anyone peeked into the window near the 5 guys sign? It's a long corridor with brick columns, wood trusses, and exposed brick walls. I'm hoping that they keep the character of this area to make up for the facade.

nickw252 · #**2750** Posted **Dec 16, 2011, 2:08 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimks

Has anyone peeked into the window near the 5 guys sign? It's a long corridor with brick columns, wood trusses, and exposed brick walls. I'm hoping that they keep the character of this area to make up for the facade.

I ate at the Chipotle last night. Aside from keeping the rafters and wood ceiling there wasn't a lot of historic character preserved. Overall it was nice however.

westbev93 · #**2751** Posted **Dec 16, 2011, 2:48 PM**

I'd imagine that the Chipotle building looks that way on the inside because they wanted to cover up the fact that the building is about to collapse. The 5 Guys building is in better shape and doesn't have all the steel support bars that I'd guess somebody thought were ugly. Also, I thought the Chipotle building was the newest on that block. I don't think it is very old so I don't know how much historic character there actually was to preserve.

I've never been to Chipotle because we have plenty of other burrito joints (and I cannot get the idea of underwear blood out of my head), but is it really that good? There was a line out the front door the other day.

PHX31 · #**2752** Posted **Dec 16, 2011, 2:55 PM**

Underwear blood?

I like chipotle: chicken burrito with black beans and rice. The green salsa and some cheese. That's my go-to.

combusean · #**2753** Posted **Dec 16, 2011, 3:03 PM**

As new restaurants open, others close. Local Breeze, one of my staples on 4th Ave and Fillmore shut its doors this week. Given that I'm 500' away from them, it's like I lost a close friend. =(

No word as to the reasons.

phxSUNSfan · #**2754** Posted **Dec 16, 2011, 3:53 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by westbev93

I'd imagine that the Chipotle building looks that way on the inside because they wanted to cover up the fact that the building is about to collapse...

I've never been to Chipotle because we have plenty of other burrito joints (and I cannot get the idea of underwear blood out of my head), but is it really that good? There was a line out the front door the other day.

The building is not about to collapse, besides being reinforced, it is made of concrete with a layer of brick inside. Aside from that, the buildings aren't very old; I believe they were built in the 50's...

Chipotle isn't that good but it isn't horrible. It is like McDonald's in terms of mass appeal except there aren't that many of them so they tend to get busy during peaks (lunch, dinner).

nickw252 · #**2755** Posted **Dec 16, 2011, 3:56 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by westbev93

is it really that good? There was a line out the front door the other day.

Yes, it's very good. I ate at the new one at Cityscape last week also.

NorthScottsdale · #**2756** Posted **Dec 16, 2011, 4:31 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by phxSUNSfan

The building is not about to collapse, besides being reinforced, it is made of concrete with a layer of brick inside. Aside from that, the buildings aren't very old; I believe they were built in the 50's...

Chipotle isn't that good but it isn't horrible. It is like McDonald's in terms of mass appeal except there aren't that many of them so they tend to get busy during peaks (lunch, dinner).

sometimes I wonder what planet you live on... you're comments are always just.. off. Chipotle is nothing like McDonalds. their burritos are f-ing delicious, and there's always a line out the door because it's delicious

westbev93 · #**2757** Posted **Dec 16, 2011, 4:54 PM**

Wasn't the Chipotle building reinforced because the whole western wall was starting to lose its structural integrity? I assume that the purple cross beams were not there for aesthetic reasons. Perhaps the interior is not exposed because the reinforcements are not as attractive when exposed. Also, for some reason, I believe that the building right on the corner with the Chipotle was newer than the other building (by something like 10 years), but I could be wrong.

If you do not know about Chipotle underwear blood, I assume you don't watch South Park.

I assume he made the McDonald's comment because, at one point, McDonald's had a fairly substantial interest in Chipotle.

PHX31 · #**2758** Posted **Dec 16, 2011, 5:42 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by westbev93

If you do not know about Chipotle underwear blood, I assume you don't watch South Park.

I'm not a loyal watcher, but I've seen a lot of episodes (although not that one). Care to explain, or just not?

I thought when Chipotle started out they wanted to use fresh, organic, non-enhanced meats and produce. And I remember seeing something somewhere that explained the owners wanted to keep their restaurants in more unique/urban/"sustainable" locations. Obviously that last part isn't the case any more, and yeah, I thought McDonalds bought them, but I still like Chipotle every now and then (and I'll likely never eat at McDonalds ever again - haven't in years).

westbev93 · #**2759** Posted **Dec 16, 2011, 6:13 PM**

There was an episode last year after Billy Mays (infomercial spokesman) died. There was a product called "Chipotleway," which cleaned the blood stains you get in your underwear after eating Chipotle. Kyle kept asking Cartman why he would eat food that makes blood come out of your ass, to which Cartman responds, "have you had Chipotle? It's really good."

McDonald's sold off its interest about 5 years ago, but for about 10 years, it owned a controlling interest.

phxSUNSfan · #**2760** Posted **Dec 16, 2011, 6:22 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by NorthScottsdale

sometimes I wonder what planet you live on... you're comments are always just.. off. Chipotle is nothing like McDonalds. their burritos are f-ing delicious, and there's always a line out the door because it's delicious

Not to bring ethnicity into this, but I'm used to real Sonoran/Mexican-American food. I can make it myself or eat at my relatives and have the real thing. I say it is like McDonald's because their ingredients aren't fresh just fresher than some fast food joints but it IS fast food and it isn't real ethnic fare. Just an opinion, you don't have to get butt hurt over differences of opinion. We each state our case and opinions; I have a bowl or burrito from the place once in a blue moon when in a hurry. It is what it is...