Surrey Updates

[nickinacan]

Originally Posted by Whalleyboy

also i was looking around and saw some 98b ave plans in the works again.

For those who don't know its the road thats suppose to go right beside king george skytrain station.

Personally i'm glad to see it back in the plans for being done. Its gonna be nice when Surrey is holding events at holland park and people dont have to walk all the way to 100th

Very true. I hope they follow through with developing a finer grid for SCC. The blocks as they are are not pedestrian friendly by any stretch of the imagination. I, as probably was discussed in many other threads, would love to see the Central City parking lot developed, with the access road between Old Yale and and 102 Avenue turned into an extension of the City Parkway. Maybe divide this land mass a couple of times to make it more walkable, then allow only high density mixed use development with business frontages staggered on both the City Parkway, the new streets and KGB.

[Whalleyboy]

There is another good thing that the road is getting done actually. Back before the olympics i asked the city why they didnt try and get the road done before the olympics started so when people came to the Surrey celebration site they would have to walk all the way to 100th. They told me that its cause that road was getting done by the people who were making holland pointe. but since it wasnt happening then the road wasnt getting done. So if the agreement is still there for that road its good sign that its getting done since holland pointe would be getting done too.

[nickinacan]

Yeah it really makes no sense to complete the road until everything is built. It would probably just become truck access for the time being anyways.

[Whalleyboy]

actually i think it would stop people from jay walking at king george station. I know the fence is there to try and stop people but they still do it.

[nickinacan]

Very true. That is a very long block. I am surprised they never stuck any pedestrian crossings there at all. Would have made sense to break up the block a bit.

[officedweller]

Edit - Moved to new thread

[tybuilding]

98B Ave extension and crossing is also an important connection of the BC Parkway trail extension see my Greenway map Master Plan of Greenways and Local Street Routes or the Surrey Greenway Masterplan Surrey Greenway Masterplan

[theQ]

I wrote to Bosa and asked them about this development... I got an email back saying that "We anticipate that we will begin marketing this development late 2012; hence, at this time we do not have any marketing materials to provide."

I had asked if there was going to be one development or two, and the reply used the word "this development" - so it sounds like it's only going to be one development.

I also have kept checking their website for additional info, and just recently, Central City has been added on their website for "upcoming projects" http://www.bosaproperties.com/upcoming_projects.php?project=55

If anybody else has any information, please pass it along!

Originally Posted by theQ

I drove by the new Bosa sign yesterday... And it is BIG, it's not just a small, non-descript sign. The first sign I noticed was at the East edge of the old "Brick" property - which made me think that the property is about to get developed.

However, a block later there is another identical sign on the corner or University Drive and 104th avenue, located on the old d'Corous land. I know that this is city owned land and that they had been going to develop the d'Corous as a joint-venture of sorts before it got cancelled over 2 years ago.

My guess is that Bosa is now going to build a low-rise on the old d'Corous site, and that the sign in front of the Brick is simply a sign for that development. I've noticed before that developers sometimes have a few signs, blocks away, announcing their development... Here are pictures from my photobucket.

I'd really like to see the Brick land developed, but I'm almost equally happy to see the empty d'Corous land developed as well - it's been quite an eyesore!

[GMasterAres]

If it is 1 development, it would have to be a large one. It's quite an extensive sized bit of land they are advertising as being part of "the development." Not sure if anyone else has better connections with Bosa to get a bit more details or not. Would be interesting to know.

Regardless the lots are seperated right now if the extent is really from University Drive to almost KGB. They'd have to go through a process of getting the lots adjusted. Maybe a couple of high rise developments? Could also be a large scale mixed use development project.

They couldn't get Semiahmoo done so maybe they want to do similar in Surrey Central minus the mall component.

[hollywoodnorth]

interesting Rafi project in Guildford >>

http://www.rafiiarchitects.com/guildford.html

[phesto]

Originally Posted by hollywoodnorth

interesting Rafi project in Guildford >>

http://www.rafiiarchitects.com/guildford.html

That site has been put up for sale, so I'm not sure if the new owner will proceed with the same plan. Not sure Guildford is ready for this type of project from a pricing perspective.

[Whalleyboy]

Info on the bosa project at civic surrey
http://www.civicsurrey.com/2011/11/16/bosas-bold-plan-for-downtown-surrey/

and its on bosa site kinda. All it says is coming soon but there is a link
http://www.bosaproperties.com/upcoming_projects.php?project=55

[LeftCoaster]

That is great news for surrey. Bosa is a very respectable builder, with them and Concord now having major stakes in the city centre you wont see the rash of never built proposals that have epitomized Surrey's development scene in the past.

That said you also wont see the pie in the sky development proposals either. Expect conservative 100m stuff. Bread and butter developments.

[GMasterAres]

Originally Posted by LeftCoaster

That is great news for surrey. Bosa is a very respectable builder, with them and Concord now having major stakes in the city centre you wont see the rash of never built proposals that have epitomized Surrey's development scene in the past.

That said you also wont see the pie in the sky development proposals either. Expect conservative 100m stuff. Bread and butter developments.

Like I've been saying for 5+ years should be happening first. They need to keep "getting stuff built" to move population and demand in. Then the big stuff will come.

Look at Burnaby and Vancouver. Did they build massive towers right away? Nope. Nor did Calgary or even Toronto or New York if you look back. You need to be established first then that stuff comes. Surrey is now heading the right direction IMO.

[LeftCoaster]

^Bang on. These are the most positive times I've seen for Surrey... finally they are on the right track.

[Whalleyboy]

So i found some news on Guildford rec pool. Heres a little info i found

1. 37.5m FINA short-course conforming, multi-purpose pool tank
to accommodate lane swimming (8 lanes)and springboard diving
primarily. Disabled accessible with and without traction devices.
(Original Program)
Area: 810 sm
2. 50m (52.5m) FINA conforming, multi-purpose pool tank to accommodate
lane swimming (8 lanes), synchronized swimming
(or diving), water polo, and underwater hockey as well as tower
diving (5m vs. 10m to be confirmed). This program component
results in almost twice the water volume and a significant additional
air volume due to its tower-driven loft. Disabled accessible
as per above. (Alternative Program)
Area: 1115 sm
3. L ifestyle Pool with zero entry (beach entry), interactive water
toys, two teaching lanes with generous adjoining deck space and
potentially moving water feature such as ‘lazy river’. This pool
component to be fully disabled-accessible.
Area: 660 sm
4. Deck Space includes additional area for moveable bleachers,
coaching lanes and lifeguarding. Also includes all stairs and
tower bases for diving and slide access.
Area: I ncluded
5. Swirl/Therapy pool + Wave Rider / Water Slide. This area allowance
prepares the ground for various aquatic options available
but not resolved at the time of this report. Note that in costing
this program area, only the building unit size cost is incorporated
below. Note also that this combined additional aquatic space is
actually dealing with two separate locations and feature options.
Area: 205 sm
6. E xpanded Change Facilities. The support change rooms for
men, women and families to include a renovation component for
existing change rooms as well as major expansion and integration
into the aquatic functional space. The family change room
space is to incorporate prone change facilities for the disabled.
Area: 460 sm
7. P ool Viewing on Deck. This area refers to public on-deck
viewing adjacent to main circulation to aquatic centre and is to
include small concession, seating at tables and adjacencies to
lifestyle pools.
Area: I ncluded
8. P ool viewing on Upper Level. This area is a publicly accessible
area overlooking the program pools. It is intended to provide
a permanent viewing of events and training in the program
pools and supplement the event spectator seating (moveable)
– see below.
Area: I ncluded – see item 10 below
9. Spectator Event Viewing. This is to be achieved via moveable
bleachers and results in a wider than normal pool deck that is
planned for in the deck area calculations. Such a row of event
viewing bleachers is intended to extend along the length of the
competition lanes. It is likely to yield approximately 500 capacity
for the 37.5 m pool and 800 capacity for the 50m pool.
Area: I ncluded
10. E xpanded Fitness Centre on level 2. This area is determined
by identifying the remnant space on top of the change/support
spaces below. It is intended to be integrated with the existing
fitness centre in the Guildford Recreation Centre. The actual demand
for fitness centre space is likely to exceed the listed area.
Since this space is a significant revenue generator for the facility,
there may be sufficient impetus to increase the fitness expansion
component.
Area: 400 sm (inclusive of pool)
11. Sauna, Steam Rooms.
Area: 25 sm each
12. O utdoor Access. This is intended to identify the desirability of
opening the aquatic centre to the outdoors as seamlessly as
possible. It includes features such as sliding glass walls and hard
landscaping to allow for indoor/outdoor connectivity.
Area: I ncluded
13. M echanical/Storage/Loading. This component includes support
spaces on Level 1 as well as Level 2 inclusive of loading and
conveying of materials between levels. It does not include the
service space around the perimeter of the tanks which is seen
as ‘foundation’ work.
Area: O riginal Option 540 sm; Alternate Option 630 sm
14. O ffices/ Lifeguards and First Aid.
Area: 25 sm
37.5 m Pool Total Gross Floor Area (Estimate only): 4925sm
Parking Requirement for above – on grade: 148 (plus 40)
-188
52.5 m Pool Total Gross Floor Area (Estimate only): 5430 sm
Parking Requirement for above – on grade: 163 (plus 40) -
203


now heres some images







photos all from my photobucket

[SpongeG]

i saw this posted on facebook


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[officedweller]

Nice!
Good to see that they're still planning highrises on King George Blvd.
The lot to the north of the taller tower seems to be excluded.

Copied to the Quattro thread...

[officedweller]

Great pics of Cloverdale Rec Centre and Chick Bailey Rec Centre here:

http://gallery.ceiarchitecture.com/

[Whalleyboy]

No pictures to show but i came across a file showing the city has city park way and 104 ave intersection plan in the works