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[whalley13]

Just a generic sign, 'bosa development coming soon'...i didnt see a code on it

[Whalleyboy]

Originally Posted by whalley13

Just a generic sign, 'bosa development coming soon'...i didnt see a code on it

usually i find best thing to do when you can't find anything on a project but you have a company name its best jsut to message them. Which i have done so if i hear anything back i shall let you know.

[webster]

Originally Posted by Whalleyboy

usually i find best thing to do when you can't find anything on a project but you have a company name its best jsut to message them. Which i have done so if i hear anything back i shall let you know.

is it across the street from the new City Hall? on the north side of 104th?

I think that is City owned land as well - likely a partnership between Bosa and Surrey City Centre Development Corp

[theQ]

I looked on the Surrey City Development website to see if it mentioned anything about the site... I didn't find anything that mentioned "Bosa" but I did find this interesting quote:

SCDC is also involved in a joint venture with Century Group on a major mixed-use tower in the City Centre.

The Century Group is the group that built the CityPoint towers near Gateway and had planned to build the three Holland Point towers in Holland point.

It'd be great to see a mixed-use tower in the City Centre...

[theQ]

I just looked at the Century Group's website. It refers to "Holland Point" development:

The three towers are designed at differing heights and to support a varied number of housing types, including single- and multi-family apartments and condomiums, as well as a rich mix of retail suites, office areas and commercial spaces.

I'd forgotten that the Century Group had acquired that land this past spring. This must be the project that the SCDC was referring to. It'd be great if this project was started, AND if a new BOSA project is started near city hall AND if Concord Pacific starts building the old "Sky Tower" development... It looks like Downtown will go through another "boom" in the next few years!

[Whalleyboy]

Originally Posted by theQ

I just looked at the Century Group's website. It refers to "Holland Point" development:



I'd forgotten that the Century Group had acquired that land this past spring. This must be the project that the SCDC was referring to. It'd be great if this project was started, AND if a new BOSA project is started near city hall AND if Concord Pacific starts building the old "Sky Tower" development... It looks like Downtown will go through another "boom" in the next few years!

I just looked at there site too. Call me crazy but look like newer renderings for pictures. I know it should think like this but i seem to have some more hope for those towers getting done again.
looks like we wont have to wait long to find out though
i saw this on there site

High-rise residential apartment buildings, ground residential townhouses and lower level mixed use retail, office and commercial space, construction beginning in late 2011 or early 2012. Design: Patrick Cotter Architect Inc

[LeftCoaster]

Those are definitely newer renderings, I remember this project from when I was working at Ledcor and we were working with different, older drawings. Same design but not as refined.

If I recall those drawings are from at least a year back though.

Does anyone know/remember the zoning status of the site?

[theQ]

Hopefully studies like this will encourage more office space to be built in Central City (Full Article Vancouver Sun http://www.vancouversun.com/business/Sub...+rapid+transit+report/5563744/story.html

It concluded that the importance of having office space close to SkyTrain appears to be most pronounced in Surrey, where the vacancy rate for office space without rapid transit is 25 per cent, “yet buildings near the SkyTrain are a hot commodity, with a direct vacancy rate of just 0.4 per cent.”
The index noted that Central City, with 572,778 square feet of office space, is fully occupied.
“Gross occupancy costs for buildings with access to the SkyTrain are 33.3 per cent higher than the rest of the Surrey market,” the report added. “The combination of high occupancy costs and limited vacancy in buildings with rapid-transit access allows these landlords to negotiate aggressively by seeking high net rental rates and offering modest inducement packages.”

I thought that I remembered the first Holland Point development to be mostly
residential, whereas this new proposal states that it will have a "retail suites, office areas and commercial spaces." I'm also wondering/hoping that the new Bosa development will be office space.

[GMasterAres]

Guessing the Bosa development is still on the down low. Let us know if you hear anything from them. Nothing from the city though, nothing on COSMOS, and can't find anything about that location anywhere so it's funny.

Not even a permit to put that sign up it seems.

Fun times. I do certainly hope Holland Pointe gets built. Century Group seems to have a pretty good track record of getting things built and getting them built in a reasonable time. With Concord moving forward with 4 more towers and hopefully in the next year construction of the other 3 towers in that area (residential by CRA, medical where Knight and Day are, and the 1 across from the hospital), add Holland Pointe and the area is getting better and better.

_STILL_ need _MORE_ on the King George Bvd section between 100th and 108th though IMO. There seems to be too much focus around KGB and Gateway. Need more, much more, around Surrey Central and need to get rid of the darned parking lots at Central Surrey and across at the Canadian Tires. Should be 8-10+ mixed use high rises built there.

[officedweller]

The third render of Holland Pointe at the Century Group website shows that the taller tower has what appear to be banks of fluorescent lighting in the tower - i.e. office? (although there do appear to be more balconies than your average office tower)

http://centurygroup.ca/#/developments/holland-pointe

Teasers at the Patrick Cotter Architects website (55 storey City Centre mixed use project? (could be the tallest Holland Pointe tower)):

http://www.cotterarchitects.com/#/projects

[Whalleyboy]

Originally Posted by officedweller

The third render of Holland Pointe at the Century Group website shows that the taller tower has what appear to be banks of fluorescent lighting in the tower - i.e. office? (although there do appear to be more balconies than your average office tower)

http://centurygroup.ca/#/developments/holland-pointe

Teasers at the Patrick Cotter Architects website (55 storey City Centre mixed use project? (could be the tallest Holland Pointe tower)):

http://www.cotterarchitects.com/#/projects

Maybe its not all the towers that have offices. Maybe just the main tower will be the mixed use one. I just want these ones to get going already so surrey can reclaim tallest tower outside of Vancouver...stupid burnaby lol

[theQ]

I drove by the new Bosa sign yesterday... And it is BIG, it's not just a small, non-descript sign. The first sign I noticed was at the East edge of the old "Brick" property - which made me think that the property is about to get developed.

However, a block later there is another identical sign on the corner or University Drive and 104th avenue, located on the old d'Corous land. I know that this is city owned land and that they had been going to develop the d'Corous as a joint-venture of sorts before it got cancelled over 2 years ago.

My guess is that Bosa is now going to build a low-rise on the old d'Corous site, and that the sign in front of the Brick is simply a sign for that development. I've noticed before that developers sometimes have a few signs, blocks away, announcing their development... Here are pictures from my photobucket.

I'd really like to see the Brick land developed, but I'm almost equally happy to see the empty d'Corous land developed as well - it's been quite an eyesore!

[webster]

Originally Posted by theQ

I drove by the new Bosa sign yesterday... And it is BIG, it's not just a small, non-descript sign. The first sign I noticed was at the East edge of the old "Brick" property - which made me think that the property is about to get developed.

However, a block later there is another identical sign on the corner or University Drive and 104th avenue, located on the old d'Corous land. I know that this is city owned land and that they had been going to develop the d'Corous as a joint-venture of sorts before it got cancelled over 2 years ago.

My guess is that Bosa is now going to build a low-rise on the old d'Corous site, and that the sign in front of the Brick is simply a sign for that development. I've noticed before that developers sometimes have a few signs, blocks away, announcing their development... Here are pictures from my photobucket.

I'd really like to see the Brick land developed, but I'm almost equally happy to see the empty d'Corous land developed as well - it's been quite an eyesore!

Both those sites are City owned, and i wouldn't be surprised if Bosa is involved in both of them. I think you'll see a tower on the d'Corous site.

[theQ]

It'd be great if they built a tower on the old d'Corous site - I think the d'Corous was supposed to be a 4 story low-rise. I'd much rather see a tower! Hopefully you're right and they'll develop the Brick land at the same time... I'd sure like to see the area around the new city hall built up quickly...

[CoryHolmes]

Originally Posted by theQ

It'd be great if they built a tower on the old d'Corous site - I think the d'Corous was supposed to be a 4 story low-rise. I'd much rather see a tower! Hopefully you're right and they'll develop the Brick land at the same time... I'd sure like to see the area around the new city hall built up quickly...

I thought it was going to be another low-rise/high-rise like the other side of University. Pity they didn't happen, I rather like the designs in both d'Cor and d'Corize (plus their sense of humour is par excellente )

[officedweller]

Please, no 4 storey low-rises in a downtown area!

[Whalleyboy]

Originally Posted by officedweller

Please, no 4 storey low-rises in a downtown area!

So you dont like quattro? or by dt do you mean the area right around central?

[nickinacan]

I am not sure if they can build a high rise on that corner due to the need to stagger the high rises so they can minimize the shadows during the day. I am sure if they got rid of that tower that already exists (Ted Kuhn Tower?) then they would be able to build one on that site. The only option I can see that would make sense would be on University Drive and 105th Avenue.

[Whalleyboy]

Originally Posted by nickinacan

I am not sure if they can build a high rise on that corner due to the need to stagger the high rises so they can minimize the shadows during the day. I am sure if they got rid of that tower that already exists (Ted Kuhn Tower?) then they would be able to build one on that site. The only option I can see that would make sense would be on University Drive and 105th Avenue.

besides the new city hall is gonna be pretty much the same size as ted kuhn so really that tower already loses its view from that side.

[Whalleyboy]

also i was looking around and saw some 98b ave plans in the works again.

For those who don't know its the road thats suppose to go right beside king george skytrain station.

Personally i'm glad to see it back in the plans for being done. Its gonna be nice when Surrey is holding events at holland park and people dont have to walk all the way to 100th