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Old Posted Nov 10, 2011, 4:56 PM
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It's still a rumour at this point, but I heard that a St-Hubert express was coming to Dieppe at the Thanh's Palace location on the corner of Pascal and Champlain st.

It might fill the vacant place at the back of that restaurant
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Old Posted Nov 10, 2011, 8:50 PM
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I've heard too that St-Hubert Express was coming to Dieppe... For the location, the only thing I heard was that it's going to be UpTown.
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Old Posted Nov 11, 2011, 6:37 PM
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Sorry Im flooding the page today...but I've been off for a bit so give me a break!

I also found an updated site plan for the Mapleton Power Center recently!

Its from a leasing broker company. On the plan they list 5 retailers.

Now I'll post this but please remember that it is possible they are not confirmed.

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The last one is just listed as "restaurant" on the plan...not sure if thats just an idea or they have someone lined up.

Here is the link to the full PDF file for the plan (better quality): http://www.paracom.on.ca/brochures/site_plans/391117397_moncton_site_plan___2011.pdf

There is an interesting looking snake-like feature on the bottom left...possibly a walkway down the hill?

Anyways, all in all this is a fantastic lineup of stores that we don't have yet. Freddy has a Pet Smart and is getting a Best Buy too, but as far as I know (correct me if wrong) these are the only planned Bed Bath and Beyond and Golf Town in NB.

Also with the movement of Cleve's from Trinity that will open up the slot for Bouclair, keeping that whole area full to capacity. So we could possibly see 6 new national retailers set up in the next year or so in this area!

To me it looks like the total sq footage says 268,000 (its a bit blurry) for all buildings on the plan. Trinity is 647,588. plus wal-mart, future shop, home depot, northwest center etc Id say we are looking at least 1,500,000 sq ft of retail in that area at this point.
I can't believe Charlottetown beat out Moncton on some of theses stores. They've had a Brick for like 4-5 years, Bed Bath and Beyond for 2 years and they are currently building a Petsmart as we speak (well maybe not today cause it's a holiday) They also have an Indigo (although Moncton has Chapters but I think it could support an Indigo in this new development or somewhere else in the city)

Also what does anyone think the chances are that one of the new restaurants is an Olive Garden, Kelsey's or Milestones?
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Old Posted Nov 11, 2011, 7:06 PM
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I can't believe Charlottetown beat out Moncton on some of theses stores. They've had a Brick for like 4-5 years, Bed Bath and Beyond for 2 years and they are currently building a Petsmart as we speak (well maybe not today cause it's a holiday) They also have an Indigo (although Moncton has Chapters but I think it could support an Indigo in this new development or somewhere else in the city)

Also what does anyone think the chances are that one of the new restaurants is an Olive Garden, Kelsey's or Milestones?
Moncton would have had these stores several years ago too - if the first iteration of the Mapleton Centre hadn't tanked.

Regarding Indigo - while I would certainly like to see one in our end of town, I'm not sure the market is big enough for both an Indigo and a Chapters, especially with what appears to be happening in "bricks & mortar" book retailing....

Regarding all the restaurants that you have mentioned, they would certainly be most welcome. The only reason why I chose P. F. Changs, Ola (Ela) and perhaps Jack Astors is because these are chains which have (or have had) expressed interest in the Moncton Market. Moncton used to have a Kelsey's about 20 years ago. Both Olive Garden and Milestones seem to be concentrating on larger western and central Canadian markets, so I think they are unlikely. Baton Rouge might be a possibility; especially since their new location in Halifax is a hit, and the chain is owned by Moncton based Imvescor.
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Old Posted Nov 11, 2011, 8:23 PM
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Baton Rouge might be a possibility; especially since their new location in Halifax is a hit, and the chain is owned by Moncton based Imvescor.
I made it a point to eat at both Baton Rouge and Scores on my last trip to Montreal. Would love to see Imvescor bring these chains to Moncton.
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I made it a point to eat at both Baton Rouge and Scores on my last trip to Montreal. Would love to see Imvescor bring these chains to Moncton.
Imvescor forced a sports bar in Saint John to change its name from Scores earlier this year, so something may be up for NB....
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Well I'm fairly certain that it isn't a Jack Astor's as my waitress at the Dartmouth Crossing restaurant said they were trying to decide between a 3rd Halifax restaurant (downtown), Truro, or Moncton. She also said that due to the shipbuilding contract that they have taken Moncton out of the running.

No idea how reliable this is but she does work there and seemed to know what she was talking about. Baton Rouge is definitely a possibility, and Olive Garden is now offering franchises in Canada. Would love to see some more Olive Gardens in Canada
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Old Posted Nov 11, 2011, 9:15 PM
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BTW, Olive Garden is only in Winnipeg, Calgary, Edmonton and suburban Vancouver in Canada. They closed all other restaurants a while back, but have just recently started offering franchises here again
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Old Posted Nov 11, 2011, 10:08 PM
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I am looking at the Lewisville/Wheeler intersection and I am starting to think I know how to fix it. What if just after the traffic circle you you had a flyover highway that went above the intersection and the train tracks. Then if you had the ramps go of the sides and underneath the current overpasses and come to an end at the current intersection underneath the new flyover highway. Possibly in a bigger project you could probably replace the whole traffic circle too.
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Old Posted Nov 12, 2011, 4:37 AM
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To be honest and I mean nothing by this... But I highly doubt a restaurant like Jack would make decisions based on if a city gets a big business deal, I've been I many small 15,000 - 50,000 people cities in Ontario that have them and the cities are dieing... So to be honest if that is a true... They need new management.
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Old Posted Nov 12, 2011, 1:32 PM
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I would agree with brod.

I can see how the shipbuilding contract might influence Jack Astors to build another Halifax location downtown, but it shouldn't preclude a location in Moncton.

A new large development like Mapleton should be quite attractive to a chain restaurant like Jack Astors. There would be heavy traffic in the area, which is the life blood of any food eatery. They seem to be lining up some good tenants for this development. Opportunities like this don't happen every day and I would think Jack Astors should think very carefully before passing up on the Mapleton Centre.

One last note, if you look carefully at the site plan that mmmatt found, in addition to the two restaurant pads near the entrance, one of thr other smaller buildings backing on Mapleton Road clearly has a drive-thru. Obviously this would either be a fast food establishment or a coffee shop like Starbucks.
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Old Posted Nov 12, 2011, 1:38 PM
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To be honest and I mean nothing by this... But I highly doubt a restaurant like Jack would make decisions based on if a city gets a big business deal, I've been I many small 15,000 - 50,000 people cities in Ontario that have them and the cities are dieing... So to be honest if that is a true... They need new management.

Oh I agree completely, just relaying what I heard
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Old Posted Nov 12, 2011, 6:51 PM
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So I went against my instincts and did groceries at the new Elmwood Sobey's today. Saying it was packed would be an understatement. You can tell the checkout lines weren't designed to support a mob lol.

I did hear an interesting tidbit while I was there. I was told once the Elmwood NB Liquor's lease is up, they will be building an expansion onto the side of Sobeys as was originally planned!
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I did hear an interesting tidbit while I was there. I was told once the Elmwood NB Liquor's lease is up, they will be building an expansion onto the side of Sobeys as was originally planned!
More than likely true. A lot of the new Sobeys being built have adjacent NB Liquors.
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I am looking at the Lewisville/Wheeler intersection and I am starting to think I know how to fix it. What if just after the traffic circle you you had a flyover highway that went above the intersection and the train tracks. Then if you had the ramps go of the sides and underneath the current overpasses and come to an end at the current intersection underneath the new flyover highway. Possibly in a bigger project you could probably replace the whole traffic circle too.
That's an interesting idea, but I can't see it happening. First, you'd run into the environmental issues of dealing with Halls Creek and the marsh and not doing damage. Second, you'd be talking a pretty massive price tag. Third, I just don't think you'd have the space.

The 1 Mile House Interchange in Saint John is pushing $50 million, and given the height and amount of ramps you'd need, probably wouldn't be too dissimilar. More importantly though, I just don't know if you'd have enough space to get a highway from ground level at the traffic circle, up over the Botsford tracks AND Church Street overpass, then back down to ground level in time to get under the University Ave interchange.


I still think the only practical solution to that intersection is to have Botsford have an overpass over Wheeler at the same height as the train tracks. Then you could have a diamond or parclo intersection onto Wheeler with at-grade rail crossings on the north side. It isn't ideal, but for the volume of traffic on those rails, it would be a hell of a lot simpler than completely rebuilding the entire road network in the university area.
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What if you removed the church st. overpass? If it just went up over the traffic light and train tracks? Is there some way to move the tracks? They should be able to come up with something that gets rid of that light.
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You could, I suppose, but I don't know why you'd want to. It's there. People use it. It would cost a fortune to re-route the train tracks, too.

Again, I think you could get rid of the at-grade intersection between wheeler and Botsford without much fuss just by building a simple overpass with ramps that cross the tracks at grade.
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You could, I suppose, but I don't know why you'd want to. It's there. People use it. It would cost a fortune to re-route the train tracks, too.

Again, I think you could get rid of the at-grade intersection between wheeler and Botsford without much fuss just by building a simple overpass with ramps that cross the tracks at grade.
I don't think the government would like to build that, but eventually they are going to have to. I just wish there was some way of avoiding those tracks.
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Imvescor forced a sports bar in Saint John to change its name from Scores earlier this year, so something may be up for NB....
It's been a couple of time now that I see an add in the french newspaper "L'Acadie Nouvelle" that Imvescor is looking for an investor to open a Scores franchise in Moncton. Hopefully, the'll find someone soon...
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I know that David has mentioned this on the forum but this is the (abridged) T&T article about the new Sobeys on Elmwood....

New Sobeys is a one-stop shop
Published Monday November 14th, 2011
http://timestranscript.canadaeast.com/news/article/1455735

On-site chef and holistic nutritionist can help guide customers to new, healthy meals
By Shannon MacLeod
Times & Transcript staff

There was a shopping-cart traffic jam on Saturday as Moncton residents waited to go through the checkout during the grand opening of the newest Sobeys in the city, located at 77 Filles de Jesus Ave.


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shopper pushes a shopping cart in the parking lot of the new Moncton Sobeys on Saturday after the official opening at 8 a.m.

This newest Sobeys offers a variety of innovations. It has a full-time Red Seal chef, a holistic nutritionist and a pharmacist, and offers hand-made Ganong chocolates, ready-to-go meals, freshly roasted coffee beans and a community room for functions.

The community room is named the Filles de Jesus Community Room as an acknowledgement the long-standing home of the order of nuns whose convent stood on the new store's land for decades.

These innovations were a part of the master plan to bring a market feel to the 50,000 square foot grocery store, said store manager Todd Redmond.

"It's the fresh zone," he said. "When you walk in the door you want to be able to smell the fresh coffee."

And is it ever fresh. They bring in raw coffee beans and roast them on site, and they're the first store in the New Brunswick and Prince Edward Island area to have an on-site roaster, said Redmond.

"It roasts them for seven minutes at 200 degrees to cook the beans, all high-end beans. We can bag them whole or we can grind them for you."

The hand-made Ganong chocolates are made on site at the store, said Redmond.

"They're actually rolled by an apprentice. They're hand dipped, not done by a machine."

On a daily basis, (chef Rob) Colpitts will be spearheading a new program called Butcher's Own, he said.

"Basically it's protein, ready to cook and in under 60 minutes, you can have a meal put together and that's why I'm here," the chef explained.

With this new Sobeys program, Colpitts will prepare beef, chicken, pork, seafood or any kind of protein so shoppers can take it home and throw it in the oven and it's ready to go, said Colpitts.

"It's all ready. Starting next week I'm going to be doing sauces. Everything in the store, whether it be a package or a bottle, I'll show how easy it is to create a meal, create a sauce, have a protein, take it home and it's ready to go in less than an hour."

This Sobeys is one of three in the Maritimes to have a full-time Red Seal-certified chef on staff, said Colpitts.

"Sobeys, they've always been about service and food," he said. "But they've never had the answers to questions people might ask, like how to cook something, so that's why they've hired (me)."

If people have questions about anything related to cooking, or creating in the kitchen, they can talk to Colpitts about it, he said.

Like Colpitts, Brittany Leeman, a registered holistic nutritional consultant, will be available to assist shoppers with anything dealing with well being and natural sources, she said.

"So we try to focus on vitamins, supplements, gluten-free products, alternatives to dairy and things like that."

Not only a resource, Leeman will also be offering classes on a variety of topics, depending on what kind of questions customers are asking, she said.

personal note - the new Lawton's Pharmacy next to the new Sobeys also opened on the weekend. It's really a zero sum gain for Elmwood Drive however, because the old Price Chopper closed with the opening of the new Sobeys and the old Lawtons further down Elmwood is also now closed. When the new NB Liquor location opens, the old store on Elmwood will also close. This will leave some significant vacancies on the street.....
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