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Old Posted Aug 14, 2011, 4:14 PM
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I agree with you Greg, the Justice complex looks good. Appears to be 7 stories at the highest point. Nice to see that it has a very urban look to it and will definitely fit in with the uptown vibe.

You bring up an interesting point about Union Street as well. I was head eastward on Union the other day past the Iceberg, etc.. and was wondering if the new police station will start to impact that end of Union and we will see some higher quality establishments move in.

It is so encouraging to see the amount of momentum that uptown currently has going. I am excited to see some news on the Coast Guard site.
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I agree with you Greg, the Justice complex looks good. Appears to be 7 stories at the highest point. Nice to see that it has a very urban look to it and will definitely fit in with the uptown vibe.

You bring up an interesting point about Union Street as well. I was head eastward on Union the other day past the Iceberg, etc.. and was wondering if the new police station will start to impact that end of Union and we will see some higher quality establishments move in.
Indeed. If you drive along the Main Street viaduct towards the uptown the Justice Facililty looks awfully daunting. Looks like a kind of looming facility on the side of the hill. I personally love the look of it from that area, and it fills the area in nicely.

As for Union: As much as we all agree that Peel Plaza is a poor decision, it does do a lot for that area of the uptown. Union street itself is a real dive (Between Giant Tiger & the Brunswick Square Parking Garage), and this new police headquarters so do a bit to alleviate that. I've mentioned before about the Chinese owning property in that area, and i'm hopeful that Union street begins to turn it up a notch in terms of development. There isn't a whole lot on that side of King street and I hope that changes soon.
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The Justice Palace is coming along quite nicely. And I agree with cdnguys about the glass on HF Condos. Going to look really nice once its' finished.

I'm excited to see how Union Street turns out once that is all finished, too!
Hopefully this is the start of "Vancouver type" high rises with focus on glass as opposed to brick and cement with small windows.
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Old Posted Aug 14, 2011, 8:17 PM
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Another Historic Building being renovated to original form - Prince William Street

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For those with a sweet tooth, this is the site of my friend's new cupcake shop -- Piece O' Cake Custom Creations. They are set to open shortly after the Labour Day weekend complete with bubblegum pink awnings (approved by the heritage board, no less)! The exterior is being renovated by the landlord, Keith Brideau of Historica Properties.
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For those with a sweet tooth, this is the site of my friend's new cupcake shop -- Piece O' Cake Custom Creations. They are set to open shortly after the Labour Day weekend complete with bubblegum pink awnings (approved by the heritage board, no less)! The exterior is being renovated by the landlord, Keith Brideau of Historica Properties.
Exciting news! My wife has ordered cakes from your friend on a few occasions and has been anxiously awaiting the store opening. I know Keith well, his projects always turn out very nice.

All of the big box retail is great, but its the same in every city you go to. These are exactly the sort of boutique retail locations uptown needs and will differentiate Saint John.
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Urban Chickens

This week's PAC meeting should be interesting for those interested in the subject -- the city's first application to permit urban chickens! The application is for a 1 year temporary use as a trial on John T. McMillan Avenue for 6 chickens. An assessment will be made at the end of the trial period to determine if the City should allow urban chickens by-right throughout the city.
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Two more stores for East Point


Published Wednesday August 17th, 2011
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SAINT JOHN - An Atlantic fashion retailer is celebrating its second Saint John location.

Fashion retailer Pseudio opened at East Point Shopping last week. It is one of 24 Pseudio stores located in Atlantic Canada.

Pseudio opened at East Point Shopping centre late last week. A Pseudio store was originally located in McAllister Place but relocated to Brunswick Square a number of years ago. The East Point store joins the Brunswick Square location.

"They're one that we were very interested in bringing to the site. We've been working with them for a number of months to attract them to come to East Point," John Wheatley, said business development manager with East Point.

Tweed and Hickory, a men's and ladies' apparel store, is another new addition to East Point. The retailer, which originated in Nova Scotia and has locations across the Maritimes and Ontario, also sells kitchenware, home accessories and gourmet food.

The store is expected to open in early September.

"It really fits in with the atmosphere we're trying to create at East Point" Wheatley said. "They're both primarily clothing with some lifestyle components."

Both stores are fitting into existing space. Tweed and Hickory will be taking unoccupied space beside Le Chateau and Pseudio fits into the former Randy location. It is one of 24 Pseudio stores in Atlantic Canada.

Wheatley said the shopping centre is interested in attracting premium stores with recognized brands. East Point is "definitely" looking into expanding, Wheatley said.

"I think what these two stores do is just continue the momentum of the expansion of East Point and right now we're filling up the two existing buildings and the next step would be to move to some new construction," he said.

East Point's focus now is to fill up the existing buildings with tenants and then look into new construction between the main buildings and Costco. Wheatley said the shopping centre is talking with a number of prospective tenants and expects new construction to begin as early as next year.

Wheatley is excited for customers to experience the new businesses.

"It's an exciting time for us and we're glad to see the new stores opening," he said. "We hope they're going to be very successful."
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Project not dead: official
Published Wednesday August 17th, 2011
Funding: Deputy mayor says convention centre upgrade in doubt without Ottawa's help. But waterfront development GM calls MP's comments 'speed bumps on the way forward'
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Deputy Mayor Stephen Chase said he doesn't believe the project could move ahead without a cheque from Ottawa.

"The project is adversely affected," he said. "It can't proceed without other government funding - I don't believe so. It's really too bad."

On Monday, the same day the federal government announced more than $50 million in funding for Halifax's new trade and convention centre, Conservative MP Rodney Weston made it clear if he gets any infrastructure funds for Saint John, it would go toward water treatment.

Weston said finding another $3 million for the trade and convention centre is not something he's "actively seeking."

City officials had been banking on getting a little more than $3 million from each level of government to pay for the renovations to upgrade the centre, which hasn't changed much since it was built in 1984. The city had earmarked money in this year's capital budget on the condition that the province and federal government also contribute.

Chase said he understands Weston is focused on getting funding for water treatment, and it is the top priority for the city. "But there are other going concerns in the community, including economic vitality, and tourism is a cornerstone of that," Chase said.

But Kent MacIntyre, the general manager of Saint John Waterfront Development, has not lost hope in the project.

"We're still working with provincial folks for their share of the project," MacIntyre said Tuesday. "The municipality is very focused on doing something."

He said if federal money is freed up, he's sure Weston would ensure the city receives funding for the renovations.

"To me, all these things are just speed bumps on the way forward," MacIntyre said, adding the city might have to alter its approach.

Trevor Holder, MLA for Saint John Portland and the provincial tourism minister, concurs with Weston. He said water is the number one priority from a provincial perspective.

He said he can't say the Trade and Convention Centre is a priority right now, adding the completion of the Fundy Trail is the province's foremost tourism funding priority.

"At the end of that day, I would certainly see the Fundy Trail being completed before we had an expansion of the convention centre. That's not to say it's not a great project and it's not to say it's not something we would look at down the future. Right now it's not the priority of government at this point in time," Holder said.

The convention facility is located in Market Square and operated by the Hilton.

With Fredericton, Moncton and other Atlantic Canadian cities enhancing or building new trade and convention centres, tourism officials have warned that Saint John could be in danger of missing out on lucrative conferences if it doesn't upgrade its facility.

The chance of getting a new hotel at the recently purchased coast guard site could also hinge on renovating the convention centre, Chase said, because conferences fill hotel rooms.

Tony Gogan, the chairman of Enterprise Saint John, said both water treatment and upgrades to the trade and convention centre are important for different reasons.

"We've got a great facility that's dated," he said. "If we look around the marketplace, other cities have either new convention centres or rehabilitated ones. For us to be competitive in the marketplace, it's the belief of the business community that it does need a refurb."

Before he heard Weston's comments, Mayor Ivan Court said the Halifax announcement was a sign there was federal money available for similar projects. The mayor was travelling to Calgary on Tuesday to attend the Canadian Association of Police Boards' annual meeting, and was not available for an interview.

Meanwhile, the city needs $172 million for a new water treatment plant and related infrastructure. Saint John has one of the oldest drinking water systems in the country.

When Weston ran in the 2008 election, and again last fall, he said getting money for water treatment was his top priority.

Chase, who ran for the Liberals against Weston in the last election, said he would like to see Weston shift his approach.

He wants the MP to keep an eye out for an appropriate funding program or source, "as opposed to, 'Look, I'm just going to dismiss it,' " Chase said.

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Old Posted Aug 17, 2011, 6:29 PM
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Heritage concerns in Saint John

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Posted: Aug 17, 2011 11:29 AM AT


Several historic buildings in uptown Saint John are facing an uncertain future after the city bought them in preparation for the construction of Peel Plaza.

Plans for the controversial justice complex project have changed and many of the buildings, including the so-called jellybean houses, are no longer needed, according to city officials.

Heritage backers hope to see the group of city-owned buildings along Wellington Row, Union and Carleton streets preserved.

The streetscape is diverse and significant, said Leona Laracey, chair of the city's heritage development board.

'Designation is the only protection there is.'—Leona Laracey, heritage development board

"It contains examples of architecture over seven different periods in time," she said.

Many of the buildings date back to the 19th century and survived the Great Fire of 1877.

The jellybean houses, named for their colourful paint jobs, for example, were built around 1860. They are Second Empire row houses with distinctive carved windows.

The heritage group has a request before council that all of the buildings around Peel Plaza be given heritage protection before the city puts them up for sale to ensure they can't be torn down by future owners.

"Designation is the only protection there is," said Laracey.
City to issue call for proposals

Mayor Ivan Court suggested during Monday night's council meeting that all of the buildings might not be protected.

"It would be nice to have people in line to build something, whether we tear some of the existing buildings down and they're turned over to developers, whatever it happens to be," he said.

"So a proposal call, I think should be happening about some time this fall to get ahead of the game for the next building season."

Court said some of the buildings could be turned over to non-profit groups for renovation.

The multi-million dollar Peel Plaza project has been scaled back from the original proposal six years ago.

It has been estimated to cost $42 million and includes a new courthouse, police station and parking garage.

The project is scheduled to be complete in 2012.
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Old Posted Aug 22, 2011, 4:49 PM
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Great photos! Thanks for posting these updates, I especially like the Harbourfront Residences turning out to have more glass than originally rendered - although I still hate the roof.
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Great photos! Thanks for posting these updates, I especially like the Harbourfront Residences turning out to have more glass than originally rendered - although I still hate the roof.
Be patient-the roof is not finished yet. I think you will like it when it's done!!!
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^^^ i can't wait to see harbourfront all done, i think it will be great from top to bottom

the courthouse is looking awesome now that the glass is going in and i don't think i need to remind anyone that the abbey is really coming along as well.

now, i noticed something the other day when starting my new job, there seems to be a new building going up just down the hill from the old loch lomond mall near simonds middle school, it looks pretty significant, but it seems to have flown under the radar, anyone have an idea as to what it could be?
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Port Announces New Cruise Terminal - Pugsley C to be torn Down

SAINT JOHN - A second, smaller cruise ship terminal, with a rooftop patio offering commanding views of the harbour, will be constructed on the site of Pugsley C shed by next summer.

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Jim Quinn, president and CEO of the Saint John Port Authority, holds a set of plans in front of the Pugsley C shed, which will be demolished to make way for a second, smaller cruise ship terminal. The new building will be a multipurpose facility available for rental.
The public will get to a sneak preview of the building next month during an open house, says port authority president and CEO Jim Quinn.

"We're really excited about what we're doing down there," he said.

A call for tenders to demolish the shed has gone out, with a closing date of Sept. 6.

The construction is all part of a plan to allow two of the very largest cruise ships to dock in the city, giving the port the capacity to accommodate the biggest of passenger ships at both Pugsley C and in front of the existing Marco Polo Cruise Terminal. A third smaller ship could then be accommodated at Long Wharf.

"We're expanding our ability to handle the modern cruise vessels that are plying the waters and on the order books and will be launched in the coming years," Quinn said.

The ability for the port to handle two of the very largest ships of more than 300 metres, along with a third of about 300 metres, will put Saint John in a "very competitive" position within the cruise industry in the northeastern Atlantic zone, he said.

The architectural style of the new terminal will be blend with the Marco Polo Cruise Terminal, Quinn said, and lots of glass will ensure it blends in with John Rocca's condominium project across the street. At the same time, the new building will incorporate brick, in keeping with the city's façade.

A three-dimensional film will run continuously during next month's open house so that, along with the interior, visitors can see what the building will look like from the street and from the harbour.

During the port's land-use planning and the city's PlanSJ exercises, residents said they want greater access to the waterfront.

"With everything we do, I want to put it through the prism of 'how do we give people a better vantage point?' " Quinn said.

The new terminal will be a multipurpose building that can be rented for a variety of events and will accommodate about 100 people.

Final cost of the new terminal has not yet been worked out because the final design is not quite complete, he said.

Last winter, the federal government committed $4.5 million for cruise ship berthing expansion, which was matched by the province and the port. Anything spent above that will come out of the port's funds, he said.

Over the next 30 years, city planners imagine a waterfront alive with restaurants, offices, housing and lots of green space that would extend from Fort La Tour to Pugsley C.
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Pugsley C being torn down = great
New waterfront construction = great
Lack of residential and commercial uses on site = awful
Inevitable restrictions on the public from accessing the waterfront = very bad
More parking on the waterfront = atrocious

The design of the site isn't bad, but this is an area of prime real estate in a growing part of town, why do we keep letting the port get away with this stuff? Yes build the terminal, but at least put some of the adjacent land up for tender or proposals, or maybe build some retail spaces into the terminal building itself. Even if you're only looking at things from a tourist's perspective (which the port only does), then wouldn't it be more attractive to get off a ship and enter into a bustling, lively urban area rather than a big passenger terminal with a few trinket stalls?
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All excellent points kwajo!!

Just look how open, accessible and alive the Halifax waterfront is. It would be nice if some of this could be replicated in SJ as well....
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Agreed on all points, Kwajo. I can't say much about the design without seeing any renderings/site plans, but if the existing terminal gives us any indication, it'll be another squandered opportunity for an appropriately urban waterfront. Why wasn't consideration given to one larger terminal serving both berths, which would have allowed for less net land consumption and lent the possibility for more infill development? Water Street currently has a very fragmented urban form and the Marco Polo Terminal did little to improve the situation.

At the IOL Long Wharf open house a few years ago, I asked a presenter about the possibility of mixed-use development for the site. He told me that federal legislation actually prohibits residential uses on Port property. Logical from a legal perspective I guess, but even offices/retail would be eons better than tarmac.

The paradigm at the Port Authority continues to be that of maximizing industrial terminal space, despite the fact that existing facilities are grossly under capacity. Their draft Land Use Plan's stipulations for the Lower Cove-Lantic Sugar-Round Reef area are progressing in near-direct conflict with Waterfront Development's Inner Harbour Land Use Plan and PlanSJ, and I foresee this coming to a head in the not-so-distant future.
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He told me that federal legislation actually prohibits residential uses on Port property.

The paradigm at the Port Authority continues to be that of maximizing industrial terminal space, despite the fact that existing facilities are grossly under capacity. Their draft Land Use Plan's stipulations for the Lower Cove-Lantic Sugar-Round Reef area are progressing in near-direct conflict with Waterfront Development's Inner Harbour Land Use Plan and PlanSJ, and I foresee this coming to a head in the not-so-distant future.
I'm assuming it's all zoned industrial if considered part of the Port Authority.

Remember when the Horse-racing track and casino were proposed for the Lantic Site? LOL.

If you want to get it rezoned for Commercial & Residential use i'm sure you could go ask the Port Authority. And the City. And the Longshoremen, all of whom are notoriously difficult to deal with.

They can't figure out how to run electricity on the west-side, I can't see them coming to a logical conclusion when it comes to developing land. Could you?
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Pugsley C being torn down = great
New waterfront construction = great
Lack of residential and commercial uses on site = awful
Inevitable restrictions on the public from accessing the waterfront = very bad
More parking on the waterfront = atrocious

The design of the site isn't bad, but this is an area of prime real estate in a growing part of town, why do we keep letting the port get away with this stuff? Yes build the terminal, but at least put some of the adjacent land up for tender or proposals, or maybe build some retail spaces into the terminal building itself. Even if you're only looking at things from a tourist's perspective (which the port only does), then wouldn't it be more attractive to get off a ship and enter into a bustling, lively urban area rather than a big passenger terminal with a few trinket stalls?
My understanding is tha the Port's charter creates chanllenges for them.For example, the Port can only trade land not sell it.This is why transfer of the sugar refinary site to the Port was part of the Irving Oil proposal for Long Wharf. This is also the reason why it can't do a condo project.
On the other hand, the Port can develop a project that has retail/commercial space if it develops it or retains ownership of the land.The latter is a tall order since most developers don't like land leases since land is typically the major component-or the only component- of a project that appreciates over time.
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I'm assuming it's all zoned industrial if considered part of the Port Authority.

If you want to get it rezoned for Commercial & Residential use i'm sure you could go ask the Port Authority. And the City. And the Longshoremen, all of whom are notoriously difficult to deal with.
Under the existing (1970s) Municipal Plan, Port lands are zoned Transportation, and I assume the Sugar Refinery is zoned Heavy Industrial. PlanSJ's Future Land Use Map (9MB PDF) extends Uptown's Primary Centre zoning along the waterfront to encompass the Lower Cove and Sugar Refinery sites, following the example of the 2003 Inner Harbour Land Use Plan. Meanwhile the Port designates a continuing cargo role for Lower Cove and points south, and their primary candidate for terminal EXPANSION is the Round Reef area, into the water south of Lantic Sugar. The principal roadblock to modern, attractive development for these lands is the Port Authority (and as Mr. Rocca said, this is often due to its charter/mandate and federal legislation), and the Longshoremen who inform Port administration most vocally in favour of the status quo.
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