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If you want pedestrian traffic at the City's core, you need to bring in pedestrians from multiple locations around the area, and for that you will need a centralized mass transit destination- a Central Station of sorts. I don't see that yet.
Besides Union Station......what about 7th street/Metro Center (besides Union Station)?
     
     
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Okay. This is crazy. This is stupid and crazy and stupid. Also crazy. According to Curbed Los Angeles (http://la.curbed.com/archives/2011/08/ad_nauseum_sign_unit_edition.php) and Daily News (http://www.dailynews.com/news/ci_18682290) L.A. is going to form a billboard comity to try and figure out what to do with all the billboards in Los Angeles. Sounds good, right? Well, the issue is, this billboard commission is not going to be funded by the city. In fact, the commission specifically turned down $500,000 in funding from the city. Instead, the commission will be funded by, wait for this, PRIVATE COMPANIES. Namely, BILLBOARD COMPANIES. It's hilarious, in that incredibly terrible way. Of course, when asked about this new development, Billboard Companies have said that they are "very interested". I goddamned bet they are. Moreover, the council has said that they are looking into making at least 12 signage districts. 12! At least! That's enough to cover the whole goddamned city! Suffice to say, this is terrible news. I'm posting this in the L.A. Metro forum, too, as it obviously affects the rest of Los Angeles just as much as it affects downtown.
     
     
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No, Union Station or the others do not count.
I would have put one in South Park.
     
     
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No, Union Station or the others do not count.
I would have put one in South Park.
Why? The only time business would pick up at South Park would be when there are events at all LA Live!, Nokia AND Staples Center. One venue itself does not bring high ridership. You cannot discount 7th street/Metro Center station. It's in the center of the financial district, surrounded by office buildings; and now on our Restaurant Row. It's THE CENTRAL station in Los Angeles. South Park does not have the office density as Financial District. Even other cities have their central stations at major office areas because office-home ridership is by far the highest reason people take public transit.
     
     
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No, Union Station or the others do not count.
I would have put one in South Park.
Why doesn't it count? Because it doesn't comply with the rules that you just made up?

South Park is in the corner of Downtown, wedged in the armpit between 2 freeways. 7th Street/Metro Center is very close to what I'd consider the true center of Downtown: 7th and Broadway.
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No, Union Station or the others do not count.
I would have put one in South Park.
Yeah. That's pretty dumb.
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That's what you get for being flippant! My center would have been comprehensive elevated transport around the entire region.
But no, Union Station is too small to accomodate the traffic coming in from outlying areas and is too remotely located in relation with Downtown.
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7th Street isn't served by this traffic but would be the ideal location for it. I can't imagine the kind of construction needed for those types of trains at 7th. The whole area would have to be opened up, resembling the World Trade Center construction site. And that would be a no - no in the current construction environment of present day Los Angeles! Can't have our own true Grand Central Terminal!
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But this is exactly what you would have to do- along with convincing everyone in the region to take trains into Downtown.
     
     
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AEG'S DESIGNS ON DOWNTOWN STADIUM
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IS A DOSE OF ARCHITECTURAL VISION ON AEG'S PART ASKING TOO MUCH?
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Oh, yessssssss!
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Let's assume AEG manages to build a massive football stadium and event center in downtown Los Angeles, an outcome looking increasingly likely following a unanimous City Council vote last week in support of the project. What would the arrival of $1.2-billion, 72,000-seat Farmers Field mean for downtown and its role in the larger region? For the city's architectural reputation? For the state of the urban mega-project in an age of austerity? We've gotten some tantalizing clues in recent weeks, though not from Anschutz Entertainment Group itself.
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The company has been aggressively mum about the progress of the Farmers Field design, as has its architect, Gensler, an increasingly busy firm that was known for decades as an interiors specialist. Instead, the details have come buried in the news of two other design firms hired by AEG and the city to work outside the stadium proper. What those clues add up to is this: The arrival of the stadium would give downtown another push toward true centrality in Los Angeles, or at least help make it first among equals when it comes to the city's many centers. But the impact on its immediate neighborhood, the South Park section of downtown, promises to be a whole lot less positive. Or, to be precise, a whole lot more of the same.
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Can you say "tiny?"
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In fact, if there's one thing we can count on — given AEG's architectural track record — it is that Farmers Field promises to expand, in seamless fashion, the reach and impressive scale of AEG-land, that sleek, glossy commercial oasis between South Park proper and the Harbor Freeway.
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The rather sketchy preliminary designs so far released by AEG show a stadium draped in a silvery, translucent exterior that dutifully matches the palette of Staples Center and L.A. Live and is shoehorned into a 15-acre site replacing the West Hall of the Los Angeles Convention Center. By NFL standards that's a postage stamp-sized piece of real estate. That shoehorning itself isn't the problem. Trying to fit an NFL facility into a constricted urban site without room for tailgating could make Farmers Field the football equivalent of the wildly popular new generation of downtown baseball parks: A fascinating experiment in bringing the sport back to the city after decades of suburban and edge-city exile.
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The problem is that because this is an AEG project, the stadium's most obvious architectural fealty is not to the city but to the corporate mini-world around it. That's not to say that AEG has been entirely deaf to complaints about the placeless quality of the architecture it has already built downtown.
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At the urging of the city's Planning Department and Planning Commission, it has enlisted Gehl Architects, a Danish firm that is known for intelligent streetscape design and has recently completed a sophisticated proposal to remake a stretch of Figueroa Street downtown. The involvement of Gehl's Oliver Schulze in the stadium planning process is a very good sign. Let's hope he is able to have a real effect on the streetscape plans around the stadium as the project moves ahead.
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Other news from AEG has been less positive.
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To build a replacement facility along Pico Boulevard for the demolished West Hall, AEG and the city together showed limited imagination in picking the firm Populous — formerly known as HOK Sport — earlier this summer. One of Populous' recently hired architects, Dan Meis, was a chief designer of Staples Center, which would seem to increase the odds that the new convention center building won't deviate much from the shiny AEG template. Oddly enough, Meis was also a lead architect on a football stadium proposal in City of Industry that has been pushed by developer Ed Roski as the chief rival to the AEG plan.
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Left unanswered so far, as AEG continues to keep the architects at Gensler away from the media, are a number of key questions about how the project will relate to the neighborhood and city around it.
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One is simply whether Gensler has advanced the design in any substantial way in recent months — or has merely been idling as AEG worked to pin down approval on the political front. Another is how AEG plans to treat the design of the two sizable parking structures that may rise between the stadium and the freeway.
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The stadium is one of two mega-projects in the works downtown. The other is a redesigned Union Station, set to be enlarged to make room for the arrival of high-speed rail service. L.A. County's Metropolitan Transportation Authority, which bought Union Station earlier this year for $75 million, is planning to release a short list of design teams for that project in October.
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Los Angeles is thus poised to create a pair of major downtown gateways: Farmers Field and an updated convention center on its southern edge and a remade Union Station to the northeast. In an ideal world, City Hall would seize on this double opportunity and insist on — or at least do what it can to promote — ambitious architecture at each location. But that would require that the builders of each facility take a leap of architectural faith. I'm willing at least for now to keep an open mind about Metro's plans for Union Station, which are in their earliest stages. Farmers Field, on the other hand, shows few indications that it will be anything but a smooth and compliant — if huge — complement to L.A. Live and Staples Center.
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After a brief moment of optimism about ambitious civic architecture in Los Angeles following the triumphant opening of Frank Gehry's Walt Disney Concert Hall in 2003, it appears the city could revert to its status as a place where the most talented local architects struggle to get any sizable hometown commissions, and where the most expensive projects tend to be among the most architecturally conservative. Given the state of the economy, Farmers Field and the Union Station expansion — along with Eli Broad's museum on Bunker Hill — may be among a small number of large-scale projects to be completed in the next several years in Southern California.
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That fact and the sheer scale of the stadium promise to give Farmers Field outsize impact, particularly when it comes to the urban character of downtown Los Angeles. AEG has said it hopes to break ground on the stadium next June. That means there's not much time left to turn its design prospects around.
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The stadium is one of two mega-projects in the works downtown. The other is a redesigned Union Station, set to be enlarged to make room for the arrival of high-speed rail service. L.A. County's Metropolitan Transportation Authority, which bought Union Station earlier this year for $75 million, is planning to release a short list of design teams for that project in October.
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Los Angeles is thus poised to create a pair of major downtown gateways: Farmers Field and an updated convention center on its southern edge and a remade Union Station to the northeast. In an ideal world, City Hall would seize on this double opportunity and insist on — or at least do what it can to promote — ambitious architecture at each location. But that would require that the builders of each facility take a leap of architectural faith. I'm willing at least for now to keep an open mind about Metro's plans for Union Station, which are in their earliest stages. Farmers Field, on the other hand, shows few indications that it will be anything but a smooth and compliant — if huge — complement to L.A. Live and Staples Center.
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After a brief moment of optimism about ambitious civic architecture in Los Angeles following the triumphant opening of Frank Gehry's Walt Disney Concert Hall in 2003, it appears the city could revert to its status as a place where the most talented local architects struggle to get any sizable hometown commissions, and where the most expensive projects tend to be among the most architecturally conservative. Given the state of the economy, Farmers Field and the Union Station expansion — along with Eli Broad's museum on Bunker Hill — may be among a small number of large-scale projects to be completed in the next several years in Southern California.
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That fact and the sheer scale of the stadium promise to give Farmers Field outsize impact, particularly when it comes to the urban character of downtown Los Angeles. AEG has said it hopes to break ground on the stadium next June. That means there's not much time left to turn its design prospects around.
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The author forgot to mention the Regional Connector project... the light-rail line that will create a subway in downtown LA and link the Blue and Exposition lines to the Gold Line. And, include 3 new stations. Maybe 4. Each will have the opportunity to create a sense of place.
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Many posts deleted for being off topic. Please keep the thread on the topic of Downtown LA projects or you will be suspended. To get things back on track...

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Tanning Booth Helps Sell Out New USC-Adjacent Student Housing

Curbed attended the opening of the West 27th Place development near USC today. The development, from CityView and Symphony Development, will be one of only four LEED Platinum certified developments in Los Angeles and the only student housing project in the nation to achieve that level of certification. The project has 161 rental units and will include 2,600 square feet of retail (including Five Guys Burgers and Fries, which you might have heard of). The development also includes 190 parking spaces for residents and 42 parking spaces for the retail (the development is located in the Downtown Parking District--one of the developers told Curbed that the city had pushed for zero onsite parking). And the development is already fully leased (class starts Monday!).

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Wow. Back from the dead.
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Major Chinatown Project to Move Forward

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On Monday, Aug. 15, officials with development firm Forest City Residential Group made a presentation during a meeting of the Chinatown Community Advisory Committee for the Blossom Plaza site. Although no votes have been taken, the Community Redevelopment Agency is set to recommend that Forest City take over project that could ultimately connect the Chinatown Gold Line station and Broadway with more than 200 housing units, a plaza and other elements.
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Kevin Ratner, president of Forest City West, the Downtown branch of the company that operates its West Coast holdings, said that since they are still considered candidates, the firm cannot release details on exactly what their project will look like, the budget or timeline.

However, he said that because entitlements are already in place, their version would be very similar to the previously proposed Blossom Plaza plans.

“It’s going to be mostly residential,” he said. “There will be some commercial, some retail in it, and other things required by the CRA. A lot of things that were agreed to between the city and the previous developer will still be in the project.”
     
     
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^ Interesting, and definitely good news. This is a very important project for Chinatown. I'm curious to see what the Related version of the project looks like.
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^ Interesting, and definitely good news. This is a very important project for Chinatown. I'm curious to see what the Related version of the project looks like.
Knowing Related, it will probobly look very similar to how it looks now, if you know what I'm saying
     
     
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^ Interesting, and definitely good news. This is a very important project for Chinatown. I'm curious to see what the Related version of the project looks like.
I'm assuming you mean FOREST CITY, right?

BTW, JDR, you should move 1111 Wilshire and Chinatown Gateway to the "Under Construction" section of the OP.
     
     
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I'm assuming you mean FOREST CITY, right?

BTW, JDR, you should move 1111 Wilshire and Chinatown Gateway to the "Under Construction" section of the OP.
Okay thanks. Will do.

BTW, what happened to Blossom Plaza? Or... is that and Chinatown Gateway the same thing? Can someone refresh my memory.
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two different projects. chinatown gateway is already underway (6 story mixed use on broadway and ceasar chavez, and Blossom just selected Forest City to take over the project. since its already approved and has everything set, this can start very quickly.
     
     
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two different projects. chinatown gateway is already underway (6 story mixed use on broadway and ceasar chavez, and Blossom just selected Forest City to take over the project. since its already approved and has everything set, this can start very quickly.
Oh okay. It's strange, for some reason I never included it in the compilation...

No matter, i'll add it right now.
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New adaptive reuse downtown. I guess, now that most of the big buildings have been taken, it's time for the small ones to get their due.



This is the building. It's nice that the buildings on Broadway are starting to get changed. Broadway needs all the help it can get. I hope they get rid of the ugly 50s 'modernization'. If they can't do that for structural reasons, then I hope they at least re-clad it in something high-quality. Anyways, it's always good when new condos/apartments come downtown.
     
     
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New adaptive reuse downtown. I guess, now that most of the big buildings have been taken, it's time for the small ones to get their due.

Citywatch should be happy about this
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