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Originally Posted by Illithid Dude
Sure, it has a very poor core, but the suburbs of Detroit are actually quite wealthy. Bloomfield Hills, for example, is just as wealthy as any wealthy neighborhood in L.A.
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technically & governmentally my description still stands. Unlike LA, detroit----meaning that which is within city limits & controlled by the local govt----never annexed lots of land in surroundings areas, so it's been left isolated. I'm also very aware of the burbs of that or any other city, inc bloomfield hills, which is 20 miles away from dt detroit. so although Bloomfield is to detroit what bev hills is to dtla, the distance between the 2 areas in michigan is greater than the distance between the 2 areas in calif. So in that regard, there is even more of a symbolic, but also logistical, gulf between the wealth & poverty in metro detroit.
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The income per capita in Detroit is 31.3% less than the Michigan average and 34.5% less than the national average. The median household income in Detroit is 30.8% less than the Michigan average and 36.2% less than the national average.
The poverty level in Detroit is 157.4% greater than the Michigan average and 112.1% greater than the national average.
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plus I recall a particular forumer---who shall go unnamed----several months ago patting on the head one of the most notorious, obnoxious trolls at ssp---who shall also go unnamed. As far as I'm concerned, from that moment onward, the ability of the forumer in question to judge any & every other forumer at ssp became a joke.
A distinct Perch above downtown L.A.
Stylish relaxation without the airs is on the menu at the new rooftop restaurant-bar on Hill Street.
Lawrence K. Ho, Los Angeles Times
By Steven Armstrong, Special to the Los Angeles Times
August 12, 2011
Perch is a new rooftop bar and restaurant that's making downtown L.A. rethink the way it does night life. Unlike downtown's most famous rooftop bar — the ostentatious poolside lounge crowning the Standard Hotel — Perch doesn't have a pool or red Astroturf or gaggles of scantily clad partiers. It doesn't have a million-dollar lighting system or a make-believe speak-easy either.
What Perch does have is a fine cocktail program, an impressive selection of French wines and spirits, a French-inspired dinner menu, panoramic views, live music and a palpable lack of pretension. This is a place where you go to relax in style — either inside on a plush blue sofa, or outside on a vintage, powder-coated, wrought-iron patio chair — sipping a Maverick & Goose (gin, lemon, simple syrup, Lillet and muddled gooseberries), sucking on a succulent frog leg and watching the sun set over Pershing Square.
It's a place where downtown's business community, its nocturnal visitors and its residents coexist, where the atmosphere is casual and the dress code is free — with one exception.
"No Ed Hardy," Perch co-creator Coly Den Haan says with a smile, referring to the gaudy tattoo-inspired T-shirts created by Christian Audigier.
Perch is the second venture for Den Haan and business partner Rachel Thomas — their first project since opening the Must on 5th Street in late 2008.
...Meanwhile, local real estate developer and property owner Jeffrey Fish was finishing a massive retrofit and construction project that he'd undertaken at the Pershing Square building on Hill Street — a project that culminated with an unprecedented structural addition that transformed the historic 13-story building into 16 stories. By the time major construction drew to a close, Fish might not have been entirely sure what he wanted the new space to be, but he knew exactly what he didn't want it to be.
"I didn't want it to be a club, and I didn't want it to be some pretentious place that's hip for a second," Fish said. "I wanted it to be a downtown institution."
Now that Haan and Thomas are involved, it seems poised to become just that. "[Fish] gave us a clean slate to work with," Den Haan said. "We saw what downtown was lacking, and we thought it would be cool to bastardize French food and make it approachable."
Den Haan and Thomas also plan to make dinner at Perch more economically accessible by adding a number of affordable menu items. And in the coming weeks, Den Haan — who oversees the food and beverage programs — plans to expand and simplify the cocktail program. "We love the cocktail revolution," Den Haan said. "But we want to go back to three-ingredient, traditional cocktails."
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Yes there are "400 other square miles" of LA filled with bland suburbs, bland strip malls, and even more bland freeways that we should totally invest in!!! 
Let's just continue to ignore the most substantial part of the City of LA where the history is the richest and the built environment is the most urban and potentially the most environmentally green because it's the most walkable and least dependent on oil-dependent automobiles!! Let's focus on "drought tolerant" landscaping so we can save water and be green, but let's continue to support the bland suburban existence that squanders oil like there's no tomorrow! 
with the nearby site where a 70 or 80 story condo tower was going to rise, so I don't think the hood needs another letdown.
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