Thanks for the bar suggestion guys. We ended up at Dublins and it was perfect. Doesnt matter where you sit, theres a TV closer to your face then your living room at home....exactly what I wanted.
Also, the atmosphere was great, the staff was extremely friendly (and accommodating, we had a 19 year old in our group) and every single TV had the game on.
Anyway, we went to Staples center after and the walk there was good, lots of people, even those not going to the concert (walking the other way). LA Live was very active, and the sidewalks there were packed. Crossing the street felt like manhattan with such large groups of people going in different directions.
Leaving the cocnert at 11pm was also great. The amount of light and color was fantastic. Really blows away people's impression of "downtown is dead after 4pm" that used to exist.
Now, not all was good.
Cons:
We were able to park 2 blocks away for $5 in a 6 story parking garage that was less than 50% full. On a Saturday night. On the night of a sold out staples center event and bars bursting with gold cup fans.
Why is that a con? It shows there's a huge excess of parking supply. Empty spaces are good for no one. They jack up the price of buildings and kill the street (with all the curb cut entrances).
Con 2:
Because left turn are permissive (no red arrow), people line up in the intersection to turn left, and many can only do so after the red light. Because the intersection is so wide, multiple cars line up. So when we got the pedestrian walk light, 6 cars still came zooming past to make left turns, and because it's a one way street, they were going for every lane. Very dangerous. Pedestrian walk light should me "no conflict" not "watch the hell out for speeding cars".
On a different intersection, the countdown reached zero....and then 15 seconds passed before the cars got red. That's one way to train people to disrespect the signals. Remember, the laws say to treat broken traffic signals as stop signs. And if as a pedestrian you dont see walk in any direction for 15+ seconds, it appears to be broken.
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Originally Posted by LAofAnaheim
Name a single city over 1,000,000 residents that has NO traffic? I'm jet talking reality and reasonableness. If you want to be in a place of no traffic, I'd recommend you move to Des Moines, Bismarck, Duluth, Santa Fe, etc....
LA needs more rail alternatives like NY, Chicago, London, Paris etc.... We've already achieved the same traffic levels as those cities....
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Venice?