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Old Posted Jun 21, 2011, 10:58 PM
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Hey if anyone wants to consider the Highrise vs. Lowrise discussion continue it at the thread I just made.

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Old Posted Jun 22, 2011, 12:32 AM
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Well theres some news today


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Port in talks on huge WTC retailing deal
Opens discussions with Westfield, which successfully ran retailing at original trade center; seeks plan for 360,000 square feet of shop and restaurant space that will be built.

In the last few weeks, the Port Authority of New York & New Jersey has started negotiations with The Westfield Group to try to finalize an agreement reached in 2008 to jointly develop the retail space at the World Trade Center site, sources close to the discussions said.
These sources said the Port wants to know by mid-fall if it can seal a deal with Westfield. That would give the agency enough time to either find another partner or move forward by itself in developing a plan for the approximately 360,000 square feet of retail space that will be initially built at the site. Roughly 200,000 square feet of that space is in the Calatrava transit hub, which is slated to open in 2014.
In 2008, the Port Authority and Westfield signed a letter of intent whereby the Port agreed to provide approximately $825 million toward the $1.45 billion project, with Westfield providing the other $625 million. However, that deal was based on projections of about 488,000 square feet of retail space. That total has shrunk, in part because there are no immediate plans to build one of Larry Silverstein's three towers.
These sources said the two parties were discussing various economic issues but declined to be specific. A spokesman for the Port Authority declined to comment, and a spokeswoman for Australia-based Westfield didn't return a call. Westfield has interests in and operates one of the world's largest shopping center portfolios valued in excess of $58 billion with 119 properties in Australia, New Zealand, the United States and the United Kingdom.
Real estate experts said it made sense for the Port to focus on the retail portion of the site now that commercial tenant interest in the buildings is growing. Last month, the Port signed a 1 million-square-foot deal with Cond´ Nast for 1 World Trade Center. Meanwhile, published reports said Swiss financial giant UBS was considering moving into one of Mr. Silverstein's towers.
Additionally, the Port doesn't want to lose any significant retail tenants to its neighbor across West Street, the World Financial Center. There, owner Brookfield Office Properties plans a $250 million renovation of the retail space, which is slated to begin in October and run through 2013.
Prior to Sept. 11, 2001, Westfield had net leased the World Trade Center retail components, one of the highest-grossing shopping areas in the nation, which consisted of 427,000 square feet. In December 2003, to accelerate the rebuilding at the World Trade Center site, the Port acquired the retail net lease from Westfield.

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[QUOTE]WTC master planner takes top award
Eight years after his design was chosen to guide the rebuilding at Ground Zero and less than three months from the tenth anniversary of 9/11, Daniel Libeskind receives honor.

The author of the design road map for rebuilding the World Trade Center site will receive the highest honor bestowed by the New York chapter of the American Institute of Architects Tuesday evening.
Daniel Libeskind, who became an overnight celebrity in the city in 2003 when his proposal for the World Trade Center site, dubbed “Memory Foundations,” was chosen by officials to be the master plan for the rebuilding, will receive the 2011 Medal of Honor at the institute chapter's annual meeting at the Center for Architecture on LaGuardia Place offices.
“We have great respect for his work,” said Rick Bell, executive director of the chapter. “And that's not just because of what's happening at the World Trade Center Site.”
Mr. Libeskind, who has also worked on projects ranging from the Jewish Museum in Berlin to the Denver Art Museum, received his architectural degree from the Cooper Union in the East Village in 1970. He currently lives with his wife in lower Manhattan, where his firm Studio Daniel Libeskind is based at 2 Rector St.
"To receive an award from this talented and accomplished group of architects is a particularly meaningful honor for me," Mr. Libeskind said. "It is always a compliment to be recognized by your peers."
While Mr. Libeskind penned the initial plan for the entire site's rebuilding, the individual buildings have all been designed by others. However, the American Institute of Architects still feels his vision shines through.
“It may not look exactly like the renderings, but the spirit is exactly the same,” Mr. Bell said of the World Trade Center site design, praising the mixed-use development and the integration of public plazas and office space.
The AIANY, which was founded in 1857, is the oldest and largest chapter in the AIA, with more than 5,000 members ranging from practicing architects and other professionals, to students and members of the public interested in architecture and design.
Since 1917, the chapter has awarded is Medal of Honor to a member or firm for their “distinguished work and high professional standing.” Among the earlier recipients are David Childs, who designed 7 World Trade Center and the Time Warner Center, and Louis Skidmore, co-founder of the architecture firm Skidmore Owings and Merrill.
Along with Mr. Libeskind, the New York chapter will also present awards to other members of the architecture community, including Frank J. Sciame Jr., the chief executive of Manhattan-based Sciame Construction, and Frederic Schwartz, a renowned architect who recently designed the Staten Island Ferry Terminal.
“Here's our chance, after a bunch years, to provide an accolade to where we felt it has been deserved,” Mr. Bell said, adding that it was “excellent timing” that the award was being given to Mr. Libeskind in the same year as the tenth anniversary of 9/11. “It could have been conferred next year or last, the award would still be as relevant and deserved.”[/QUOTE]
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Old Posted Jun 22, 2011, 1:21 AM
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The Floors

Nobody has answered my question. Which floor will they be on by the Fourth of July?
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Old Posted Jun 22, 2011, 3:38 AM
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Nobody has answered my question. Which floor will they be on by the Fourth of July?
considering there's an elevation every two weeks (or somewhere around that), I'd go for floor 72.
I still haven't had my question answered. Why all the missing glass on the front?
     
     
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Old Posted Jun 22, 2011, 11:54 AM
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Isn't there any other mall operator out there besides Westfield? The Westfield malls in Connecticut are all uniformly mediocre and rundown looking.
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Old Posted Jun 22, 2011, 12:09 PM
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Liebeskind getting a Medal of Honor? I think I'm gonna vomit
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Old Posted Jun 22, 2011, 12:13 PM
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Thank you very much for this wonderful photo, newhannibal!

Fantastic picture! WTC growing up, and up...

Congratulations and greetings from Madrid, Spain!
     
     
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Liebeskind getting a Medal of Honor? I think I'm gonna vomit
Dude, it's not the Medal of Honor. It's an award from a professional organization.

Not that I would expect you to be able to differentiate the two....
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I thought he was ousted for Childs and Foster, or what ever their names are. Well at least that God Awful farce, of what appeared to be physically impossible structures to construct, was completely overidden, and rejected for what is going up now. How is this 🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵 getting credit, instead of the two names mentioned up above?
     
     
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The plan is still his. He came up with the memorial/transit hub/office tower locations and is responsible for the interconnectedness of all of the towers. If you haven't noticed it follows similar massing as Libeskind's original plan, albeit the designs of the buildings have been completed by different architects.
     
     
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Old Posted Jun 22, 2011, 5:07 PM
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I thought he was ousted for Childs and Foster, or what ever their names are. Well at least that God Awful farce, of what appeared to be physically impossible structures to construct, was completely overidden, and rejected for what is going up now. How is this 🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵 getting credit, instead of the two names mentioned up above?
I completely agree with you. He has done nothing other than making a terrible memorial and even more terrible buildings. Luckily for the whole world, his buildings were rejected and instead beautifull buildings, made by other architects, are being built there. Dave Childs, Norm Foster and Roger Harbour should get a Medal of Honor because their buildings are true masterpieces. In my opinion Liebeskind is one of the worst architects in the world.
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^^^Why do you think he's one of the worst, because he had plans for a 1000 ft freedom tower?, (topped by windmills). He's got some very good stuff IMO, and I'd still love for his One Madison Ave to be built, or his other condo project in L.A. If there's anyone to hate its Gene Kaufman.
     
     
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considering there's an elevation every two weeks (or somewhere around that), I'd go for floor 72.
I still haven't had my question answered. Why all the missing glass on the front?
Do you mean the base, right above the base, or on the newest row of windows? If you mean the base, it's because it will have different glass from the rest. If you mean right above the base, it's so the rigging for putting the base up can be hung. If you mean on the newest row, it's just the order they're putting the panes in. They have not been going around the building in a perfect spiral by any means. It will all be filled in pretty soon.
     
     
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To clarify, Libeskind is receiving the Medal of Honor from the American Institute of Architects (AIA), not the Medal of Honor awarded to members of the US Military by the president. There's a pretty major distinction there.

And no word yet on whether Libeskind's award will include a copy of Medal of Honor for Playstation or XBox.
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Good for Libeskind. Well earned. Congrats to him!

His original plan was awesome. Cohesive, elegant, forward thinking ecologically and most importantly ...inspiring. It's just a shame that reality had to water down his vision so much.


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To clarify, Libeskind is receiving the Medal of Honor from the American Institute of Architects (AIA), not the Medal of Honor awarded to members of the US Military by the president. There's a pretty major distinction there.

And no word yet on whether Libeskind's award will include a copy of Medal of Honor for Playstation or XBox.
This whole Medal of Honor confusion has been very entertaining to read. I am by no means a fan of Libeskind, but he is still the masterplan architect of the WTC. Also, he has done a number of museums and such that is what is probably getting him this award in the first place.
     
     
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Off topic, I know, but AGAIN I must profess my complete adoration for the WFC complex and how incredible the buildings are, and how they work so well together. Simply stunning. Goldman Sachs is also growing on me. Many people are right when they say the Jersey side will have the best view of lower Manhattan.
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Of course. He's in the same ranking as Minoru Yamasaki was when he built the original World Trade Center back in 1967-1973, and believe it or not even Minoru Yamasaki got a Medal of Honor from AIA back in that time too.
     
     
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