YVR Airport & Sea Island Developments Discussion

[trofirhen]

Originally Posted by SpongeG

is AirBC still around? its been so long since i flew within BC

Looking at the airline list at YVR Wikipedia, it is not among them.

[Bigtime]

Didn't AirBC become part of Jazz many years ago?

[Denscity]

Originally Posted by whatnext

Air Canada is rebranding all of its regional flying as Air Canada Express, so it will be bye bye to the Jazz livery.

http://business.financialpost.com/2011/04/26/air-canada-launches-new-regional-brand/

That means we'll be seeing the newly branded planes here in Castlegar (YCG).

[deasine]

There's a few negative discussion over at FlyerTalk with regards to the new brand but I love it. Not sure if "Express" was the best name as it seems to be overused amongst many of the North American airlines, as indicated above, but I definitely thought there was too much differentiation between Air Canada Jazz and Air Canada.

The new branding for the regional routes will allow for less confusion when Air Canada brings out their LCC to compete against Air Transat and WestJet.

[SpongeG]

New Vancouver airport runway rules could cost millions

YVR airport faces years of construction under proposed federal policy

By Matthew Robinson and Ian MacLeod, Vancouver Sun May 12, 2011 9:06 PM

Transport Canada is drafting regulations that could cost Vancouver International Airport tens of millions of dollars and commit the airport authority to years of construction.

Postmedia News has learned that the policy, if approved, would require major Canadian airports to meet minimum international standards for emergency stopping distances. YVR does not now meet those standards and would be forced to expand existing runway strips.

“Even a simple runway extension takes a great deal of planning and years of construction activity,” Brett Patterson, YVR’s director of airside operations, told The Vancouver Sun last summer following federal discussion of a rule change.

Major runways at Canada’s airports require a graded, unobstructed buffer zone or “runway strip” extending 60 metres past the runway’s end for last-ditch emergency stopping.

In response to a 2005 Air France crash at Toronto’s Pearson International Airport, where an airliner barrelled off a rain-slick runway and caught fire, a senior Transport Canada official says the department wants to increase that requirement to at least 150 metres of emergency stopping space.

The proposed move follows a warning last year from the Transportation Safety Board that runway “excursions” and other landing safety issues pose one of the country’s greatest transportation risks and need urgent government and industry action.

The rate of overruns per million landings by large transport aircraft in Canada is almost twice the world average, and three times that of the United States. The figure jumps to four times the global average when the runway is wet.

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Read more: http://www.vancouversun.com/Vancouver+ai...illions/4775635/story.html#ixzz1MCo9Rxh6

[s211]

Originally Posted by SpongeG

The rate of overruns per million landings by large transport aircraft in Canada is almost twice the world average, and three times that of the United States. The figure jumps to four times the global average when the runway is wet.

In Vancouver, that would only be on days that end in the letter "y", so I don't see what all the fuss is about.

[jlousa]

The extension was already planned. The Sun has a picture of what the changes would require, all easily obtained.

[Yume-sama]

New Vancouver airport runway rules could cost millions

Really? What kind of headline is that ? Did they think it could be done for a slim jim and a few sticks of gum?

[Millennium2002]

A quick glance in Google Maps reveals several possible "shortcomings" in Canadian airports compared to their US counterparts, including lack of paved shoulders, sharp corners in shoulder markings rather than smooth curves, and of course the aforementioned lack of runway overrun zone. This applies to Canada in general... more like a standards failure. =O

[SpongeG]

YVR's total economic impact pegged at $11.7 billion: report


By Brian Morton, Vancouver Sun May 13, 2011

Vancouver International Airport (YVR) provided more than 23,600 jobs and $1 billion in wages, for a direct impact of $1.9 billion on Canada's GDP in 2010, according to a report by the Vancouver Airport Authority.

The report also stated that in total, the airport generates nearly $12 billion annually.

“In addition to the employment impacts of operations at YVR, there are also broader measures of economic contribution,” the report said. “The two most common are economic output and GDP.

“The direct employment attributable to operations at YVR generates $1.9 billion in direct GDP.

“Taking into consideration all multiplier effects (direct, indirect and induced effects), operations at YVR are estimated to generate up to $5.3 billion in GDP and up to $11.7 billion in economic output economy-wide.

Airport authority chair Mary Jordan said the results bode well for YVR's future.

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Read more: http://www.vancouversun.com/total+econom...+report/4780786/story.html#ixzz1MMT2RbGe

[Hot Rod]

http://www.yvr.ca/en/Airmail-articles/2011-05-Airmail/China-Southern.aspx

from YVR-Airmail May Edition.

Vancouver International Airport will offer Canada’s first and only nonstop flight to China’s most populous province, Guangdong, next month after welcoming China Southern Airlines as the 68th carrier serving YVR.

The new thrice-weekly service to the city of Guangzhou begins June 15 and will offer not only increased options for passengers, but greater opportunities for business and for tourism – particularly given Canada’s recent Approved Destination Status from China. The service also supports British Columbia’s Pacific Gateway strategy, which targets a 75 per cent increase in the number of passengers travelling through YVR and a doubling of air cargo by 2010.

China Southern will use 777-200ER with 282 passengers per flight.

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China Southern Bulletin (Feb 2011)

http://www.csair.com/en/ad/20110216/index.html

[trofirhen]

Originally Posted by SpongeG

YVR's total economic impact pegged at $11.7 billion: report


By Brian Morton, Vancouver Sun May 13, 2011

Vancouver International Airport (YVR) provided more than 23,600 jobs and $1 billion in wages, for a direct impact of $1.9 billion on Canada's GDP in 2010, according to a report by the Vancouver Airport Authority.

The report also stated that in total, the airport generates nearly $12 billion annually.

“In addition to the employment impacts of operations at YVR, there are also broader measures of economic contribution,” the report said. “The two most common are economic output and GDP.

“The direct employment attributable to operations at YVR generates $1.9 billion in direct GDP.

“Taking into consideration all multiplier effects (direct, indirect and induced effects), operations at YVR are estimated to generate up to $5.3 billion in GDP and up to $11.7 billion in economic output economy-wide.

Airport authority chair Mary Jordan said the results bode well for YVR's future.

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Read more: http://www.vancouversun.com/total+econom...+report/4780786/story.html#ixzz1MMT2RbGe

Interesting. Also about how Larry Berg wants to increase BC "connectivity around the globe." Keep that thought in mind, and we'll be one important airport. It's important IMHO to keep ahead of Seattle in that regard.

[SpongeG]

my friends are going to san fran in a couple weeks they are flying out of seattle and saving over $400

[trofirhen]

Originally Posted by SpongeG

my friends are going to san fran in a couple weeks they are flying out of seattle and saving over $400

That, of course, is a US DOMESTIC flight, and therein may lie the difference. I just don't want to see YVR overshadowed by Sea-Tac on the international flight sector.

[Gordon]

both AC & Ws charge 400 according to Expedia
Seattle flights range between 264 & $400

[whatnext]

If anyone's flying Air Canada next week, be aware the customer service agents (ticketing, checked bagage, gates etc) have served 72 hour strike notice. Air Canada says they will run things as normal, but if you can, I'd suggest sticking to carry-on luggage!
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on...ke-goes-ahead-air-canada/article2057204/

[sacrifice333]

Originally Posted by whatnext

If anyone's flying Air Canada next week, be aware the customer service agents (ticketing, checked bagage, gates etc) have served 72 hour strike notice. Air Canada says they will run things as normal, but if you can, I'd suggest sticking to carry-on luggage!
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on...ke-goes-ahead-air-canada/article2057204/

Suggestions on how to travel with only carry-on from my wife... Packing 103

Best of luck everyone.

p.s. I have to travel for business a few times per year and need to bring one or two suits with me. I take them INSIDE my carry-on by way of first placing them in a suit bag, then folding them thrice in order to insert them into the carry-on. It's the last thing into my bag and the first thing out so wrinkles aren't normally a problem. If they are... a humid bathroom can normally do the trick.

[Yume-sama]

I'm flying AC twice next week They best not go on strike Wonder how many hours early I should show up if they do~

Sheesh, as if going to America wasn't inconvenient enough already.

[sacrifice333]

If you're flying carry-on and check-in online, why would you have to go any earlier?

CATSAs not striking, nor is US Customs and Border Protection!

[Hot Rod]

any chance that Air Canada will match the YVR-CAN route that China Southern started on June 15?

any chance that Air Canada will take advantage and add the YVR-KIX route BACK!!!!???