New Downtown Calgary Arena - Page 30

CorporateWhore · #**581** Posted **May 20, 2011, 5:57 PM**

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Originally Posted by 93JC

True. I think there are still plenty of uses for the Saddledome beyond Calgary Flames hockey. Vancouver's Pacific Coliseum is still around 15 years after the Canucks moved to GM Place for example.

I have my doubts if it can be sustainable for the long term, but hey, if the Dome can find a use to help it stay around, more power to it!

kw5150 · #**582** Posted **May 20, 2011, 6:05 PM**

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Originally Posted by CorporateWhore

Feel free to put up every silly idea you have, but don't get mad if people respond in kind. This isn't kindergarden, don't expect stickers handed out for creativity.

Im not mad, I just think it is halarious how close minded and complacent people are in Calgary. Dont be scared to be shot down once in a while.

Winnipeg is even doing things that we wouldn't even dream of right now. Give your head a shake.

I bet you would have shot down this idea as well. It is a museum AND residential AND office complex in Minneapolis built from an old pilsbury factory.
Heaven forbid! It must have costed a buck or two more than a square box.

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Calgarian · #**583** Posted **May 20, 2011, 6:16 PM**

It's a lot easier to convert an industrial use than a stadium. I challenge you to find examples of an enclosed stadium / arena that has been converted.

CorporateWhore · #**584** Posted **May 20, 2011, 6:16 PM**

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Originally Posted by kw5150

Im not mad, I just think it is halarious how close minded and complacent people are in Calgary. Dont be scared to be shot down once in a while.

Winnipeg is even doing things that we wouldn't even dream of right now. Give your head a shake.

I bet you would have shot down this idea as well. It is a museum AND residential AND office complex in Minneapolis built from an old pilsbury factory.

You seriously need to cut the drama-queen act, you remind me of angsty college kids who instantly think they have everyone else figured out. Trust me, the world is not out to squash your genius.

I do like how I'm some sort of square box pusher now though. I guess all the years on this board calling for more progressive designs in this city was just a ruse. Silly me.

freeweed · #**585** Posted **May 20, 2011, 6:35 PM**

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Originally Posted by CorporateWhore

You seriously need to cut the drama-queen act, you remind me of angsty college kids who instantly think they have everyone else figured out. Trust me, the world is not out to squash your genius.

Admit it, you're just a sheep.

MichaelS · #**586** Posted **May 20, 2011, 6:43 PM**

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Originally Posted by kw5150

Im not mad, I just think it is halarious how close minded and complacent people are in Calgary. Dont be scared to be shot down once in a while.

Winnipeg is even doing things that we wouldn't even dream of right now. Give your head a shake.

I bet you would have shot down this idea as well. It is a museum AND residential AND office complex in Minneapolis built from an old pilsbury factory.
Heaven forbid! It must have costed a buck or two more than a square box.

Can you give some examples of what Winnipeg is doing that we wouldn't dream of?

CorporateWhore · #**587** Posted **May 20, 2011, 6:48 PM**

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Originally Posted by freeweed

Admit it, you're just a sheep.

Take that baaaaaack.

kw5150 · #**588** Posted **May 20, 2011, 6:55 PM**

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Originally Posted by MichaelS

Can you give some examples of what Winnipeg is doing that we wouldn't dream of?

do you really want to do this?

kw5150 · #**589** Posted **May 20, 2011, 7:01 PM**

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Originally Posted by techfreak

I hate how the new addition of the Children's Museum blocks the view of the Riel Esplanade

The forks area redevelopment including the New Museum.

kw5150 · #**590** Posted **May 20, 2011, 7:06 PM**

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CorporateWhore · #**591** Posted **May 20, 2011, 7:07 PM**

Despite the dramatics, KW does have a point about Winnipeg being a good inspiration point for Calgary. They don't get many projects, but what they do get, they spend their time making right. The quality of the architecture in that city is pretty impressive, and I would say generally quite a bit higher than Alberta. It's a hidden gem in Canada.

kw5150 · #**592** Posted **May 20, 2011, 7:08 PM**

I bet this is expensive.......

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new windows are starting to apear in the royal bank building

also i noticed piles of construction fece laying on the sidewalk of king and mcdermot andone know whats up there?

polishavenger · #**593** Posted **May 20, 2011, 7:56 PM**

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Originally Posted by CorporateWhore

Despite the dramatics, KW does have a point about Winnipeg being a good inspiration point for Calgary. They don't get many projects, but what they do get, they spend their time making right. The quality of the architecture in that city is pretty impressive, and I would say generally quite a bit higher than Alberta. It's a hidden gem in Canada.

Ive always said that if Winnipeg could get its act together and spur some decent economic growth (they are working hard on doing it, I know), then they inner city has some great bones to work with. If their exchange district could fill in the many gaps it currently has and revive itself with more residential developement, it would be a pretty sweet place to be.

freeweed · #**594** Posted **May 20, 2011, 8:11 PM**

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Originally Posted by kw5150

I bet this is expensive.......

It sure is, and that building also sat vacant and derelict for decades. There was a small bit of use in the early 90s (the old elevator was scary as all hell) but as far as I know it's been empty beyond that since the 80s, maybe the 70s.

Not exactly something to aspire to. Calgary simply doesn't have the inventory of old buildings to reno like Winnipeg does.

Calgarian · #**595** Posted **May 20, 2011, 8:42 PM**

Winnipeg definitely does build things very nice, but Calgary is definitely moving in the right direction (Cantos, Riverwalk, new office buildings etc.).

Either way, this thread is about a new arena, and what possible uses there are for the Dome once it's replaced. KW, you have some interesting ideas and it's good that you are thinking outside the box, it's just some of your ideas are very unrealistic.

kw5150 · #**596** Posted **May 20, 2011, 8:59 PM**

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Originally Posted by Calgarian

Winnipeg definitely does build things very nice, but Calgary is definitely moving in the right direction (Cantos, Riverwalk, new office buildings etc.).

Either way, this thread is about a new arena, and what possible uses there are for the Dome once it's replaced. KW, you have some interesting ideas and it's good that you are thinking outside the box, it's just some of your ideas are very unrealistic.

Fine, I will limit my unrealistic ideas to Monday Wednesday and friday......speaking of friday.......

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craner · #**597** Posted **May 20, 2011, 9:02 PM**

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Originally Posted by kw5150

The forks area redevelopment including the New Museum.

Amazing what $100 mil of federal tax dollars will build.

jsbertram · #**598** Posted **May 21, 2011, 8:25 AM**

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Originally Posted by freeweed

It sure is, and that building also sat vacant and derelict for decades. There was a small bit of use in the early 90s (the old elevator was scary as all hell) but as far as I know it's been empty beyond that since the 80s, maybe the 70s.

Not exactly something to aspire to. Calgary simply doesn't have the inventory of old buildings to reno like Winnipeg does.

The reason Calgary doesn't have the inventory of old buildings downtown to reno like 'peg does is because at the time they were shuttering their old empty buildings, Calgary was knocking old buildings over for stuff like TD Square, City Hall, Glenbow, Olympic Plaza, Gulf Canada Square, Bow Valley Square, Esso Plaza (just to rattle off a few 70s and 80 downtown big-block projects).

On the other hand, somehow Inglewood was mostly ignored until the last decade, so many of their pre-WW1 buildings are being restored instead of being demolished and replaced with something 'shinier and prettier'.

Bassic Lab · #**599** Posted **May 21, 2011, 7:27 PM**

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Originally Posted by CorporateWhore

I have my doubts if it can be sustainable for the long term, but hey, if the Dome can find a use to help it stay around, more power to it!

I would think that the city/Stampede could find a number of events that would be able to pay the bills for the Saddledome. The Flames might not like it because some of those events, namely certain concerts, would cut into the margins they could charge with a monopoly on arena space.

As it is, with a single arena and three sports tenants, there are a number of events that we just cannot hold. With two arenas we could host the Memorial Cup and international tournaments. Sure we are hosting the 2012 World Juniors but we are sharing that honour with Edmonton. We simply don't have the capacity to do it on our own whereas cities like Halifax and Saskatoon are capable of making independent bids.

Could the Saddledome even accept more concerts if the acts wanted to play here and weren't concerned about the roof? I imagine there would be a real concern over scheduling as it is if the Flames, Hitmen, and Roughnecks all had long playoff runs in a single year.

suburb · #**600** Posted **May 21, 2011, 7:31 PM**

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Originally Posted by craner

Amazing what $100 mil of federal tax dollars will build.

It is a LOT more than $100M from the feds - there is an additional $22M per year for operations - as this thing is a money sink in a major way. So over a couple decades, that's over half a billion! And that doesn't even count the provincial and municipal contributions / concessions.