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Old Posted Mar 25, 2011, 3:03 PM
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I made it to the Idea Factory last night and met some wonderful people with great ideas for downtown. Some already live downtown or have bought homes near it lately. And you know, we all noticed that this seems a lot different and more exciting than all of the development discussions of the past.

The next Idea Factory will be two weeks from now on a bus tour to Atlanta to visit some neighborhoods near downtown where ideas that worked will be discussed and possibly incorporated into old and new neighborhood plans around downtown Montgomery. I forgot the exact date but the cost is $40 for anyone that wants to go.

BTW, I talked to Chad and gave him some ideas to write down. He has some cool ideas for the city himself. It's kinda' hard to imagine that our old forum buddy is now the head of the Development Department for the city of Montgomery.
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Beers provided or BYOB?

lol. I'm not quite sure, but if it's anything like the meeting there may be plenty to go around.
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That gap looks like it's left there for the truncated dome bricks that go on the ramps for the blind.
Actually, this looks like there is going to be some paving overlay. The gap between the edge of pavement and front of curb is for pavement widening. These existing lanes must not be the typical 12' lanes.
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Actually, this looks like there is going to be some paving overlay. The gap between the edge of pavement and front of curb is for pavement widening. These existing lanes must not be the typical 12' lanes.
Gap was probably the wrong descriptive word for me to use at what I was referring too. I was looking at the void of concrete where the telephone poll is protruding, that's probably reserved for the truncated dome pavers. I didn't even notice in the gap of missing asphalt along the curb edge.
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Old Posted Mar 28, 2011, 8:11 PM
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I maybe the last person who follows this board to read these articles. But the MBJ did three good articles with the Major and Deputy Major about projects happening in Montgomery.


CREATING A PLACE WITH ENERGY
Montgomery Business Journal • March 2011






BUILDING MOMENTUM

PROJECTS ON THE MOVE

SHOW ME THE MONEY
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I maybe the last person who follows this board to read these articles. But the MBJ did three good articles with the Major and Deputy Major about projects happening in Montgomery.


CREATING A PLACE WITH ENERGY
Montgomery Business Journal • March 2011






BUILDING MOMENTUM

PROJECTS ON THE MOVE

SHOW ME THE MONEY
Thanks for the post. I always forget to read the Journal.
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The next Idea Factory will be two weeks from now on a bus tour to Atlanta to visit some neighborhoods near downtown where ideas that worked will be discussed and possibly incorporated into old and new neighborhood plans around downtown Montgomery. I forgot the exact date but the cost is $40 for anyone that wants to go.
Not sure I can make it. Also for those that visit Atlanta frequently, checkout Old 4th Ward area. Its before Little 5 Points. Old 4th Ward won't be on the bus tour but its worth walking around next time you visit. It's in the early stages of redevelopment so you will see an area in process. Can give some good ideas for Montgomery. Eat at Jacks Pizza and Wings too.
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I was looking at the void of concrete where the telephone poll is protruding, that's probably reserved for the truncated dome pavers.
As Ed McMahon would say, "You are CORRECT, sir!"



I love reading MBJ each month where you read a lot of interesting tidbits that you probably would never hear of or read in the traditional news outlets. Like, at one time in the past, David Bronner wanted to transform Dexter Avenue into shoppes with outlet stores and restaurants, but someone (at Aronov) talked him out of it...


BTW here's the link. Cool stuff.

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Not sure I can make it. Also for those that visit Atlanta frequently, checkout Old 4th Ward area. Its before Little 5 Points. Old 4th Ward won't be on the bus tour but its worth walking around next time you visit. It's in the early stages of redevelopment so you will see an area in process. Can give some good ideas for Montgomery. Eat at Jacks Pizza and Wings too.
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courtesy of Tim Lennox's blog

couple of pics from the City Auditorium:



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couple of pics from the City Auditorium:



Ouch! Those seats don't look any more comfortable than the seats in the current City Council Chamber. But I am anxious to see refurbishment take place in this historic auditorium...
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I think a development similar to one of these would be great on Maxwell Boulevard across from Overlook park. It would make a great lead-in to the Renaissance Hotel.







I was on the OK City development page and that's a city Montgomery city officals should take a trip to see. They have come a long way since the bombing in 1996 and Montgomery has come a long way since that bombing that was Emory Folmar. There developement page has alot of the things they have going on listed along with pictures.

Someone on this page once recommended taking a look at Greenville, SC and I did. They are also a city Montgomery should take a trip to see (I say that because of the Austin trip, which I have no problem with). That’s a happening city that I think Montgomery can take a lot from.
But don’t read me wrong, I think the Strange administration is doing a great job and that's coming from a life long Democrat.

Here’s the link to the OKC development page
Click here.


And also Greenville, SC has this web page called GreenvilleHD.com and it’s great. Make sure to take a look at the Dining section. It spotlights some of the restaurants they have downtown.
Click here.

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I was talking about this with a buddy of mine the other day (in the Alley Deli...).

I don't want anymore national brands here.... I want local brands to go national. You don't get rich working for somebody else (IPOs excepted), you don't grow your town by having another franchise show up in a box.

Slowly becoming a curmudgeon.
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I was talking about this with a buddy of mine the other day (in the Alley Deli...).

I don't want anymore national brands here.... I want local brands to go national. You don't get rich working for somebody else (IPOs excepted), you don't grow your town by having another franchise show up in a box.

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I completely agree. I am done supporting corporations, or 'chains', that do not care about the quality of their product or to who they are providing it. I've made a commitment to myself to begin patronizing Montgomery's unique small businesses as much as possible. Despite the leaps and bounds this city has made in the last decade there is still very little character. I completely believe that this is directly associated with all the large franchises we have here. Montgomery can't be unique because we have mostly the same things our neighboring cities have.

I'd also like to add Nashville into the mix of cities Montgomery should try to emulate. I spent a fair amount of time on Broadway in downtown Nashville over the weekend and it was great. If any of you are familiar with the area I am talking about, could you imagine lower Dexter Ave in much the same way? How great would that be?
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I'd also like to add Nashville into the mix of cities Montgomery should try to emulate. I spent a fair amount of time on Broadway in downtown Nashville over the weekend and it was great. If any of you are familiar with the area I am talking about, could you imagine lower Dexter Ave in much the same way? How great would that be?
I've been to Nashville a few times. I enjoy Broadway. Despite all the undeveloped and underdeveloped areas of town that we can look to other cities to model after, Birmingham is lacking quite a bit too. There is nothing that I've seen that even compares to Nashville's Broadway or Printer's Ally in the Ham. It's somewhat comparable in population give or take but its not but it just doesn't have the over vibrancy of other cities. So saying we are not alone. Yes we have come along way since the Folmer years.

Also check out Jackson, MS. They actually have lots of private investors spending multi millions building condos and mix use properties downtown. They already have a pretty sizable downtown resident population who has formed a neighborhood association in the past few years.

So for it just seems like Bonner and the city doing all the work, when will the high roller investors really make a change downtown?
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A cigar enthusiast over at urbanplanet.org is interested in opening a downtown cigar bar. Just an idea so far but hopefully will come to be.

http://www.urbanplanet.org/forums/index.php/topic/52388-cigar-bar-for-downtown-montgomery/
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Plan to help Garrett Coliseum could emerge within weeks, leaders say


The state is looking at rescinding $800,000 in funding to remodel Garrett Coliseum in Montgomery. Officials are trying to come up with a plan to save the antiquated facility. / Mickey Welsh/Advertiser file

Lawmakers and the administration of Gov. Robert Bentley are looking toward cutting funding for renovations at Garrett Coliseum, but Mayor Todd Strange and other local officials said there is an opportunity for a public-private partnership to update the antiquated facility.

A committee in the Alabama Senate voted 9-1 on Wednesday to rescind a 2010 bill that would provide $800,000 a year in state funding that would be combined with private investment and local funding to revamp the coliseum. Both sides said Wednesday that the original effort at public-private partnership failed, but that there is a renewed effort.

"There is a group making a last-ditch attempt to do something about Garrett Coliseum," said State Sen. Dick Brewbaker, R-Pike Road.

Brewbaker said they should know within a week or two if that effort is viable.
He was the one member of the committee to vote against the bill, but said his colleagues assured him they would allow time to determine whether the current effort will work.

The administration wants to free up the $800,000 line item to use elsewhere in the General Fund budget.

With the dire budget situation in the state, Sen. Arthur Orr, the sponsor of the bill and chairman of the Senate General Fund budget committee, said "we're trying to find any pockets of revenue that we could use to mitigate the severity of the cuts."

Senate Minority Leader Roger Bedford, D-Russellville, who was chairman of the Senate General Fund budget committee when they passed the bill, said he supported it then, but then the public-private partnership did not work out.

He said he supports "redoing Garrett Coliseum" and believes it is a "real Alabama treasure."

*Brewbaker would not divulge who was behind the effort to revitalize the public-private partnership, but pushed his colleagues for more time. If the effort is unsuccessful, he said he would not oppose the efforts to pull the funding.

Bedford, said he did not know there was another effort.

Brewbaker and Rep. Joe Hubbard, D-Montgomery, said the area and the economy benefit if the coliseum remains open.

"It is an economic engine. It can be a great economic engine in the future," Hubbard said.

He said there is a several million-dollar economic impact on the city from the coliseum.

"That is something we can't afford to lose as a community," Hubbard said.
Brewbaker said that if they defund it, the coliseum will "sit out there and rot," becoming a public safety issue, so he wants to ensure they "turn over all the rocks."

Strange said Wednesday that he had told state officials earlier this year that the city, county and state should come up with a plan for Garrett Coliseum.
He said he had been asked if the city wanted to take over the facility.

"My answer was no, that's not something that we'd be interested in," he said.
But, in conjunction with other entities, it's a possibility, the mayor said.
"In partnership, it would be worth discussing," he said.

He said the facility that houses several large annual events, including a multi-day rodeo earlier this month, is "worth saving."

At a legislative update Wednesday morning, Hubbard and fellow state Rep. Jay Love, R-Montgomery, told Strange and other city and county officials that the Legislature was working on a plan for the coliseum.

"We are in the process of working out something that could save that facility for our use in the city and county," Hubbard said.

Hubbard said he talked with Strange, County Commission Chairman Elton Dean and Commissioner John McMillan of the Alabama Department of Agriculture and Industries.

McMillan did not respond to a request for comment before press time.
Hubbard said he is working to have legislation drafted that would create a coliseum authority that would allow the state, city and county to work with the business community "to renovate the coliseum and ultimately sell it to a private developer."

He was hopeful they could create a quasi-governmental entity.
Hubbard said if there had been a serious effort to form a public-private partnership, "they would have looked at this authority option."
"I say give us some time to try this. That is what I am trying to do at no cost to the state," Hubbard said.

The coliseum is home to the Alabama National Fair, the circus, monster truck shows, rodeos and similar events.

"Whether there is a private organization that can make a profit off of these things, I don't know the answer to that," Hubbard said.

Hubbard also said the coliseum is an "architectural marvel."

"It really has some intrinsic value," he said.

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A cigar enthusiast over at urbanplanet.org is interested in opening a downtown cigar bar. Just an idea so far but hopefully will come to be.

I saw that also. I'm not a smoker but I think it would be cool. I love Wine and Smoke shop/parlors. I had a boss who smoked cigars and I attended one with him years ago in San Antonio, TX. I actually smoked my first and only cigar there.

If they open maybe I will smoke my second.
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Montgomery may sell properties at discount

Apr. 1, 2011
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The city is in the process of selling two more properties in downtown Montgomery, one of which could be sold for less than half the price the city spent to acquire it.

Gary Blackman, a local builder, and Kapstone Investment Group LLC, which is based in Montgomery, signed purchase and sale agreements with the city this week, but the Montgomery City Council must still approve agreements.

The city paid $225,000 for the 11 Dexter Ave. property when it was purchased last year, and if the current proposal is approved, it will be sold to Blackman for $92,000. Blackman intends to turn a portion of the building into his residence.

Kapstone has offered to pay $25,000 for the vacant property at the corner of Washington Avenue and Perry Street. Kapstone was the highest bidder on the property, which was "left over" property from the Washington Avenue parking deck project, according to Deputy Mayor Jeff Downes.

"These properties sat, in some cases, vacant and unutilized, and the economic value to the city will be made up in very short order when you start bringing some greater life to this," Downes said Thursday. "It's a way for government to incentivize the private industry to act."

"Then, there's the value of the improved appearance of the building that will then hopefully spread to other blocks and create opportunities for other developments," Downes added.

The City Council will meet Tuesday, but it was unknown at press time if the purchase and sale agreements would be on the agenda. The City Council has already approved the sale of 78 Dexter Ave. in mid-February. That property was appraised at $102,000 and sold for $60,000.

The city purchased the majority of the properties included in the lower Dexter Avenue redevelopment project in bulk for $3.2 million from one property owner.

An attempt to reach Blackman Thursday afternoon was unsuccessful, but he said in an earlier interview that he wanted to improve the façade of 11 Dexter Ave., keep City Drug as a tenant, and turn the second and third floors into residential space for his family.

Blackman, who has a company called Distinctive Homes, is also building the homes for the Lanier Place development near West Fairview Avenue.

A spokesperson for Kapstone declined to be interviewed for this story, but said his company intends to build a four-story mixed-use building that would likely include retail and office space and amount to a multimillion dollar investment. Construction could start mid-summer or early fall of this year.

Chad Emerson, director of development, said the two new agreements will "keep the momentum going" on lower Dexter Avenue.

"Regular intervals of momentum is something that made the Alley successful, and we feel good about Dexter Avenue because we've seen those same regular intervals of action," Emerson said.

The city is negotiating with other individuals who expressed formal interest in redeveloping the properties during a request for proposals process, Emerson said.

"I anticipate, if progress continues to be made as it currently is, that we may have an additional agreement signed by the end of April," Emerson said.
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Two "For Sale" signs, placed by Colonial Commercial Realty, have appeared just off the edges of the Huntingdon College's Cloverdale Campus, one along Fairview Avenue and one at the corner of Boultier Street and Fairview Avenue.

2.85 acres of the 13 acres popularly known as the Cloverdale Campus were purchased by Colonial from the College, in two tracts, several years ago. The tract encompassing the corner of Boultier and Fairview, across from Sinclair's, is 2.2 acres. The tract along Fairview, across from Capitol Book & News, is .65 acres. Colonial's intention has been to develop this property with offices, retail shops, restaurants, and residential facilities that would have enhanced our neighborhood.

Because those development plans have not been realized, Colonial has found it necessary to offer their acreage for sale. None of the College's property on the Cloverdale Campus -- just over 10 acres -- is affected.
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