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Old Posted Mar 20, 2011, 11:45 PM
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Empire, you child and rude, cruel, insulting person!

PEOPLE HATER!

I think you should get off this site and stay off!

WELL, I WILL BECAUSE I`M SICK AND TIRE OF IGNORANT INSULTING PEOPLE LIKE YOU AND I WON`T GIVE YOU THE SATISFACTION! YOU PEOPLE HATER! GROW UP!
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 20, 2011, 11:50 PM
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How you`re hanging Halifax and Mayor Kelly, guys stop the foolishness, you`re acting like a bunch of kids. I wasn`t knocking Moncton, I was purely stating a fact that the concert promoter needed and wanted financial support as well from the city of Moncton and got in. It doesn`t matter how it was implemented, it`s still Moncton`s taxpayers money they invested to help the concert promoter and to help the city Moncton to be successfu as well. It was a joint venture and I have no problem with it.
You are missing the point again. Moncton invested in infrastructure that would produce dividends and Halifax invested in backroom deals that would produce scandal.
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Old Posted Mar 21, 2011, 12:02 AM
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PEOPLE HATER!

I think you should get off this site and stay off!

WELL, I WILL BECAUSE I`M SICK AND TIRE OF IGNORANT INSULTING PEOPLE LIKE YOU AND I WON`T GIVE YOU THE SATISFACTION! YOU PEOPLE HATER! GROW UP!
wespidel.....I admire your tenacity. I know you want a stadium like all of us on this thread. Don't dispair it will happen.

PS: Perhaps you should read again what you have said about me and others on this thread?
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Old Posted Mar 21, 2011, 10:32 AM
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wespidel.....I admire your tenacity. I know you want a stadium like all of us on this thread. Don't dispair it will happen.
Yes. Perhaps the mayor can do a secret backroom deal without council's knowledge to get a stadium by putting taxpayers on the hook for hidden payments to the developer.
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 21, 2011, 2:07 PM
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Yes. Perhaps the mayor can do a secret backroom deal without council's knowledge to get a stadium by putting taxpayers on the hook for hidden payments to the developer.
This is a good segue back to the stadium topic .
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 21, 2011, 4:42 PM
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I just had a read through the last couple pages in this thread, and I had to lol.
I think the Mayor is handling this badly and should step down, but we also have to be careful that he doesn't get replaced with a total wingnut.
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 21, 2011, 6:15 PM
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Moncton`s Mayor has invested over 8 million dollars of tax payers money to stage big concerts and they haven`t gotten their money back either and have lost money.
You are wrong.

Moncton invested 5 million (or so.. I'm not sure what's being quoted now) in the physical asset of the Magnetic Hill concert site. They still have that asset and those improvements. When you buy a $500,000 house, you haven't "lost" $500,000... you've simply replaced cash with a physical asset worth the same.

Concerts have lost (Rolling Stones) and made money since then, with the city ahead (net) to the tune of $500,000.

Sorry to have resurrected the zombie. This truly belongs in the other thread. My apologies.
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 21, 2011, 7:13 PM
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Vorkuta knows of what he speaks. He works for the City of Moncton so you can take this as coming from the horse's mouth.
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Old Posted Mar 21, 2011, 7:29 PM
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Vorkuta[/B] knows of what he speaks. He works for the City of Moncton so you can take this as coming from the horse's mouth.
To be fair, nothing I stated isn't public record. Not my department, I'm more of an infrastructure guy.
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 21, 2011, 8:21 PM
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To be fair, nothing I stated isn't public record. Not my department, I'm more of an infrastructure guy.
Yes, sorry Vorkuta, I didn't mean to imply that you had inside information. I'm aware that you aren't with civic administration.
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Old Posted Mar 21, 2011, 8:26 PM
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I already gave a warning about concert talk being off-topic here. It has its own thread.

New concert posts in this thread will be deleted.
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 21, 2011, 11:06 PM
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Who owns the land bounded by Windmill Rd., Wallace Heights, Wright's Cove gypsum terminal and the Basin? Looks like a good place for a harbour front stadium. This would be somewhat protected from the wind coming straight up the harbour.

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Who owns the land bounded by Windmill Rd., Wallace Heights, Wright's Cove gypsum terminal and the Basin? Looks like a good place for a harbour front stadium. This would be somewhat protected from the wind coming straight up the harbour.

According to the DEED(s) its registered to her majesty the queen (canada) i.e. the federal government for one parcel, Department of National Defence for another parcel, and National Gypsum for another.
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 30, 2011, 1:08 AM
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This thread has been inactive for some time now. After having observed so many shenanigans over the past few years of closely following the HRM news (example - Discovery Centre), I think that Mayor Kelly deserves a lot of credit. If I had to deal with all the HRM wingnuts, I would be insane by now . In my opinion, Mayor Kelly is doing what he can to see that the new convention centre gets build, he has succeeded in having a wastewater treatment facility built, has managed to get some big name concerts in Halifax and he is doing what he can to see that a stadium is built in the Halifax area. (of course he hasn't done all of these things without support). Personally, I think Mayor Kelly has had several successes in spite of strong opposition from special interest groups (thanks to local area media). I hope that he will have the same success with the stadium.

The steering committee meetings have begun - does anyone have any inside information on the progress? Who, or what group, has been chosen to do the phase 1 business case study?

PS: By wingnuts I am referring to people who oppose everything without any thought. (no one on this skyscraperpage forum)

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Old Posted Mar 31, 2011, 1:44 PM
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The HRM has established a new website page on their halifax.ca main website. The new municipality website page specifically for stadium information is at: www.halifax.ca/stadium . This is the official website for the stadium. GREAT NEWS - it is a start. (This is different than the halifaxstadium.ca website that I set up.)

There isn't much on the new municipality stadium website as of yet but as information become available it will be updated by the municipality (not by me).

Thanks to wespidel for emailing me the information.
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 31, 2011, 7:56 PM
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The HRM has established a new website page on their halifax.ca main website. The new municipality website page specifically for stadium information is at: www.halifax.ca/stadium . This is the official website for the stadium. GREAT NEWS - it is a start. (This is different than the halifaxstadium.ca website that I set up.)

There isn't much on the new municipality stadium website as of yet but as information become available it will be updated by the municipality (not by me).

Thanks to wespidel for emailing me the information.
This is good news. I think we will hear some more details in the coming months. I'm glad that the Women's world cup will be putting pressure on HRM to make this happen sooner rather than later.
     
     
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No stadium, no problem — yet
Soccer officials assess Halifax as potential host for women's World Cup games
By MONTY MOSHER Sports Reporter
Tue, Apr 5 - 5:39 PM

There was a horde of soccer dignitaries — and one 800-pound gorilla — in the room at a media conference Tuesday in Halifax.

Officials from the Canadian Soccer Association, along with a representative from Events Nova Scotia and Soccer Nova Scotia, met with reporters after the CSA brass spent two days in Halifax to assess its potential as a host locale for the 2015 World Cup women’s soccer championship.

After paying an entry fee to be part of the bid process, Halifax is one of seven Canadian centres in line to host games in the tournament. Canada became the tournament host last month when Zimbabwe quit the process.

The CSA, which began the national tour in Vancouver before heading to Nova Scotia, seemed pleased with Halifax, except for the niggling detail of no stadium and no urgency to get one built. A 20,000-seat stadium to satisfy FIFA requirements would likely cost upwards of $60 million.

FIFA observers will be in Halifax in September to assess the city’s readiness, or lack thereof, for a world-class soccer event. Meanwhile, a steering committee looking into the stadium issue for Halifax Regional Municipality continues its work.

CSA general secretary Peter Montopoli, along with CSA president Dominic Maestracci, reviewed the hotels and training facilities around the region and found all to their liking.

Montopoli reiterated that the stadium issue can still be resolved in time for 2015. The officials looked at potential stadium locations as part of their tour.

“From what we’ve seen yesterday and today, certainly Halifax has everything available and ready to be part of a FIFA Women’s World Cup in terms of the convention centre, the hotels and what we’re learning and seeing from the training fields. Obviously, that’s an important part.

“The last part is the new stadium project, which we’re very encouraged as to what we hear where that development is today.”

He said a decision to build a stadium could come in early 2012 and still keep Halifax in contention.

“It’s a little tight, but it certainly still works for us,” he said. “In early 2012, when we announce the official host cities, if they stay on the timeline we should be OK.”

The caravan is off to Montreal next. Edmonton, Winnipeg, Ottawa and Moncton are also on the list with Moncton’s turn coming later this month.

Montopoli said that despite the proximity, Halifax is not competing against Moncton in the bid process.

“They can both be successful cities, there’s no doubt about that,” he said. “We made a commitment to the federal government and to the provinces and the people in our sport that we wish to be coast to coast.

“We’re committed to making that happen and we’re doing everything we can to support each of the candidate bid cities,” he added. “It’s not one over the other.”

He said FIFA will eventually weigh in and FIFA has strict standards that need to be met. Ultimately, the CSA and FIFA will sit down to determine the participating cities.

Canada will also host the 2014 world under-20 women’s event. Montopoli said that tournament is smaller than the 2015 tournament and would likely to be held in a central location to keep transportation costs to a minimum.

Grant MacDonald, the director of major events and community partnerships at Events Nova Scotia, said he’s pleased the CSA liked the city and looks forward to FIFA’s arrival a few months from now.

“We will hopefully have some progress,” he said. “HRM continues their work on the stadium steering committee and I believe they will be going back to council between now and September and as a result we should have more to report to FIFA and the CSA.”

The FIFA Women’s World Cup is held every four years and will be in Germany this summer. Twenty-four countries will participate.

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It is good to see that Halifax is still in the running to be a host city for the 2015 FIFA World Women's Cup. Halifax has a large number of hotel rooms which is a plus as far as getting international events. It is also relatively close to many European cities.

Halifax has been successful at holding national and international events (2003 World Junior Ice Hockey Championships, 1990 World Figure Skating Championships, one host city of the 2008 International Ice Hockey Federation Championships, 1997 G7 summit, 2009 Canoe World Championships ...).

I think Halifax is a natural choice to be a host city if it can build a stadium.

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We just need to have it ready to build by 2012 and we should be good
     
     
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Stadium info, please respect, it`s my view! Back one last time only for some!

A couple of interesting points that I personally find embarrassing and very discouraging! The Head of Soccer NS was on 95.7 today and delivered horrible news unless you are excitied about a university stadium project for Halifax. He went around Halifax with Soccer Canada and looked at two stadium locations, Burnside and Shannon Park and current soccer facilities, soccer training sites, 4 star Hotels which apparently are crucial for the FIFA bid and Halifax has 10 of them which puts Halifax in an advantage over Moncton. But the bad news is that he mentioned that Betty Killen, project manager for the city of Halifax, made a stadium presentation to Soccer Canada and suggested that Halifax probably is looking at a 20 to 30 million dollar stadium, either a 5 thousand permanent seats with 15 thousand temporary seats or a 9,500 permanent seat stadium with 10 thousand temporary seats, which would be the Events NS model FIFA bid. This really upsets me and I truely believe all along that they were deliberately snowing and misleading the public. This is a joke! This so called stadium, is to give Saint Mary`s a stadium they currently don`t have and that`s all it we be! This is the second time the head of Soccer NS was on local radio and stated something similar after Ottawa refused to help fund any stadiums in Canada. What is so disturbing about this information is that the city of Halifax tonite approved 22 million to renovate the Dart. Sportsplex and 10 million to renovate the Halifax forum. Halifax and there advisory committee is a joke and they are wasting hundreds of thousands of dollars to build a mickey mouse little tiny eyesore of a so called stadium to accomodate Soccer NS and Saint Mary`s.

The city of Halifax have show no respect for a major stadium in Halifax yet they had no problem treating all other projects in Halifax with a tremendous amount of respect financially and project wise.

45 million for a 4-pad in Bedford with no Fed support

48 million dollar Canada Games Centre, Fed and Provincial Govt. support

57 million each by the city of Halifax and province for new Convention Centre

58 million for a new library in Halifax, some Fed support

20 to 30 million for a eyesore tiny little grandstand which doesn`t deserve to be called a stadium, what a joke......



I left a message for Dexter`s govt. who by the way have showed no support for a stadium in Halifax! I personally emailed Dexter a proposal to build a modestly priced 85 to 100 million dollar multi purpose stadium asking for his financial support in a big way and I got back an ignorant reply stating that it was Halifax`s stadium and that Halifax will own it and that I should direct any emails to them which by the way I have many times. I replied to Dexter, that based on his 2 % HST hike and his 1,400 service 2% increases and his 40% gas tax on tax that I feel his govt. robbed from the taxpayers of NS in just one year, that his govt. could easily build three 25,000 permanent seat 100 million dollar two tier twined stadiums with open endzones to expand to 45 or 50 thousand seats for major events, with all the latest amenities, such as luxury boxes, VIP club lounges, restaurants, permanent concession stands and washrooms etc. with our money! "Guess what", I was almost right on! I indicated to his govt. that by my calculation that they would rake in over 350 million dollars in extra tax money that Nova Scotians paid his govt. in insanely high taxes. Well the Dexter`s surplus was 450 million so they can now build four and a half 100 million dollar stadiums with our money!


Anyway if it was any different we wouldn`t be hearing these types of comments from the people involved in their so called stadium project instead we the public would be shown a lot more respect and would be encouraged if the city was seriuos about building a real stadium by taking the proper approach to build a modestly priced 85 to 100 million dollar stadium which is still at the lower spectrum, cost wise in comparison to all the other major stadiums being built in Canada! Well I guess Halifax is not a major city or a capital city with a popluation of 410 thousand nor the largest city in Atlantic Canada are they! Instead Halifax is a mickey mouse city just like the mickey mouse tiny little so called stadium they are going to build that will embarrass our city and province and the rest of Canada! Good job Halifax, in case you don`t know a stadium project is naturally a bigger project than a 60 million dollar library! Oh I`m sorry it`s not comparable because it`s a mickey mouse tiny little eyesore of a stadium!

So much for Councillor Fisher`s theory that Halifax needs a stadium between a Moncton Stade stadium and a stadium in Brazil. At least he gave us some hope but not for long!


PS. By the way the architect company involved which did the Events NS FIFA 30 million dollar 9,500 permanent seat tiny lttle stadium is WHW Canada who has a branch in Halifax and a local web site where you can see their HFX. CommonWealth Game backside of their stadium design. You would think they and the city would have learned something!


You can tell I`m not happy! Moncton you will win the FIFA bid and the only way Halifax has a chance if they build a modestly priced 85 to 100 million dollar stadium which they won`t and what they will finally build may even be smaller than yours. So if I was Moncton and I was seriuos about truely being a player on a National and Global level which Halifax will never be, I would be looking to invest 75 million to expand Stade stadium to make it a CFL model, 25,000 plus permanent seat stadium with all the amenities which will totally shut Halifax out of the market and close the door, of any chance for Halifax to land a major professional sports franchise and any other major events. Go for it Moncton because Halifax is no competion!


I`m sorry, but the way Halifax is treating this stadium project which should be totally treated like any other major city in Canada, with excitement and total respect and treated as a major project, much bigger than any library which it should be, from an engineering point of view, for a city the size of Halifax. But Halifax is not and it`s insulting to me and many more taxpayers in HRM and Nova Scotia when we are being robbed by the city and Dexter`s govt. by paying the highest taxes in the country and they are doing it again and robbing us of a major stadium which we have already paid for, a lot more than a 100 million!
     
     
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