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Originally Posted by Centropolis
Thanks for sharing that Thundertubs, that is insanely impressive. Is Hoboken pretty expensive now? Is the silly NJ stigma pretty much gone on the NY side among normal human beings? I've unfortunately been either so overtaken by NY when I'm there that I almost kill myself in the drink or walk myself until delirious with blistered, bleeding feet that I can hardly remember talking to anyone at the bar or on the street. Except I randomly ran into my boss, he was at my companies HQ in midtown...NY is seriously all kinds of dark and light magic (i'm not into dark/light magic, but i could be).
Too bad this entire country isn't some more progressive version of Kerouac's crowded, cramped urban and quiet, empty world.
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Hoboken has gotten pretty upscale and very expensive (direct subway access to the Village, Midtown, and Lower Manhattan), and has been so for a while, just more so nowadays. I think some people who move to NYC from elsewhere have a snobbish attitude towards NJ, but Hoboken is a very popular entry-level location for kids who grew up in suburban NJ. Although the urban built environment of Hoboken is unmatched by anywhere not named New York or Boston, the main drag of Washington Street can be a pretty lame scene. Think thumpy clubs and loud drunk fratty people in the streets at night. It's kind of like Wrigleyville, but less sports-oriented.
That said, it's a charming place in the daytime and certainly worth a visit.
Neighboring Jersey City is not quite as cohesive, but it is grittier in spots, less annoying, and relatively less expensive.
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