Salt Lake:Official development news thread - Part 2

[SLC4L]

Originally Posted by s.p.hansen

(Utah) State of the State address 2011

http://connect2utah.com/news-story/?nxd_id=128106

This is the Democratic Party's response to the state of the state address. I pushed the dolly and set up some lights. Here is a link to a ridiculously small video.

[SLCdave]

We should see a Tower Crane at Providence Place in the next few weeks

[RFPCME]

Originally Posted by gemery

That sounds like a great project. Question: what is HUD? I am excited to see the renderings when they come out (though, I'm sure that's still a long way off).

Gemery:

Looks like someone already told you about HUD. Funny, growing up in Utah and living there a big portion of my adult life, I don't remember encountering HUD at all. I'm sure it was there, but I just didn't run into it.

I sure knew HUD from the big cities, like the "projects" in Chicago, the "Bronx" in NYC, which was filled with early public housing projects, and so forth. Public Housing generally had a bad rep, and for some pretty good reasons. Many projects turned into high-rise ghettos pretty quickly. People were provided a place to live but were not provided with the skills and resources to get beyond public housing. We've all seen enough crime shows to know how awful many of those project became.

Today, HUD is investing in projects that don't segregate people who need financial assistance with housing. The tenants/owners are mixed with people who can afford housing. In turn, the initial quality of the housing projects has gotten much better because at least 2/3's of the occupants choose to live there. Property values don't crash because one of the conditions of living there is that occupants have to maintain the properties. Crime is far less. Local education systems are better because the projects are not restricted to the inner cities. Best, the tenants are not swept under the rug, out of site of the general public; they are part of the general public. It's not a cure all, but it seems to be working in many areas.

I wish I could show you rendering of the project I worked on. But I can't yet because our grant application is still under consideration for funding. You may not be very interested anyway since the project is planned for Middle Georgia, which is where I live, about 2,200 road miles from the Salt Lake Valley.

[delts145]

I strongly agree that a healthy mix is the best option. My own personal experience in L.A. has confirmed many of the forum's like-minded opinions and personal experiences. I lived in a beautifully restored 1930's tower in the area immediately west of MacArthur Park. The whole neighborhood has been experiencing a much welcomed rebirth. The manager of our particular building was a good friend, and she would often discuss with me some of the management reponsibilites. We had a healthy number of section 8 residents. Certainly some presented a heightened challenge, but I don't think that the percentage was any more than among the other many diverse numbers. Most were making a very positive contribution to the succesful mix of the property, and you never really knew who was section 8, unless they volunteered the info. The manager never felt overwhelmed, the property was clean, and beautifully maintained. The wonderful mix of so many diverse ethnicities, cultures, and occupations was an incredibly positive experience. We had everything from graduate students at USC, to movie industry people, to retired seniors. I loved it.

[SLC Projects]

It's Jan. 29th and still no courthouse ground breaking. It's getting very hard to take people seriously whenever these guys come up with a date or month of when they hope to start a project of any kind.

[T-Mac]

That's the federal government for you.

[CofIKid]

Double post

[CofIKid]

They broke ground! Drive by it. There just has not been an official cermony, but heavy excavation has started.

I should start working on that project in the next couple months.

[SLC Projects]

Originally Posted by CofIKid

They broke ground! Drive by it. There just has not been an official cermony, but heavy excavation has started.

I should start working on that project in the next couple months.

They did?, that's great. I was waiting to see the official ceremony on the news or on here. This will be a great project to follow.

[John Martin]

Yup, surely enough there's a big square hole forming.

[delts145]

Cool.... Thanks John.

[John Martin]

Gallivan Center:

[Reachforthesky]

So I have a question? What would it take to get Millcreek township officially annexed to SLC? Its hard to believe that a totally developed area like this is still unincorporated.

I along with many of my friends in Millcreek already consider it SLC. In fact the post office does too! They have designated Salt Lake City as the place name for all mailing addresses and post offices located in Millcreek. I know alot of people who are for annexation(and some who thought they already lived in SLC) its already widely considered SLC so why not make it official?? and with it being 2011, the old law that prevented annexation has expired. What could be done to get the ball rollin?

[i-215]

Many people would be ticked to lose the local control. Last I heard they were pushing to combine with South Lake Lake and create a new city called Millcreek City.

I think there's an ongoing study to see if it's financially viable. SSL needs population and Millcreek needs industry. It would be a perfect match, and maintain the local control residents generally want.

[John Martin]

There are also a lot of Millcreek residents who want to be part of Murray. I won't be surprised if it gets split up at some point.

[arkhitektor]

Also, being called "Millcreek City" would do a lot to improve SSL's generally bad reputation as a place to live.

[Stenar]

Originally Posted by i-215

Many people would be ticked to lose the local control. Last I heard they were pushing to combine with South Lake Lake and create a new city called Millcreek City.

I think there's an ongoing study to see if it's financially viable. SSL needs population and Millcreek needs industry. It would be a perfect match, and maintain the local control residents generally want.

The most recent article I saw said they were looking at incorporation alone without South Salt Lake.

[s.p.hansen]

Well I guess it could go three ways using the most recent examples I could think of:

1. Go the Spring Lake, Utah route and make no decision until the county just ends up allowing it to be split up and annexed into neighboring cities (Spring Lake, Utah is currently being absorbed by Payson and Santaquin).

2. Go the Val Verda, Utah route where it would hold a vote between which neighboring city it will join (Val Verda chose Bountiful over North Salt Lake via ballot in 1983).

3. Go the Eagle Mountain, Utah route and incorporate and become its own city (1996).

[farmerboy]

I wonder how the addition of Millcreek would affect politics in SLC. It seems like we currently lean to the left as a whole. I wonder if the addition of Millcreek would sway us to the right? I'm assuming because we live in Utah where 80% of the population votes republican and the other 20% live in SLC. (obviously not accurate statistics) I would soooo not be in favor of this...

[delts145]

Ultimately Farmerboy I think you it the nail on the head. That's probably the number one reason why Salt Lake's power base has not been all that anxious to annex Millcreek. Certainly it would dilute the more liberal politics of Salt Lake City itself.