Upon a more careful observation of these pics, the glass on 1 WTC is very similar, if not exactly the same quality of 7 WTC, save for the difference in the spandrel glass. Which I see as a good thing. The glass on 7 WTC is very dynamic - bright and reflective from some angles, and completely transparent from others, while being both from many more.
Personally, I like the open space in the spandrel glass of 7 WTC more, as it more clearly delineates the floors, especially from a distance. But I'm not sure that visual trick would work as well on 1 WTC's angular, tapering sides. It might distract one from the overall form of the tower.
So after initially worrying about the quality of the glass when we saw the first few panels, I'm coming around to really digging it.
Personally, I like the open space in the spandrel glass of 7 WTC more, as it more clearly delineates the floors, especially from a distance. But I'm not sure that visual trick would work as well on 1 WTC's angular, tapering sides. It might distract one from the overall form of the tower.
So after initially worrying about the quality of the glass when we saw the first few panels, I'm coming around to really digging it.
Agreed. 7WTC is a simple parallelogram, it needed distinction in its details and surface treatment. If the same dynamic curtain wall was applied to the already dynamic shape of 1WTC, the design would've came out too busy.
Same here! I'm going to NYC for the first time in late fall 2011/early winter - I can't wait! I'm thinking it isn't topped off by then, it should be close!
Same here! I'm going to NYC for the first time in late fall 2011/early winter - I can't wait! I'm thinking it isn't topped off by then, it should be close!
as a first timer, you will be in awe and not just over the WTC site
Why is criticism of these buildings or dissenting opinions frowned upon in this forum? Nitpickers, really? Is this supposed to be a cheerleading website for tall buildings or an informative and accessible place to discuss architecture? (I'd prefer both)
STR's renderings are indeed incredible and I love looking at them too -- I hadn't noticed how the seams of the glass along the edge of the tower line up until the new closeups photos of the construction. In the totality of the facade maybe the seams don't look as awkward, but then again as Charles Eames said, “The details are not the details. They make the design.”
Everyone is entitled to there opinion, but I find 3 pages full of criticism about the same thing every other day rather tiring.
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I'm not sure what you would expect the designer or glass manufacturer to do. It's and angle. At some point and time (and it will repeat again all the way up the building) you are either going to have a seam or a larger pane of glass. You can only make a sliver of glazing so small and be able to securely attach it to the building.
Biff gets it.
This tower was designed to withstand hurricane force winds while looking great doing it.
Love that render capture, STR. 1 WTC looks spectacular from that angle and you can clearly see the descending height relationship from 1 > 2 > 3 > 4 WTC. Never noticed the different height step outs on the North and South sides of 3 WTC until your renders.
All the setbacks on 3 & 4 are deliberate attempts to form a relationship between the two buildings.
All the setbacks on 3 & 4 are deliberate attempts to form a relationship between the two buildings.
That's a little bit of a stretch, don't you think? Your're essentially just comparing two highly placed setbacks. You could easily do that for a whole lot of buildings, even just in nyc. I would say that the two buildings are very similar, but I wouldn't call it a deliberate relationship.
^ yep, still is a bit sad the poor Verizon will not get any more direct sunlight.
I’ve always thought that building would be better grouped rather than standalone (as it recently has been). It’s just funny to see such an old building being surrounded by modern glass buildings; shows distinctively how times change.
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Man... If they were to cancel the other buildings and rebuild 2 WTC to be a twin component to One WTC...
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