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  #10521  
Old Posted Oct 21, 2010, 3:04 AM
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Woohoo, I might have this thing done by tomorrow.

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Old Posted Oct 21, 2010, 3:44 AM
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WOW STR!!!!!!!!! Amazzzing!!! Btw how do you make those models??? I only know how to make paper models but not those models??? ^^
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Old Posted Oct 21, 2010, 3:46 AM
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Excellent model, you should work for Silverstein Properties ;-)
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Old Posted Oct 21, 2010, 3:46 AM
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Sheldon Silver and Larry Silverstein.

Oh they think they have a nice model eh? Well here's my New World Trade Center Complex model:























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Old Posted Oct 21, 2010, 3:47 AM
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Lookin' good


Random thought, The building without the base is 1182 feet tall, so if we were to do a calculation of when the flat and tapered sides are even it should be about 777 feet. Which is about where the skylobby is, it will make the perfect octogon just past the roof of 7 WTC. The flat sides will get 10 feet narrower every 59 feet about after that, so at the highest office floor, level 90 it should be about 40 feet wide, right below the mechanical band.


I wrote this up just out of curiosity, about how wide the non tapered sides are as they go down the building.

1368- completely tapered
1309- flat sides are 10 feet wide each (103rd/104th floor)
Observatory 1266' (about 17 feet wide)
Restaurant floors (1235 to 1255) about 23-18 feet wide
1191- 30' (92nd floor)
1132- 40' (90th floor)
1073- 50' (86th/87th floor)
1014- 60' (82nd floor)
955- 70' (77th floor)
896- 80' (72nd/73rd floor)
837- 90' (68th floor)
778- 100' (64th floor skylobby?)


Guess I was off by a foot but it's probably because it's 59 feet plus a few centimeters
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 21, 2010, 3:51 AM
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Lookin' good


Random thought, The building without the base is 1182 feet tall, so if we were to do a calculation of when the flat and tapered sides are even it should be about 777 feet. Which is about where the skylobby is, it will make the perfect octogon just past the roof of 7 WTC. The flat sides will get 10 feet narrower every 59 feet about after that, so at the highest office floor, level 90 it should be about 40 feet wide, right below the mechanical band.


I wrote this up just out of curiosity, about how wide the non tapered sides are as they go down the building.

1368- completely tapered
1309- flat sides are 10 feet wide each (103rd/104th floor)
Observatory 1266' (about 17 feet wide)
Restaurant floors (1235 to 1255) about 23-18 feet wide
1191- 30' (92nd floor)
1132- 40' (90th floor)
1073- 50' (86th/87th floor)
1014- 60' (82nd floor)
955- 70' (77th floor)
896- 80' (72nd/73rd floor)
837- 90' (68th floor)
778- 100' (64th floor skylobby?)


Guess I was off by a foot but it's probably because it's 59 feet plus a few centimeters
Thanks! Btw you Mexican? So am i! lol
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Old Posted Oct 21, 2010, 4:46 AM
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Woohoo, I might have this thing done by tomorrow.

Very cool stuff!
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Old Posted Oct 21, 2010, 6:44 AM
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^Yeah, we really haven't had a good look at the upper level air intakes. The plans suggest what I put up there, plus it was really easy to do, and the drawings and renderings conflict with each other.

Well, I doubt they'll be black stripes like I did there. I already made them more intake-y, but that was just a test shot to see if everything worked right. At this point, the building exterior is largely done (just the base and the roof junk is left) and a little bit of interior work (basic building core, some simulated elevators. I don't suppose the elevator stacking diagram has been posted?

EDIT: Here's one last shot until I finish it, which will probably be tomorrow (no promises).
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Old Posted Oct 21, 2010, 11:54 AM
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str, you should really go over to the sketchup subforum.... even if you don't use sketchup! it would be cool to see your other works.
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 21, 2010, 1:35 PM
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Here's one last shot until I finish it, which will probably be tomorrow (no promises).

Beautiful...


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Love it...
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^Yeah, we really haven't had a good look at the upper level air intakes. The plans suggest what I put up there, plus it was really easy to do, and the drawings and renderings conflict with each other.

Well, I doubt they'll be black stripes like I did there. I already made them more intake-y, but that was just a test shot to see if everything worked right. At this point, the building exterior is largely done (just the base and the roof junk is left) and a little bit of interior work (basic building core, some simulated elevators. I don't suppose the elevator stacking diagram has been posted?

EDIT: Here's one last shot until I finish it, which will probably be tomorrow (no promises).
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Looking good!
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 21, 2010, 3:18 PM
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This is amazing...
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 21, 2010, 4:53 PM
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so much for cladding to start on oct 20th.
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 21, 2010, 5:38 PM
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Is the globe fountain from old WTC going to be put back once the memorial is finished, or stay in Battery Park?
     
     
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Lots of talented people on this forum. I'm impressed.
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 21, 2010, 6:38 PM
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so much for cladding to start on oct 20th.
Technically, it already has started.

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The cladding for the base is still weeks if not months away. They only just started installing the brackets to support it. (That's what the pic that GB took that Onn posted shows, all those little white squares are stainless steel brackets.)

Probably the last part of the base cladding to go up is the very bottom, for two reasions. One it's supported by the protection walls, that are not up yet. and Two they really don't want to enclose the lobby just yet, it would really hinder access.
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Old Posted Oct 21, 2010, 7:57 PM
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I was just down there. They've definitely started but I expect a lot of preparation work to be taking place before we see some glass...

Look at the corner of floor 20 on the South East corner... Definitely activity going on there!
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 21, 2010, 9:25 PM
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Nevermind they family of cube people in the far corner.

Or the fact that I turned the corner glass into drywall for a second there...
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Old Posted Oct 21, 2010, 9:33 PM
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hey zensteeldude, are the w-size columns going to stay the same size to the top?

by the way...i'm currently a civil engineering major...those columns are awesome!
The size is the same, they are all 14 inch wide flange beams, used as columns. The weight per foot decreases the higher ya go, the loads are lower so the columns are thinner.

W14x730 = W for wide flange, 14 for the section hight and 730 is weight per foot

Up around the 65th floor you may have a W14x426.

The inside surface of the flange of any W14 well align with any other W14. Makes column splices a bit easier, all the shims go on the outside.

PS: The W14x808 was accepted by the ASCE, AISC and ASTM, thus making it the heaviest rolled section available.
More useful info.

http://www.structural-drafting-net-expert.com/steel-sections-i-beam-w-shape.html
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 21, 2010, 9:43 PM
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STR that is wonderful ! I think only the real thing could look better.

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