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  #10501  
Old Posted Oct 20, 2010, 6:43 PM
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^ Base cladding won't start for some time. What you see there is structural concrete between the two super-columns at the corner.
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Old Posted Oct 20, 2010, 6:52 PM
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^ Base cladding won't start for some time. What you see there is structural concrete between the two super-columns at the corner.
No one said that at all, in fact we haven't heard anything about base cladding. GreenwichBoy (WNY) seems to think it might be going forward soon....



The Earthcam does appear to show some cladding on site, but I could be wrong.

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Old Posted Oct 20, 2010, 7:15 PM
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I'd go look but it's bit chilly out there today ;-)
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 20, 2010, 7:21 PM
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I'd go look but it's bit chilly out there today ;-)
Well it doesn’t look like they are putting anything up, just possibly a piece of cladding sitting there. You're good for now.
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 20, 2010, 7:26 PM
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Well it doesn’t look like they are putting anything up, just possibly a piece of cladding sitting there. You're good for now.
It does make we wonder where all those trucks with cladding are hiding? They left Portland about 10 days ago... Must be hanging about on the Jersey side of the GW Bridge somewhere...
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 20, 2010, 7:36 PM
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It does make we wonder where all those trucks with cladding are hiding? They left Portland about 10 days ago... Must be hanging about on the Jersey side of the GW Bridge somewhere...
I would say the cladding is probably going to some kind of holding facility in New York or New Jersey. They probably have to sort it all out and what needs to go first and last...that could take some time. And of course we don't even know what's going on with the base cladding, that could be coming too.
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 20, 2010, 7:49 PM
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The Earthcam does appear to show some cladding on site, but I could be wrong.
Where do you see it?
     
     
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At which day there startet with the fassade.
does anybody nowes??
Is it in this month??
its supposed to start today...
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 20, 2010, 8:11 PM
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Where do you see it?
In yellow styrofoam, right next to the yellow backhoe or small crane. Should be pretty clear.
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 20, 2010, 8:17 PM
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Oh my, I think Installation of the Curtain Wall has finally started!




No, that's not cladding at all. That's a concrete layer on top of those yellow I-beams they've inserted between all the corner gaps. That corner has looked like that for weeks now
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 20, 2010, 8:50 PM
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At which day there startet with the fassade.
does anybody nowes??
Is it in this month??
it should start from today to the 25th
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Old Posted Oct 20, 2010, 9:25 PM
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The first of the curtain wall sections for the office floors are sitting in a bonded warehouse somewhere in the tri-state area. (I don't know exactly where.)

The cladding for the base is still weeks if not months away. They only just started installing the brackets to support it. (That's what the pic that GB took that Onn posted shows, all those little white squares are stainless steel brackets.)

Probably the last part of the base cladding to go up is the very bottom, for two reasions. One it's supported by the protection walls, that are not up yet. and Two they really don't want to enclose the lobby just yet, it would really hinder access.

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Old Posted Oct 20, 2010, 9:31 PM
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I understand. Shame there isn't anything you could share. Just a list of the elevations of each floor would be a bigger help than anything else. I mean, the rest of the info I can solve for based on publicly available info, plus a bit of logic. I mean, this one bit of info seems to be out there given Culwalla has it in metric in his diagrams, and random people keep shouting out exact heights.



Yeah, that is precisely the kind of info I need.
The base is 186' 8" high (20th floor, first office floor) All the office floors are 13' 4".

There, that'll get ya to the 88th floor.

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Old Posted Oct 20, 2010, 9:54 PM
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http://www.wnyc.org/articles/wnyc-news/2...op-towers-and-trip-subway-sandwich-shop/

The World Trade Center Rises: View From the Top and a Trip to the Sandwich Shop

Monday, October 18, 2010
By Stephen Nessen

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By mid-October the beams of One World Trade Center have reached the 42nd floor. The workers are getting as much work done as possible before the winter comes with the biting winds that make progress at that height very difficult. The Port Authority says workers are averaging about a floor a week as the fall turns to winter, when they expect progress to slow down.

The Empire State and Chrysler Building can be seen from the 40th floor.


A worker balances on a beam, which will be part of the 42nd floor.





The Subway sandwich shop opened in August and does a brisk lunch business. It will rise as the floors rise.
One worker said he often had no other eating options, "I don't like it, but sometimes it's the only thing you got up here.























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Old Posted Oct 20, 2010, 9:57 PM
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Most useless bit of trivia in the history of this tower: the corners chamfer (widen) 1.01 inches for every foot in elevation of the building.

Anyone else looking to model this thing (and couldn't figure it out mathematically like I did) will probably find that extremely useful. See, if all of the floors are identical, you don't have to worry about a weird unit of measurement like that, you just take the chamfer per floor and scale that up the tower (which conveniently can be automated), which is pretty much what I did with the white floors below. With the gray ones, since they all have random heights (BIG THANKS to my info hookup, you know who you are), I apply the factor calculated above to figure out the right angle, as shown in the 2nd image. The net result: A an edge mathematically accurate by 1/1000 of an inch.



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Old Posted Oct 20, 2010, 10:05 PM
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I like this one a lot, it reminds me of old pictures of original WTC construction...

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Old Posted Oct 20, 2010, 10:10 PM
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That is a nice one NYGuy.

Before ya know it that'll be an office worker looking out the window.
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 20, 2010, 10:40 PM
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also shows the sheer size of the verticle column.......
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 21, 2010, 12:03 AM
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That's just a W14x ***, a relativly small column section compaired to the columns lower down in the building.

The "jumbo columns" are W14x730 with a 6 inch thick plate welded to both sides.

(I have no idea what column line the column in the pic is on, but I think it's a W14x650. Actually I know exactly what it is, I just don't want to say.)

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Old Posted Oct 21, 2010, 12:19 AM
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hey zensteeldude, are the w-size columns going to stay the same size to the top?

by the way...i'm currently a civil engineering major...those columns are awesome!
     
     
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