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Old Posted Oct 11, 2010, 5:24 AM
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The outside construction elevator on Howe Street for the office portion has just come down.


Photo by me at 12:45 today
I don't understand why the podium isn't the same height as the old hotel. I thought the purpose of having the wide podium portion was to match somewhat with the existing building, but it looks completely different.
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Old Posted Oct 11, 2010, 6:55 AM
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Probably due to different ceiling heights - commercial office versus old hotel.
The renders show dark biege precast on the office podium - if its that olour or the same colour as around back it won't be pretty next to the deep blue glass.
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Old Posted Oct 11, 2010, 4:19 PM
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Probably due to different ceiling heights - commercial office versus old hotel.
The renders show dark biege precast on the office podium - if its that olour or the same colour as around back it won't be pretty next to the deep blue glass.
I'm not arguing that point in any way, but I WOULD like to know what colour -or range of colours - you think WOULD go well with that deep blue glass? Personally, from this far away, I can't really tell, except from pictures.
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Old Posted Oct 11, 2010, 7:03 PM
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By just a tiny, tiny bit.
I agree......if it were topped out today. Tack ten more floors on to this puppy and it will be noticed. Can we at least agree that this building is ?



Hey OD, why is this picture on an angle and has a white border? It looks like a picture within a picture.
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Old Posted Oct 11, 2010, 11:35 PM
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That's just because I only took one shot and it was crooked. I rotated it, but didn't want to crop it to square it off because it would have taken too much off the top and off the old hotel.
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Old Posted Oct 12, 2010, 2:15 AM
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I agree......if it were topped out today. Tack ten more floors on to this puppy and it will be noticed. Can we at least agree that this building is ?
Although tastes regarding this building vary, I think that the general consensus on it, when finished, is that it will be a sassy centrepoint to downtown. (and it's a whole lot smarter than that ugly box called the TD Tower as well ! !)

The Georgia is coming on, centre stage, so learn to like it.
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Wow, what a beauty, this tower is very welcome in Vancouver, hehe.

It could not be in a better location, honestly.
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Old Posted Oct 12, 2010, 5:14 AM
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Although tastes regarding this building vary, I think that the general consensus on it, when finished, is that it will be a sassy centrepoint to downtown. (and it's a whole lot smarter than that ugly box called the TD Tower as well ! !)

The Georgia is coming on, centre stage, so learn to like it.
isn't box the international style, how tastes have shifted...

van got some of the best examples of box style, and dark glassy style buildings...
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isn't box the international style, how tastes have shifted...

van got some of the best examples of box style, and dark glassy style buildings...
Tastes haven't totally shifted; many of us still like the International style -- and are quite fond of the TD Tower.
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isn't box the international style, how tastes have shifted...

van got some of the best examples of box style, and dark glassy style buildings...
In fact, no. Close to it, but no. The International Style classically includes a slightly tapered aspect, (being a little wider at the bottom than at the top, of course). The TD "box" is classified as "modern" but doesn't fit the International Style.

An example of the International style? One of the best is the Tour de la Bourse in Montreal, which is considered a classic example of the international style, and won design awards for it when it was built, way back in 1966. As you can see in the picture, it is slightly tapered, and also has slightly convex sides, which remove the straight "box" effect, and give it a softened, more elegant look. The concrete trimming also gives it definition and highlights the vertical continuity of it (47 storeys)


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Old Posted Oct 12, 2010, 6:05 PM
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In fact, no. Close to it, but no. The International Style classically includes a slightly tapered aspect, (being a little wider at the bottom than at the top, of course). The TD "box" is classified as "modern" but doesn't fit the International Style.
A 'slightly tapered aspect' isn't a defining characteristic of International Style. The TD Tower qualifies by its stark, rectilinear form, lack of ornament and functional aesthetic. As part of Pacific Centre, I think Caesar Pelli's overall design was consistent with the firm's use of glassy planes to create sculptural, massy forms, but demonstrates a departure from International Style. As far as Caesar Pelli's work, the Pacific Design Center in LA is probably the culmination of their work along these lines.

The many renovations and alterations of Pacific Centre in the past couple decades have further blurred the comparison to International Style, although the several glass box office towers protruding from the mall (especially TD) have that look.

Back on topic... the Georgia's tower exhibits some glassy planes, but while Modern, its certainly not International style.

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Old Posted Oct 12, 2010, 6:38 PM
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In Vancouver 3 towers come to mind for International Style - Electra (former BC Hydro), Guiness Tower and Oceanic Plaza. Burrard Building would have too, before the replacement of the curtain wall.
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Guinness is one of the most underrated/appreciated towers in Van IMO.
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Old Posted Oct 13, 2010, 9:21 PM
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^I think you mean't underrated/underappreciated.
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The (railings?) we were anticipating on the windows have started to go up on the north side. I imagine these won't be popular on here... My photo, today (larger size here):



Is there a practical reason for these? Or is just a design element?
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Old Posted Oct 16, 2010, 7:42 AM
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The (railings?) we were anticipating on the windows have started to go up on the north side. I imagine these won't be popular on here...

Is there a practical reason for these? Or is just a design element?
Actually as mullions go, I like these ones for some reason. It might look better as a curtain wall, but these are kind of cool.
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Old Posted Oct 16, 2010, 2:26 PM
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I agree. If it's something that isn't seen on every other condo tower being built, it's usually a good thing. Not to mention that they actually look pretty good (from that angle).
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Those arent mullions, they are decorative metal accents, which may or may not act as solar shading (they look a tad skinny to be solar shades).

The office portion of Hotel Georiga is utilizing a curtain wall so no need for typical mullions and spandrels.
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Old Posted Oct 16, 2010, 4:22 PM
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Could they be an element for added privacy, as there are so many hotels, tourists with cams, looking out their windows: "Nice skirt," that sort of thing? Practical thinking from the 'tects, I think. Has anyone done a survey of the percentage of telescope owners to residents in dwntwn Van? I know it's high, especially in Yaletown, where the stars shine every night, but they aren't in the sky! I digress. I think these accents provide added privacy, while not blocking the needed natural light. And they are 'business like'.
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