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Old Posted Aug 24, 2010, 8:37 PM
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I don't think I've ever heard 15 year old music on Sonic, Unless it is some classic Beasties... which is totally cool with me

We also have an exceptional university radio station and of course CKUA... but I am still lamenting the loss of Tongue & Groove on Saturday nights... I still think that was the best radio program for that type of music in Western Canada.. possibly all of Canada. Kevin Wilson knows how to drop beats like nobodys' business
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Old Posted Aug 24, 2010, 9:11 PM
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I don't mind listening to a little Nirvana.

At least it's not like it was on the radio in '92... ALL Nirvana ALL the time!
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Old Posted Aug 24, 2010, 9:13 PM
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Looking at their playlist: http://www.sonic1029.com/onair/playlist.jsp it seems to have a fair number of 10-15 year old songs from the likes of Pulp, Nirvana, NIN, Offspring, Gorillaz, Sublime, Moist, OLP, Sloan...
     
     
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violent femmes, Ramones...need to dig deeper and find some of The Smalls.

Noticed they have finally started playing the Black Keys.
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Old Posted Aug 24, 2010, 9:16 PM
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Noticed they have finally started playing the Black Keys.
They're arguably one of the better stations in town in terms of bringing and accepting new artists into the rotation, but they could be doing a lot more under their guise/mandate of "Modern Rock". And what stings the most is prior to the corporate buyout, they were doing it.
     
     
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Old Posted Aug 25, 2010, 5:51 PM
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Quiet day, so it is time for an anecdote:

My next door neighbor put his houese up for sale a few months ago. He was nnot the type of person who should own a house, didn't really care for the outside appearance, maintenance etc.. needless to say the place was a bit of a crap shack.

So I was really worried when he noted that his realtor was looking to buy it as an investment property.. read: cheap rental property in a central location. I'm having visions of all the awful thhings that could happen when this place gets rented to god knows who.

Well happy times, I just met my new neighbors a few days ago, young university couple who looked all over the city but decided on Parkdale because of its' centrality, affordability and ease of transit access. They're joining the community league, the 118th ave dog walking group with their new puppy and giving the old shack a makeover.

Needless to say I am very happy with this... my 'hood has made such a transformation over the past 5 years and it continues still...
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Old Posted Aug 25, 2010, 8:27 PM
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That's awesome. I've been noticing a lot of that in the Alberta Avenue area.


On a semi-related note I had someone from the neighborhood knock on my door last night with a petition for some new duplexes (maybe 4-plexes?) that are going up right now on 97Street at about 112th Ave.

It's nice to get new infill, but apparently residents got wind that they are going to be used as homes for men recovering from addiction problems who will not always be supervised and supported in these new homes. If that's the case, I'll be keeping close eyes on the place, and the first sign of shenanigans I see am calling some of my Public Health Inspector and Edmonton Police buddies to crack down on the landlords.
     
     
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Old Posted Aug 25, 2010, 10:15 PM
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EDMONTON — A proposed policy that would have seen private developers forced to pay for public art projects was killed off Wednesday at a meeting of city council’s executive committee.

The private sector “per cent for art” policy was first debated as part of the city’s Public Art Master Plan last summer.

The idea was to set out a formula whereby developers of new projects worth more than $5 million would set aside a per cent of their costs for public art.

Industry, though, didn’t like the idea. And when it came to committee last August, councillors punted it back to staff for more consideration.

On Wednesday, the proposal resurfaced, but councillors again pushed it under, this time likely for good.

“Public art is by definition public,” said Mayor Stephen Mandel, who voted against a motion to restart negotiations on the policy. “And I think if we want it, as a city, we need to pay for it ourselves.”

Mandel said the costs of any such policy would only end up being passed on to consumers, something he called “unfair.”

“They’re already paying substantial levys and substantial costs.”

Instead, Mandel wants staff to come up with ways to advertise the fact that members of the public can already donate to city-funded art projects.



Read more: http://www.edmontonjournal.com/news/Edmo...+public/3442526/story.html#ixzz0xetJgaEF

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I am quite torn on this one. I believe that a developer should only be required to contribute to public art or other public amenities in circumstances where a significant increase in density or square footage is being proposed. We already see this requirement in many of our DC2's that are proposing greater density.
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Old Posted Aug 25, 2010, 11:46 PM
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arena and related.
katz has been shopping many business/GOA/coe/ahs people to move into his new potential towers.
Arena? Tower? Both?
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Any comments on this from the SSP peanut gallery?
i can't speak for any gallery but i can share my own thoughts as they were presented to council last year:

"Mayor Mandel and Councilors,

Firstly, I would like to commend council and administration on pursuing policies to provide and encourage Art in Public Areas.

Having said that, I would also like to advise you that Policy Number C546 entitled “Percent for Art Private Sector” is fundamentally flawed in furthering this objective.

The City of Edmonton encourages support for the Food Bank. It doesn’t impose an industry specific 1% tax on Grocery Stores.

The City of Edmonton encourages greater use of Public Transit. It doesn’t impose an industry specific 1% tax on Automobile Dealerships.

The City of Edmonton encourages greater use of its parks and river valley. It doesn’t impose an industry specific 1% tax on Sporting Goods or Bicycle Stores and Ski Shops.

The City of Edmonton encourages literacy programs and library use. It doesn’t impose an industry specific 1% tax on Book Stores and newspapers.

I could go on but I hope the point has been made that if the City of Edmonton is prepared to consider imposing a blanket 1% tax for Public Art on the development industry, I believe that it is not to support a commendable objective but because we are an “easy target”. The City of Edmonton is the first to complain about senior levels of government downloading their responsibilities but this document could well be considered a blue print for that very practice.

Furthermore, it is also my belief that the implementation of this policy as presently drafted will not contribute to a higher quality urban environment for Edmontonians and will not further its professed goals.

The policy as presently drafted, is the third draft I have had an opportunity to review. The first draft was reviewed in July of 2008 and there were significant concerns communicated at that time in regard to what was drafted and how it would apply.

Anticipated changes to that draft were circulated in point form in April of 2009 and included some recognition of the industry’s initial concerns but these were received in point form only and while some concerns were recognized, they were as yet still unresolved.

The third draft – the one before you this morning – was only received on the 17th of August and is a large step backwards from the direction it was previously anticipated that would be taken. Instead, I had an opportunity to attend a single industry group meeting with the planning department two days ago to once again relay specific concerns with the objective, the mechanics and the lack of consultation being incorporated.

Despite that, it was apparently still decided to present the policy as currently drafted without industry support. It is a decision that displays a lack of respect that I find particularly frustrating and ironic in that the industry you have been unable to secure support from - an industry that you are proposing to impose a substantial discriminatory tax on – is the very industry that on an everyday basis year after year is probably one of the largest supporters of the arts in the City of Edmonton.

From my perspective, while this policy is intended to provide and encourage art in public areas, in many areas it will do exactly the opposite.

Firstly, there seems to be an underlying assumption that all developers have a secret printing press and that “just another 1%” is simply there for the asking. Well their proformas must look a lot different than mine. Our margins aren’t 100%. Our margins are more typically in the 8-10% range which means that 1% of construction costs (if they represent ¾ of the overall development cost) is roughly 7 – 10% of our margins, not “just another 1%”.

Secondly, the policy does not consider the importance of architecture and the choice of building materials and finishes and landscape design (both hard and soft surfaces) on our urban environment. This is a policy that will potentially see building materials and finishes compromised to save money that could well be spent on public art that would not even become part of the projects paying for it.

This is a policy that does not respective the talent and creativity and design capability of some of the continent’s most respected architects and interior designers and landscape and urban designers – it will exclude water features and fountains and public spaces and 40’ sculptured backlit building features because they were not “designed by an artist”.

This is a policy that considers the dollar value on an appraisal to be more important that the actual art being purchased.

This is a policy that fails to recognize the potential of acquiring substantial pieces of art on loan.

This is a policy that will not do what it is intended to do.
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i might be able to comment on the recent executive committee presentation but despite taking the time to review previous drafts (albeit at the last minute ) and despite taking time to make a presentation to executive committee last year and despite being what just might be considered a "stakeholder", i was not part of the current resurrection of this policy. as a result, it's hard for me to comment on the current resurrection but based on what i do know i am not "displeased" with the reported result.
     
     
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call vancouver, see how it is a 'win win' there with different 'commodity' transfers


just to ask for it with 'nothing in return' when both parties could benefit if done slightly differently...
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Public art should be a prerequisite or at least a component for development.

I look around Saskatoon and see what can be done in Edmonton.

If art is fully funded by the public sector it will never happen, as evidence you just have to read responses to the Journal and C2E.

I'm sitting in Iqaluit right now waiting for the fog to lift so I can get to my project. I have been trying to load a couple of Images I have from flying out of Edmonton. Mostly of the Henday interchanges at SPR and Yellowhead.

Internet is slow since its being bounced off a satellite.
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meh. If we are going to tack on costs to developments to enhance the public realm that money should be going to rebuilding sidewalks, gutters, streets, boulevards, boulevard trees, adjacent to the property.
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^^^ Great shots. Nice to see some cloverleaves.
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Old Posted Aug 26, 2010, 4:59 PM
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Thank you! The Northwest Connect website hasn't posted any updated pics in ages. Maybe you can send those to them?
     
     
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There has been a dumpster outside and workers currently gutting this building on 98 Street for the last month now:

http://www.rewedmonton.ca/content_view2?CONTENT_ID=1252


It's nice to see some of these old buildings getting some love.
     
     
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