Calgary Public Transit II - Page 32

mersar · #**621** Posted **Jun 5, 2010, 12:44 AM**

And heres some pictures of the new SD160 at the 'pad' at hayesboro. You could see through the covers a bit and they looked to be plain white as expected.

(and there is a story why theres a huge "do not hump" on both sides. "humping" is a railway term for letting 2 rail cars bump into each other after pushing one down an incline in the yard. 2 Edmonton LRV's had to be returned to Siemens as they were severely damaged by this happening and now Siemens is taking no chances as that return cost them a lot since it happened prior to delivery. While I was taking photos a couple people driving or biking slowed down to do double take, including one girl who stopped and took out her cell and took a picture of the sign.)

srperrycgy · #**622** Posted **Jun 5, 2010, 12:52 AM**

A thing of beauty.

outoftheice · #**623** Posted **Jun 5, 2010, 12:54 AM**

I'm glad you explained it!! I was going to say... I know us transit geeks find new LRVs sexy.... but not THAT sexy!!

CTrainDude · #**624** Posted **Jun 5, 2010, 1:21 AM**

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Originally Posted by mersar

They then use a front end loader like tractor that has rail wheels on it to tow it from the CP siding through the cross over in the fence onto the CT tracks, then push/pull it south into the Anderson yard and into the shop there.

I'd expect unloading either on the weekend or during mid-day early next week. It all depends on when its scheduled on CP's industrial run, it may sit over in Alyth for a couple days. The original delivery date to CT was June 10th so its currently a few days ahead of schedule.

Just for clarification, it is only towed by the tractor (or 'pettibone') from the CP spur into Haysboro Yard. Another train is brought down to Haysboro from Anderson to tow it back there. It's a lot faster that way, and doesn't really hold up any service.

I would be surprised if it was offloaded before Monday - they typically wouldn't have enough personnel on shift on weekends to do the project. That's not to say they wouldn't do it on a weekend (to prevent vandalism would be the biggest reason), but they'd be paying overtime.

McPaul · #**625** Posted **Jun 5, 2010, 1:46 AM**

...but I LIKE to hump..

Bigtime · #**626** Posted **Jun 5, 2010, 2:47 AM**

Hehe, I saw your tweet with the picture Mersar. My wife worked at CP and she expained to me what it meant before I read your post here.

Still a picture with one of use humping the LRV would be almost too good to pass up.

mersar · #**627** Posted **Jun 5, 2010, 4:50 AM**

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Originally Posted by CTrainDude

Just for clarification, it is only towed by the tractor (or 'pettibone') from the CP spur into Haysboro Yard. Another train is brought down to Haysboro from Anderson to tow it back there. It's a lot faster that way, and doesn't really hold up any service.

Isn't the coupler different though between the old ones and the new ones? I recall when 1037 arrived in Edmonton they had quite a time trying to tow it with one of their U2's since it was a completely different coupler.

MalcolmTucker · #**628** Posted **Jun 5, 2010, 2:17 PM**

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Originally Posted by mersar

Isn't the coupler different though between the old ones and the new ones? I recall when 1037 arrived in Edmonton they had quite a time trying to tow it with one of their U2's since it was a completely different coupler.

Looks like Calgary avoided the issue Edmonton had, ....

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Edmonton on the other hand:

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btw mods: etiquette for posting pictures where source is attributed right in the photo?

CTrainDude · #**629** Posted **Jun 6, 2010, 11:21 PM**

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Originally Posted by mersar

Isn't the coupler different though between the old ones and the new ones? I recall when 1037 arrived in Edmonton they had quite a time trying to tow it with one of their U2's since it was a completely different coupler.

The photos above are very good at showing the differences between ETS SD160 couplers and CT ones - the pins on our new couplers are still on the top (albeit there are different pins than the current cars), not on the sides. And when they tow new cars back to Anderson with another train, even when the couplers matched, they didn't do a complete couple - they just couple mechanically, but not electronically (the top parts never snap together like on a regular train, just hook together on the bottom). They don't want to power up the new cars until back at the garage. Basically, the brakes are released and the train is towed as dead weight back to Anderson.

srperrycgy · #**630** Posted **Jun 7, 2010, 9:42 PM**

Took a trip to the Deep South and noticed the jacks in place on the LRV with a couple of guys working on it at about noon. But with the thundershowers this afternoon, they were putting the jacks away into the storage shed when I came back up at about 2ish.

Holy Crap....I'm over 1000 posts.....only took me 6 years.

shogged · #**631** Posted **Jun 9, 2010, 1:45 AM**

so the new lrv is unwrapped and on the rails. looks like it came in full livery. pics incoming!

mersar · #**632** Posted **Jun 9, 2010, 4:36 AM**

Actually we've had reports they did the livery installation on site this afternoon in preparation for the "grand unveiling" ceremony later this week

CTrainDude · #**633** Posted **Jun 9, 2010, 2:02 PM**

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Originally Posted by mersar

Actually we've had reports they did the livery installation on site this afternoon in preparation for the "grand unveiling" ceremony later this week

Yes, it was done on site. It looks awesome, I have to say. Unfortunately, word from some around the garage is that the beams that lift the train off the rail car are too thick for this LRV - meaning that when it's lowered, the beams hit the ground before the train wheels. This isn't good - train can't be lowered onto the rails to take it off the jacks... If this is the case, they may have to put it back on the trailer until they get thinner cross beams for the jacks.

shogged · #**634** Posted **Jun 9, 2010, 2:26 PM**

MalcolmTucker · #**635** Posted **Jun 9, 2010, 2:35 PM**

^ Would that be due to a lower 'skirt' on these new cars, or is there more equipment placed on the underside of these ones?

RicoLance21 · #**636** Posted **Jun 9, 2010, 2:43 PM**

Do the new LRVs have entirely longitudinal seating?

source: http://www.ctatattler.com/2008/01/live-video-feed.html

Stang · #**637** Posted **Jun 9, 2010, 3:21 PM**

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Originally Posted by RicoLance21

Do the new LRVs have entirely longitudinal seating?

source: http://www.ctatattler.com/2008/01/live-video-feed.html

I hope so. I know that some hate it (Freeweed!), but sitting knee to knee (or knee to chair back) is far worse in my opinion. But I'm 6'1, so my legs barely fit when the seats are as close as they are.

Whenever I'm on the train I try for a seat in the middle where they're along the sides. Or I just stand.

fusili · #**638** Posted **Jun 9, 2010, 3:33 PM**

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Originally Posted by Stang

I hope so. I know that some hate it (Freeweed!), but sitting knee to knee (or knee to chair back) is far worse in my opinion. But I'm 6'1, so my legs barely fit when the seats are as close as they are.

Whenever I'm on the train I try for a seat in the middle where they're along the sides. Or I just stand.

Me too. I am 6'4" and fitting on the train sucks. Airplanes are the worst, well after South American transit vans. Longitudinal seating is a blessing for me. Then I don't have to have awkward situations where my knees have to be placed between people's legs because there is not enough room, or squished up against the back of a seat.

Stang · #**639** Posted **Jun 9, 2010, 3:45 PM**

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Originally Posted by fusili

Me too. I am 6'4" and fitting on the train sucks. Airplanes are the worst, well after South American transit vans. Longitudinal seating is a blessing for me. Then I don't have to have awkward situations where my knees have to be placed between people's legs because there is not enough room, or squished up against the back of a seat.

On a plane, if I detect that the person in front is about to recline, I brace my knees until they come to a stop against them. They think they've gone all the way, but in actual fact, I have forced them into a compromise.

Of course, emergency exit seats are great. I have told the people at work that book the flights that on WestJet, 12F is mine. That's the one with no seat in front of it.

But back on-topic about transit, I just find that any side-seating configuration tends to be more comfortable for everyone. When the train is full, the standers are more easily accommodated. When it is less full, everyone gets a seat and has plenty of leg room. And nobody has to get up to let anyone else off, etc.

mersar · #**640** Posted **Jun 9, 2010, 5:13 PM**

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Originally Posted by Sir.Humphrey.Appleby

^ Would that be due to a lower 'skirt' on these new cars, or is there more equipment placed on the underside of these ones?

Or just equipment on the underside in slightly different locations. Looking at a picture comparing the Series 8 with an older SD160 the skirting seems to go down about the same amount, the only difference seems to be on the older model the step comes below the skirting whereas on the Series 8 its flush with it, but the gap above the lower step looks shorter as well.