Someone here recently said that despit the greenery and modernity, Coal Harbour remains rather "dead" and univiting.
What about a facility for "tall ships?" Wouldn't they add a touch of Something to the harbour?? San Francisco has them along the Embarcadero, although I think those are ships that historically served the city in its early years.
Where could one find two or three big ships à la Cutty Sark for Coal Harbour?
Someone here recently said that despit the greenery and modernity, Coal Harbour remains rather "dead" and univiting.
The only people that think Coal Harbour is dead or slow are the ones that don’t live here. I look over the CH Marina and there is a steady flow of Mega Yachts all summer long, here to explore the Salish Sea and up to Alaska.
Kind of like Monaco on a smaller scale. There will also be additional moorage in front the Convention Centre that should accommodate more huge yachts.
The only people that think Coal Harbour is dead or slow are the ones that don’t live here. I look over the CH Marina and there is a steady flow of Mega Yachts all summer long, here to explore the Salish Sea and up to Alaska.
Kind of like Monaco on a smaller scale. There will also be additional moorage in front the Convention Centre that should accommodate more huge yachts.
That's good to hear. I guess I was just dreaming when I imagined one or two of the great tall ships permanently moored on the Vancouver waterfront .... they lend such a feeling of old-world maritime adventure ..........
And I agree, I have never found Coal Harbour to be dead, in fact I really enjoy walking around that area from the Convention Centres to Stanley Park, even more so than Yaletown.
That's good to hear. I guess I was just dreaming when I imagined one or two of the great tall ships permanently moored on the Vancouver waterfront .... they lend such a feeling of old-world maritime adventure ..........
its dead in the sense that there isn't much retail in the area - its better now in the last few years - urban fare, shoppers drug mart, 7-11 have all opened and people don't have to leave the area to shop for basics
the seawall is usually heavy with foot traffic - it can still be quiet at times which is nice when you wanna get away from people
Correct, the addition of those commercial amenities has helped the neighbourhood to be more sustainable.
There are also 5 Bars/Lounges on the seawall between the Park and the Convention Centre.
I believe Canada’s only Tall Ship (S/V Concordia) sank earlier this year in South America.
But for eye candy, there are lots of 180 plus foot charter sailing ships that call CH a regular port of call.
its dead in the sense that there isn't much retail in the area - its better now in the last few years - urban fare, shoppers drug mart, 7-11 have all opened and people don't have to leave the area to shop for basics
And WPP will augment this with additional retail in its podium. Anybody know or care to guess what it will be?
It looks like they didn't have the money to wrap the whole thing in curtain wall. If they are financially restricted to window-wall on the south side, at least make the mullions dark. Or, if they wanted to emphasise the separation of the folded "prow"... here's a quick sketch of what I think would have been a better solution:
I know it looks like plywood boarded over windows, but they're supposed to be louvers (logical since it's the southwest facade). Could be aluminum instead of wood, and probably a lot thinner in profile, but you get the idea. Plus it'll match the horizontal-banded concrete. Whatever it takes to get away from the standard grey windowwall...
^Normally I wouldn't mind that idea but in this case I prefer the actual plan which is to have LED lighting over the concrete. I can't recall if I saw the rendering of it here or somewhere else but it is going to look great at night and should add some much needed visual interest to the area.
It looks like they didn't have the money to wrap the whole thing in curtain wall. If they are financially restricted to window-wall on the south side, at least make the mullions dark.
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here's another interesting tidbit from the DP report;
Staff Assessment: A comprehensive submission of detailed drawings describes how this sophisticated architectural design will be implemented. The Urban Design Panel raised a concern about the mix of curtain wall and window wall systems. Staff agree that attempting to blend these two glazing systems will confuse the sculptural strength of the design and that a singular approach of all-curtain wall be pursued. In addition, the judicious introduction of colour elements into the design should be considered, perhaps with highlighted spandrel or other non-vision glass elements. (Condition 1.5)
^Normally I wouldn't mind that idea but in this case I prefer the actual plan which is to have LED lighting over the concrete. I can't recall if I saw the rendering of it here or somewhere else but it is going to look great at night and should add some much needed visual interest to the area.
^Normally I wouldn't mind that idea but in this case I prefer the actual plan which is to have LED lighting over the concrete. I can't recall if I saw the rendering of it here or somewhere else but it is going to look great at night and should add some much needed visual interest to the area.
If they really intend to attach lighting, why did they make the concrete textured? Do they intend to insert individual light tubes into the grooves?
For the record, I have never seen any renders which depict lighting on the concrete walls.
Last edited by Prometheus; Jun 12, 2010 at 3:21 AM.
The solid cores at the two towers will be animated by the introduction of a random horizontal pattern in the concrete achieved by a series of reveals. It is planned to further activate the patterned core walls with an LED cove lighting system running the height of the building that will further accentuate the texture of this wall. It is being considered that this lighting system may be further developed to react to external inputs that will result in changing the colour and pattern of the light and that this may become the project’s public art contribution. http://vancouver.ca/commsvcs/planning/dpboard/2007/PDF/1499WestPenderSt-DE411520.pdf
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... I guess I was dreaming .....
Thanks for the pics SFU!
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