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Old Posted Apr 7, 2010, 5:57 PM
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Wow, that's a lot of rumors

I recall condos being mentioned (SP quoted someone...the new owners or a councilor). I thought Petland was on its way out too?

Confederation Mall has been slowly going downhill. It peaked in the mid to late 90s IMO. Condos FTW
     
     
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Old Posted Apr 7, 2010, 6:03 PM
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I don't think I've heard many of those rumours. Although I think London Drugs would probably be the best fit. I guarantee Home Depot and Canadian Tire won't be moving in.
     
     
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My first thought was that it may make reference to our Coat of Arms.

I do like the regal look of it.


Ah, good thought Jerry... I hadn't considered our coat of arms. But you're right, it definitely has some regality to it!

I took a look around the Uptown Market this morning and think it has a pleasant and airy layout. However, I had pictured in my mind a space that was much larger. The space they do have is by no means "crammed" with product - there is a lot of room in there to expand the business and product lines as they go!

On a more random note, I was thinking about the South Caswell Concept Plan and how it might unfold in the coming years. I think it would be a great branding/marketing tool to re-name that portion of the Caswell Hill to differentiate it as its own distinctive district. And I thought, instead of "South Caswell," what about "SoCa" for a name?? It's unique, sounds urban, funky... directly inspired of course by NYC's "SoHo." Kind of a cool idea, I think?
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All these damn hipsters in their trendy SoCa lofts.
     
     
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Old Posted Apr 8, 2010, 12:53 AM
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Damn them and their 22nd Street scene.
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Old Posted Apr 8, 2010, 7:28 AM
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I've heard that SoCa rebranding idea before...or maybe it was a dream, or possibly in a City document, or some blog...I can't remember now. Anyways, aside from being a complete rip-off of SoHo, I don't think it's a terrible idea. I agree that it should be marketed differently than the rest of Caswell Hill.
     
     
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Old Posted Apr 8, 2010, 8:19 AM
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I love the SoCa idea.

I came across an interesting site, called the Bridge Citizen. Anyone familiar with it? Someone from this thread definitely could have written this page. It's got some great points/ideas.

The man behind it all, Craig Leontowicz. What awesome local talent! Check out his blog, Facebook fanpage, portfolio etc. You'll definitely recognize his work from around town.

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Old Posted Apr 8, 2010, 8:48 AM
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Cool links dsim249!

The Bridge Citizen is you isn't it? (there's that zip line idea again...stealin' kgc's thunder).
     
     
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I spotted a Google Streetview car parked near Preston and 8th this morning. They may be revising some of their footage, "filling in the blanks" in streetview as it were. It would be nice if they would record Saskatoon when the city doesn't look like a shitty dirt heap.
     
     
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South Caswell and other things.

Called me biased, but I don't see a need to rename and or market South Caswell as anything else. Let the development (whenever it starts, which is probably still years away) stand for itself.

Of note:

For Lease signs are up on all floors of the Arthur C. Cook building, they went up sometime last week.

A question:

has anyone heard or seen any work getting underway for the 25th St. extension? There was supposed to be infrastructure ground work completed last summer and the actual road being constructed this summer; however, I don't recall seeing anything last year.
     
     
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Not sure if this has been mentioned here, but I heard the SaskPower building on 22nd and 4th needs to be torn down.
     
     
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Yeah, I don't like the idea of marketing something like "SoCa"... it sounds so contrived and gimmicky. Call it what it is, Caswell Hill, and the whole neighbourhood could benefit... not just a few blocks of it.

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Called me biased, but I don't see a need to rename and or market South Caswell as anything else. Let the development (whenever it starts, which is probably still years away) stand for itself.
     
     
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Did another photo thread, this time of downtown.
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=180565
     
     
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Off topic, but the "before and after" weight loss banner add that frequently appears in the top left corner really has me freaked out. Is it a woman with a hariy torso and manly hands or a scrawny man wearing pink patterned pyjamas? Either way yuck!
     
     
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Sustainable Transportation Open House

Just got this email from Rivergreen Ecovillage Team for those that are interested. Hey there is even cookies.

Speaking of transit I wonder when our new buses arive.


Hello,

We are holding another open house and learning session. Since spring is on its way people want to get out and about and enjoy the weather, this month’s open house is on Sustainable Transportation. Come and hear Kevin Sturgeon from the city of Saskatoon Transit, and Amber Jones from Road map Saskatoon give short talks about ways in which we can be active and help protect the environment at the same time.

Stop by on Saturday, April 17th, 2010 from 10:00a.m-1:00p.m at the Rivergreen Ecovillage office by the Farmers' Market at #114-120 Sonnenschein Way. The door is on the southwest corner of the building on the 400 block of Avenue B South.

This event is free. Everyone is welcome! Cookies and Juice provided

Best wishes

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What is the latest development scheduled for this site? Still a hotel? any renders?
Still a hotel, still the same rendering.



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Called me biased, but I don't see a need to rename and or market South Caswell as anything else. Let the development (whenever it starts, which is probably still years away) stand for itself.

Of note:

For Lease signs are up on all floors of the Arthur C. Cook building, they went up sometime last week.

A question:

has anyone heard or seen any work getting underway for the 25th St. extension? There was supposed to be infrastructure ground work completed last summer and the actual road being constructed this summer; however, I don't recall seeing anything last year.
As drm310 said, SoCa is kind of gimmicky (rip off of SoHo...and all other variations). The alternative to 'branding' would be to just let the area organically develop its own identity.

Distinguishing one part of Caswell Hill from another with different names/brands/identities is only natural. CH is too large and diverse of an area to lump things together. Look at the relationship Nutana has with Broadway, conflict included. A similar thing will occur with CH, but to a lesser degree because the community's existing residents were engaged during the planning process.

On your second point:

I saw an excavator a month or so ago that may have been working on it. Someone should go scale the fence and report back

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Not sure if this has been mentioned here, but I heard the SaskPower building on 22nd and 4th needs to be torn down.
That's good to hear. We'll need a piece of land to replace the surface parking we just lost to the Holiday Inn.

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Off topic, but the "before and after" weight loss banner add that frequently appears in the top left corner really has me freaked out. Is it a woman with a hariy torso and manly hands or a scrawny man wearing pink patterned pyjamas? Either way yuck!
I think belly hair disappears when women lose a couple pounds...just a theory.

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Did another photo thread, this time of downtown.
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=180565
Great photos, looking forward to your next group. Saskatoon is great for scenes to photograph.
     
     
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What's the new building going up on College Drive kitty corner from the new expansion at the university? It looks like it might be condos, but I haven't read anything about them before.

So far it's an all concrete building, and it looks like they'll have a moderate sized underground parking lot (though it's hard to say at this stage of construction without knowing more about the building). If I remember my camera I'll take a few pictures of the site on Saturday while walking to work.
     
     
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What's the new building going up on College Drive kitty corner from the new expansion at the university? It looks like it might be condos, but I haven't read anything about them before.

So far it's an all concrete building, and it looks like they'll have a moderate sized underground parking lot (though it's hard to say at this stage of construction without knowing more about the building). If I remember my camera I'll take a few pictures of the site on Saturday while walking to work.
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From Monday's council agenda. 11 million for the land now - what are these people smoking?

Section G - CITY MANAGER
GI) River Landing Parcel "Y"

RECOMMENDATION: that at the direction of City Council, Administration be authorized to negotiate a Sale Agreement with Lake Placid River Landing Inc.
for Parcel 'Y'and the lane, or pursue a Request for Proposals
process for the site.

BACKGROUND

On January 14, 2008, the City and Lake Placid River Landing Inc. (Lake Placid) entered into a
Sale Agreement for Parcel "Y", a site located in River Landing. The purpose of the Agreement
was to facilitate the construction on Parcel 'Y" of a very specific development which had been
proposed by Lake Placid through a Request for Proposals (RFP) process. Lake Placid
subsequently purchased the adjoining lane kom the City and obtained the necessary approvals to
proceed with the construction of the specified development. However, the Sale Agreement
ended on October 30, 2009, because the necessary hancial payment under the Agreement was
not forthcoming.
On November 23,2009, the Executive Committee instructed the Administration to bring forward
a new RFP process for Parcel 'Y', including new appraisals of the land. The Administration
was planning to bring this forward by the end of April 2010.
On March 22,2010, Mr. Michael Lobsinger, on behalf of Lake Placid, came to City Council and
requested that the City " ... re-open the purchase and sale agreement for Parcel 'Y" and lane,
which has expired." The intent of the request, as understood by the Administration, is to
facilitate the construction of the same development on Parcel "Y" as was proposed in 2008.
Mr. Lobsinger was supported in his request to Council by Dr. Karim Nasser. Council was
advised by Mr. Lobsinger that Lake Placid had executed an agreement with Dr. Nasser's
company, Victory Majors Investments Corporation "... for the purposes of developing River
Landing." Dr. Nasser confirmed that their purpose was to build the original development project
submitted by Lake Placid.
The requests of Mr. Lobsinger and Dr. Nasser were referred to the Administration for a report
back to City Council.

REPORT

City Council has before it a request to "re-open" the original Lake Placid Agreement and
development for Parcel 'Y". It also (through Executive Committee) has asked the
Administration to bring forward a new RFP process. These two requests cannot occur concurrently. In particular, once City Council starts an RFP process, it is legally required to
follow through with that process.
As a result, the Administration requires instruction iYom City Council as to whether, at this time,
City Council wishes to:
a) proceed with a new RFP process; or,
b) instruct the Administration to enter into negotiations with Lake Placid for the
purchase and development of Parcel 'Y" and the lane. This latter instruction would
include a financial due diligence process as set out below.
If the instruction is to bring forward a new RFP, the contents thereof will be included in that
report.
If the instruction is to negotiate with Lake Placid, the following are some of the main
components of that negotiation as anticipated by the Administration.
The Development
As mentioned, it is the Administration's understanding that the purpose of the Agreement would
be to facilitate the construction of the same development on Parcel 'Y" and the lane, as was
proposed in the January 2008 Agreement. This development has been approved by both City
Council and the Meewasin Valley Authority.
The Purchase Price
The purchase price for Parcel "Y' in 2008 was $4.765 million. The price for the lane was
$475,494.21. As instructed by the Executive Committee, the Administration has obtained new
appraisals for Parcel 'Y' from two separate companies.
The appraisal reports completed by Suncorp Valuations Ltd. and Beatty Appraisal and
Consulting Ltd. resulted in an estimate of value for Parcel 'Y" within a narrow range of $98 per
square foot to $110 per square foot. If these appraisals were used, the price average value
between the two appraisals is approximately $104 per square foot which would result in a
purchase price of $11 million. If City Council wished to look at the appraisals in more detail,
your Administration recommends the appraisal report be referred to the Executive Committee for
review and the appraisers be invited to the meeting to discuss their market research and rationale
for the estimates.

The Deposit

The original deposit made by Lake Placid for Parcel 'Y" was $250,000. This, together with
accrued interest, was forfeited to the City on October 30,2009.
The Construction Requirement and Option to Purchase
The original Agreement provided that the City was specifically selling the land for the purpose
of having constructed thereon, the specific development proposed by Lake Placid and approved
by the City and Meewasin Valley Authority. If that development did not occur in a timely
manner, the land was to be returned to the City.
In furtherance of this objective, the Agreement provided that a specific stage in the construction
had to be completed by a specific date. If Lake Placid failed to meet that requirement, the City
had the option of repurchasing the land for the same amount as was paid, less encumbrances. If
the Administration is instructed to negotiate a similar agreement to sell the land for the purpose
of facilitating the development of the same project, a similar construction requirement and option
to purchase would be necessary.
LEEDS and Limitations on Sale or Transfer
The original Agreement provided that "... Lake Placid will not undertake accreditation under the
LEED program; however, Lake Placid will use reasonable efforts to construct the development
to a standard that would match the minimum certification level had the development been
submitted for accreditation." The Agreement also contained provisions to prevent Lake Placid
from divesting itself of the majority ownership of the land until construction of the approved
development was complete.
If the Administration was instructed to negotiate a new agreement similar to the old Agreement,
we would expect to include the same or similar provisions.
Financial Due Diligence
From the beginning, the goal of City Council has been to not sell Parcel 'Y' or permit the
beginning of construction on the land, unless the City is satisfied that the purchaser has the
wherewithal to complete the entire development project. The Administration assumes that that
goal continues.
As a result, if the Administration is instructed to negotiate with Lake Placid, we would be
proposing to include in those negotiations a hancial due diligence process. We have taken the precaution of confirming with our outside auditors, Deloitte & Touche Inc., that they would be
able and willing to assist us in this process if required. Your Administration, and representatives
fiom Deloitte & Touche Inc., met with Mr. Lobsinger and Dr. Nasser on Wednesday,
April 7,2010. Mr. Lobsinger and Dr. Nasser, as an act of good faith, provided documentation
for review by Deloitte & Touche Inc. They indicated their willingness to provide further details
as required by the outside auditors.
     
     
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