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Old Posted Feb 23, 2010, 7:16 PM
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You can see the footprint of the original right next to #1. I think it's 8' smaller than the actual building was, but it's close.
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 23, 2010, 7:41 PM
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if it's 200x200 ft at the base, how much will it be at roof height? from the design, it seems like the building shrinks as it rises, like 150x150 ft at the top?
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Old Posted Feb 23, 2010, 8:21 PM
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Old Posted Feb 23, 2010, 8:47 PM
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Once finished, I remember hearing that the base will be 205' by 205' Zeensteeldude said if I remember correctly.
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Old Posted Feb 23, 2010, 9:56 PM
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The originals were 208' x 208'

An acre is 43,560 sq. ft.

The square root of 43,560 is 208'

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Old Posted Feb 23, 2010, 11:53 PM
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1WTC is about the same size as the original twins, approx. 200' x 200'.
At the base it is, but it tapers such that the roof has a much smaller baseplate.
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 24, 2010, 12:54 AM
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The Twins were 212' square all the way up (rounded off to the nearest foot), Tower One well be 205' square at the 20th floor. ( current top of steel)

Tower One well be 144' square at the top of the parapet, a square rotated 45 degrees from the base of course.

All measurements are to the outside of the curtain wall or cladding. ( Overall outside dimension)

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Old Posted Feb 24, 2010, 12:59 AM
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Your drawing is perfect, but is to the center of the columns.

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Old Posted Feb 24, 2010, 4:35 AM
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With construction where it is and with all the plans and renderings, I am really getting excited for this one! When it is done, those of us in NYC or who plan to visit should make a huge push to be amongst the very first to visit the observatory!
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Old Posted Feb 24, 2010, 10:01 PM
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No one bite my head off here, but i have thought this for some time....to me One World Trade Centre seems small. By that i mean floorplate size. I am only comparing it to the buildings around it - the World Financial Center Towers, 7 World Trade Center etc...there is no denying that it will be tall and apparently fairly skinny, it will definitely soar. I just remember pictures of the Twins before and thinking that they are not only tall but massive buildings. Maybe the pictures just don't do it's size (width) justice, but it is just my observation.

To put this in perspective, this building is 48-feet farther across at its widest point than a football field is wide, meaning that it extends about from the first row of seats to the opposite first row of seats in the average stadium.

I agree that the base seems dwarfed in the image you were referring to, which is very deceptive based on both the distance of the building's base and the size of the surrounding buildings and the site in general. Envision a football stadium next to the tower base in the image and you get a sense of the scale of all the buildings in this area.

You can see the footprints of the old WTC in the image and they aren't any bigger.
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 25, 2010, 12:52 AM
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If you feel One World Trade Center's Footprint is too small in pictures, you may want to go down to the Tower itself and see just how massive the footprint really is. Not to bring up bad memories but when the South Tower collapsed on 9/11 and the North Tower was left standing it didn't look so massive anymore because it was just One Tower. What I'm trying to say is because there were Two Towers we got used to them and it gave off a massive effect. Freedom Tower is big enough. It looks much bigger in person trust me. This has got to be the greatest project currently going on in Manhattan right now not only because it will be the tallest, but it will change our skyline for the best.
     
     
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This is something you need to experience for yourself if you ever get the opportunity to do so. Judging by some of the pictures there are different perspectives that are given off which could in turn make the base seem on the smaller side in some cases. Inaccurate in reality, as the base is quite large and very much mirrors the base area of the former towers.
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The Freedom Tower is smaller, relatively speaking, than a lot of New York office buildings because the floorplates are smaller (obviously). The floorspace is pushed "up" rather than "out" for obvious reasons. But it is more massive and higher than the base of a typical NY tower. Compare that photo to renderings, and you can see why it would appear "small".

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Originally, the PAC was planned as a part of Freedom Tower's base, which would have made it larger, but that later evolved into a separate entity.

Another, older aerial of the base...

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Its amazing how fat the World Financial Center towers look in the photo compared to 7 WTC, 1 WTC and even the new Goldman Sachs tower. Interesting angle for sure!
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 25, 2010, 4:21 AM
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^ That also has a lot to do with the angle. Check the other aerial above.


Sit in on the Port Authority board meeting, interesting WTC updates...
http://www.panynj.gov/corporate-information/board-meeting-videos.html
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Even though I realize the base of the FT is every bit as huge as that of the old Twins, so far it just doesn't seem as massive. Maybe that will change once the whole tower is standing.
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Old Posted Feb 25, 2010, 9:26 PM
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Tall height = smaller floor plates. We’re not used to seeing that in this day of age (in the Western World), so naturally what we’re seeing can be deemed ‘out of the norm’. This one isn’t stopping at 700’. One can even say that this is the reason why office buildings aren’t regularly built to these heights anymore. This case is different, and perhaps the last opportunity to see this kind of construction in an American city.
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Yeah! I noticed how skinny the tower is gonna be compared to rest of the skyscrapers surrounding it! Its base actually isn't very large! This tower is gonna looks freakin tall!
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Lookin at the east side...Is Big Red gone?
     
     
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Lookin at the east side...Is Big Red gone?
Lookin at the east side on what, exactly? Cause you can't see 🞵🞵🞵🞵 on either of the cams.
     
     
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