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Old Posted Dec 10, 2009, 5:19 PM
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3. Sask Plac...errr Credit Union Centre is in a stupid location. This is one of my biggest reasons for not going. It pretty much requires you to drive and it's not a short drive. Had our city put the stadium downtown, I think things may be much different.
Would LRT to the stadium help? I think I would go a lot more if it was a short 10 min train ride...
     
     
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I'm a huge hockey fan, but haven't been to a Blades game in years. While I can't speak for everyone, these are my main reasons:

1. Ticket prices. It's around $20 a ticket per game. Maybe it is because I'm a student, but this seems a little high to me. For a family to go and get some snacks, you're probably looking at around $80-100. For entertainment purposes, a movie is probably a cheaper option.

2. Lack of marketing. I don't think the Blades market themselves that great. I bet most people don't even know they're first place. Similarly, I think they should market their top players and guys who will be in the NHL. Some big name players as of lately have played for us (Mike Green, Devin Setoguchi) that could likely draw a crowd. You see this with the London Knights...everyone wanted to see Tavaras and Kadri, etc.

3. Sask Plac...errr Credit Union Centre is in a stupid location. This is one of my biggest reasons for not going. It pretty much requires you to drive and it's not a short drive. Had our city put the stadium downtown, I think things may be much different.
A few notes on this:

-$20 is a bit high for prices...$17.90 according to TM for tickets...and that's pretty standard for prices in the WHL...the Raiders up in PA, for instance have tickets @ 16, not including any fees. This follows what has been a fairly steady trend in the past where a WHL ticket is a bit more than a movie ticket. The Blades also have ticket deals such as mini packs for about $12 a game, and a deal on the 16th where tickets are only $5.

-The Blades could perhaps market the players a bit more (Regina I think does well with this with their top stars right now) but usually this sort of publicity comes out of events like the World Juniors, and nobody from the Blades has done really well on that particular stage.

-The location arguments about SP/CUC has really baffled/frustrated me since the building opened. It's about 40 blocks from the downtown core. In a lot of places, this is still considered the 'inner core' of the city. As far as having to drive is concerned, transit does go out to every Blades game from downtown, and bus passes etc are accepted.

So jas...given this information...going to go out to the game on the 16th?
     
     
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After looking at this: http://www.mib.org/~lennier/hockey/att.cgi, 2009-10 Junior League Hockey Attendance I suppose the Blades aren't drawing all that badly. Why is the NAHL and USHL included in these averages chart when the level of those two leagues is at the same or less than the SJHL, MJHL, AJHL and BCJHL?
     
     
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Old Posted Dec 10, 2009, 8:02 PM
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^^^^

I've been to a couple games this year.

When it's -35 it's tough to get people to leave the house. I think this is the main reason there was only 3,500 people there last night.

Nonetheless, it's great hockey.
     
     
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Old Posted Dec 10, 2009, 8:15 PM
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A few notes on this:

-$20 is a bit high for prices...$17.90 according to TM for tickets...and that's pretty standard for prices in the WHL...the Raiders up in PA, for instance have tickets @ 16, not including any fees. This follows what has been a fairly steady trend in the past where a WHL ticket is a bit more than a movie ticket. The Blades also have ticket deals such as mini packs for about $12 a game, and a deal on the 16th where tickets are only $5.

-The Blades could perhaps market the players a bit more (Regina I think does well with this with their top stars right now) but usually this sort of publicity comes out of events like the World Juniors, and nobody from the Blades has done really well on that particular stage.

-The location arguments about SP/CUC has really baffled/frustrated me since the building opened. It's about 40 blocks from the downtown core. In a lot of places, this is still considered the 'inner core' of the city. As far as having to drive is concerned, transit does go out to every Blades game from downtown, and bus passes etc are accepted.

So jas...given this information...going to go out to the game on the 16th?
Perhaps this shows much of the marketing side. I had no idea tickets were $5 on the 16th. To be honest, it does sound pretty tempting to me
     
     
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A few notes on this:

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-The location arguments about SP/CUC has really baffled/frustrated me since the building opened. It's about 40 blocks from the downtown core. ...
What I heard at the time, and remember that I can't prove this, was that the mayor at the time owned significant parcels of land at or very near to the SP/CUC site. And if I am not mistaken, his construction company actually built it.

If anyone knows otherwise, please feel free to correct me.
     
     
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Speaking of Sask Place/CUC, wasn't the LED "ring" supposed to go all the way around the building? They only have it on the ends of the area. I think it looks pretty cool as is, but I seem to recall that it was supposed to go all the way around as a feature of the addition of the seats on the previously empty end.
     
     
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Old Posted Dec 11, 2009, 5:21 PM
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Speaking of Sask Place/CUC, wasn't the LED "ring" supposed to go all the way around the building?
Nope, it was always just the ends.
     
     
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I just moved here from Winnipeg and have gone to most of the blades games which i think the whl hockey is great to watch better then the boring ahl in winnipeg. The one thing i would hope for when it comes to sports here in Saskatoon is that the city builds a ball park to attract a minor pro team like Winnipeg. The Winnipeg Goldeyes have a beautiful park and it is nice sitting on a Sunday afternoon catching a tan and watching some ball. The northern league which Wpg plays out of is good quality of baseball and the league always seems to send a handfull of players each year to the majors.
     
     
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I think Saskatoon has gone through a number of minor pro baseball teams. I remember the Riot from way back, the Stallions, and I know there was a few since as well. I think that league may have folded though. Anyways, they played at Bob Van Impe ballpark.
     
     
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Letter to Council

I sent council this letter regarding the Arthur Cook building, thought you would all like to give it a read.

Dear Council, I have been following the Arthur Cook building quite carefully since you have put out a call for proposals. I am very impressed to see three excellent proposals for the preservation and reinterpretation of this building. I have no formal training in the redevelopment and rejuvenation of older neighbourhoods but have researched enough cities to understand what is required to create a strong, prosperous community. Integral buildings, such as the Arthur Cook, are vital to the rejuvenation of these areas. They represent the cities heritage as well as the cities continual prosperity by having a new face in the modern day.

My personal vision for Saskatoon’s warehouse district is an area consisting of mid-rise buildings adhering to strict architectural codes which keep them within the constraints of a traditional warehouse with the occasional post modern twist. This area would be a haven for art, cuisine, nightlife, boutique shopping and mid-high income single and family living. It would be very pedestrian oriented as well as very green. Every building would either have a street garden or rooftop garden. Tree lined roadways complimented with traditional lighting will also help create a heritage ambience. This will add to the continued vibrancy and wealth of the neighbourhood.

By allowing for venues that are able to operate around the clock, an uptown urban environment will be created. Many Canadian cities are viewed as boring on a global standard, by allowing for the creation of more nightlife within this district Saskatoon will be able to successfully position itself as an exciting city for people to live and play in. This will aid our tourism industry as well secure newcomers. Only one proposal for the Arthur Cook building really addressed these issues and integrated them in to their design.

Shift Developments proposal offers a fresh expression of architecture and redevelopment unseen in Saskatoon. They retain the full heritage of the building but modernize it with a green roof. Saskatoon is positioned to become the greenest city in Canada. We do not suffer from any of the growing pains of the larger centers and have a strong economy that smaller cities lack. By encouraging and eventually making it mandatory to have green roofs Saskatoon could very easily develop a unique national and international identity for its green architecture.

Shift also is offering services which are available almost 24 hours a day. By allowing for retail and restaurant-nightlife space Shift will encourage a constant stream of people. This is the first step in creating a vibrant urban core. By having a constant flow of people the city will maintain a certain energy which is so desired in the urban environment. As well Shift maintains the heritage of this building creating a very specific atmosphere which is often lost in warehouse districts with the over modernization of the structure.

Saskatoon is ready to begin its transformation from a small prairie city to a vibrant, green cosmopolitan area. Saskatoon is young and has the opportunity to create an identity for itself not yet seen in Canada or North America. By pursuing such a bold course we would gain massive tourism, business and cultural benefits. Make the right decision, Shift Developments.

Thank you.
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Old Posted Dec 13, 2009, 12:23 AM
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This one from yesterdays business pages slipped under the radar, but is, in my mind, pretty big stuff. The Professional Services Building on 21st is in for a long overdue face lift:

Hitting the heights

By Peter Wilson,
The StarPhoenixDecember 11, 2009

Orion Morgan is only 29, but after a decade spent constructing homes in the city he felt ready to add a new challenge to his life.

The founder and president of Urban Oasis Homes, Morgan has purchased the former J.H.C. Willoughby Building at 129 21st St. East in Saskatoon's downtown.

It's been more than a year since Morgan put an offer on the building, but he only recently found out his $1.2-million proposal had been accepted.

"I was very happy to hear that I had acquired it. It was a reasonable price and it fits in with my plans and hopes for the future," Morgan said as he toured his latest project.

A number of retail stores and professional businesses are tenants in the century-old building, although there is some lease space available, Morgan said.

The top floor is undergoing extensive demolition work, but the views looking down on 21st Street and across Saskatoon's downtown skyline are impressive.

This is the floor where his company's new offices will be located and is the start of a half-million-dollar renovation project that will see many improvements. Included in the plans is a new facade this summer to replace the dated 1960s exterior.

Renamed Urban Oasis Tower, the structure is just 40 feet wide and 50 feet deep. The building has a small footprint compared to other older high-rise buildings downtown.

"I like to say that it's the tallest, skinniest building in the neighbourhood," Morgan said, laughing.

Started in residential construction

A rising star on Saskatoon's home building landscape, Morgan is no stranger to the city's boom in residential construction. Urban Oasis entries in recent Saskatoon Parades of Homes have garnered praise, along with a corresponding increase in sales success.

Now building about a dozen mid-range-priced homes a year, and with a growing staff, he is expanding his focus to include commercial real estate.

While the young entrepreneur has followed Saskatoon's rising construction sector, his newest purchase reflects one of Saskatoon's earlier boom times. The block has had numerous owners through the years and bore a few different names, although for many years it was known as the Grain Building. Before its latest sale, its moniker was the Professional Services Building.

Morgan believes construction of the six-storey building might have begun around 1906, although he believes it wasn't fully completed until 1910.

"If that's correct, next year will mark the building's 100th birthday," he said.

It was originally named for its builder, Dr. John Henry Charles Willoughby, who also happened to be Saskatoon's first physician, first postmaster and first storekeeper.

Willoughby lived through perhaps what was Saskatchewan's most tumultuous historical period, being drafted in the spring of 1885 into the military field hospital corps caring for wounded militia during the Northwest Rebellion.

He testified for the Crown at Louis Riel's trial later that same year.

This early pioneer's family home was used as St. Paul's Hospital and stood on the site of the present-day hospital. Willoughby quit medicine and took up real estate development. He successfully ran in Saskatoon's municipal elections in 1907 and became a member of the Board of Trade. He also owned the Phenix, a local newspaper.

For a man who operated his first store out of a tent, Willoughby came a long way in the city.

While never operating his own business from under canvas, the enthusiastic Morgan has some familiarity with his early predecessor's humble beginnings.

"When I started building homes, my office was in a small corner of the basement," Morgan said. "But I suppose everyone has to start somewhere."

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I just moved here from Winnipeg and have gone to most of the blades games which i think the whl hockey is great to watch better then the boring ahl in winnipeg. The one thing i would hope for when it comes to sports here in Saskatoon is that the city builds a ball park to attract a minor pro team like Winnipeg. The Winnipeg Goldeyes have a beautiful park and it is nice sitting on a Sunday afternoon catching a tan and watching some ball. The northern league which Wpg plays out of is good quality of baseball and the league always seems to send a handfull of players each year to the majors.
First off ... where do you think the Moose players come from??
They are mostly high draft picks of the Canucks, many of whom come from Canadian junior hockey teams.

Second... I completely agree Saskatoon should work at landing a professional baseball team, although Calgary was unable to support its Northern League team. Of course the league has stadium requirements, which would require Saskatoon building a ball park capable of holding something like 5000 people. With that said it is a great draw for Winnipeg's downtown and could attract thousands to downtown Saskatoon ~25 times each summer.

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First off ... where do you think the Moose players come from??
They are mostly high draft picks of the Canucks, many of whom come from Canadian junior hockey teams.

Second... I completely agree Saskatoon should work at landing a professional baseball team, although Calgary was unable to support its Northern League team. Of course the league has stadium requirements, which would require Saskatoon building a ball park capable of holding something like 5000 people. With that said it is a great draw for Winnipeg's downtown and could attract thousands to downtown Saskatoon ~25 times each summer.

Nice Photoshopping on the colour of the Red River!
     
     
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Kind of an interesting article in the Star Phoenix today with the city being 'critical' of the Farmers Market (whose lease is coming up for renewal). The city indicates the FM is not living up to its lease agreement of being open 5 days a week. I can't believe this was ever a criteria in the first place, as that seem a bit over optimistic at this point for the FM. The FM rep made a good point that without other developments in that area of Riverlanding, they are kind of an isolated island. They specifically mention that when they signed the lease, the city had indicated the Eco-Village would be constructed in 2009.

What ever happened to the Eco-Village, this forward thinking green initiative??? It was such a good idea and from what I recall had a backlog of interested buyers! I agree with the FM folks, that more needs to be developed in that area before we can expect them to be a full time venture.
     
     
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The Eco-Village is still on track and is pursuing the required approvals.

And it looks great.
     
     
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^Do you know of any recent renderings of the Eco-Village available online? I've checked their site but they don't have anything more recent than the sketches done in the design charrette back in April 08.
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Nothing that I know of online.

Sorry to tease but the new designs look really good.
     
     
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