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Old Posted Nov 16, 2009, 10:18 PM
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For all of you on this LED bandwagon...check this out!

http://www.theneongroup.org/images/LEDs%20VERSUS%20COLD%20CATHODE.pdf

Neon, believe it on not is still a far superior product to LED lighting. Its not nearly as bright (you need so many LEDs to achieve the same brightness, it saves little if no energy).
Maybe if you're only determining factor is energy savings, but I would assume other factors go into choosing LED over Neon.
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 18, 2009, 4:29 PM
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Here's some good news. Sony Ericsson is moving its north american HQ from RTP to Atlanta.

http://bit.ly/3TohRR

Maybe they're big enough to warrant 50 Allen Plaza getting back on track?
     
     
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Here's some good news. Sony Ericsson is moving its north american HQ from RTP to Atlanta.

http://bit.ly/3TohRR

Maybe they're big enough to warrant 50 Allen Plaza getting back on track?
wow, that's great news. i wish the R&D group was coming here too.

CE/wireless is one of the bright spots in the economy that consistently outperforms most other categories.

if only philips hadn't folded up their NA headquarters.
     
     
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Here's some good news. Sony Ericsson is moving its north american HQ from RTP to Atlanta.

http://bit.ly/3TohRR

Maybe they're big enough to warrant 50 Allen Plaza getting back on track?
Unfortunately, they probably could have their pick of new buildings in Buckhead (a number of which have no tenants at all), before even thinking about new development. Plus, there is an even bigger chance they will just move to the suburbs.

But hey, it is a good thought. I'll be hoping for Barry to start negotiations ASAP!
     
     
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Unfortunately, they probably could have their pick of new buildings in Buckhead (a number of which have no tenants at all), before even thinking about new development. Plus, there is an even bigger chance they will just move to the suburbs.

But hey, it is a good thought. I'll be hoping for Barry to start negotiations ASAP!
agreed on all that.

plus being the HQ, you're probably only looking at a few hundred folks tops, definitely not enough to warrant allen plaza which i think would only break ground for a major client with at least .5MM sq ft reqirement.....i'm thinking law/accounting firms, delta, coke, ncr....those types of players would need to step up for allen plaze to rise.
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 18, 2009, 8:40 PM
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Unfortunately, they probably could have their pick of new buildings in Buckhead (a number of which have no tenants at all), before even thinking about new development. Plus, there is an even bigger chance they will just move to the suburbs.
Here is a quote from the Business Chronicle...
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Morris said it is too early to tell if the RTP jobs moving to Atlanta will be at its 3344 Peachtree Road site, or another site in the city
Hopefully they're more attracted to intown if they're already at 3344 Peachtree.
I would think that would bring that building pretty close to 100%...good news for the other Buckhead developments if they pick that area of town.
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Here is a quote from the Business Chronicle...

Hopefully they're more attracted to intown if they're already at 3344 Peachtree.
I would think that would bring that building pretty close to 100%...good news for the other Buckhead developments if they pick that area of town.
Still wish it could be downtown...
     
     
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Anyone know whats going on next to the dome?



     
     
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kinda looks like a sinkhole.

or maybe they're starting on that new thousand footer?
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what ever happened to the green line? any news @ all lately?



and i hope all of you have already viewed this link as well.http://www.atlantadowntown.com/_files/GreenLineFullReport.pdf
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Well we went to the Costco the other day and it looks like there is some kind of new construction going on next to the Cox Building. Are they adding another tower?
     
     
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Well we went to the Costco the other day and it looks like there is some kind of new construction going on next to the Cox Building. Are they adding another tower?
You talking about Perimeter Center?
     
     
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Hmm. Interesting use of funds for 5 points station. I suppose it's a start to improving transit:

A plan to build a major passenger terminal in downtown Atlanta might soon boast new life, in the form of an $80 million-plus jump start, state officials said at Transportation Board meetings Wednesday and Thursday.

The idea has reeled in big supporters, but raised questions too -- including whether it's legal.

Congress long ago earmarked $87 million to partially fund a commuter rail line through Lovejoy, but Georgia has spent little of it, as state and local officials struggled to find funds to pay the remaining cost.

Now Congress is threatening to revoke unused earmarks, so state Department of Transportation board members and staff are looking to see whether they can spend the federal money on the terminal where the rail line was supposed to end, in the “gulch” area connecting to MARTA’s Five Points station.

The station would outclass any currently existing in Georgia. Where MARTA stations handle just subway trains, the terminal could be fitted to handle everything from high-speed rail to Amtrak to commuter rail. It would also receive commuter and inter-city buses, such as Greyhound. .

"I'm in favor of moving ahead with it," state Transportation Board Chairman Bill Kuhlke said Thursday. While there were other possible options, he said, "If you do anything, at some point you’re going to have to have a multimodal station. So why not concentrate on something that we’re going to have to have anyway?"

Gerald Ross, the state Department of Transportation's chief engineer and deputy commissioner, told board members Wednesday, "That's an opportunity we think we could use the money on." In an interview later, he cautioned that the idea was in early stages, that it was not the only possibility, and most significantly, that DOT had not yet verified that the language in the earmarks would allow the state to concentrate the money on a terminal.

In the meantime, DOT's director of intermodal programs, Erik Steavens, is in talks with city leaders and other agencies to determine what types of facilities the station would provide and how much space would be needed.

There would be opposition from Eldrin Bell, who chairs the Clayton County Commission, where the rail line is supposed to run. "I believe it would have a profound negative impact" to move the money, he said.

The project could address the fundamental problem that has dogged the commuter rail line proposal: Mass transit ticket sales rarely pay the full cost of operating the system on an ongoing basis. One idea is to gain a revenue stream for the rail lines by building and renting out office space above the terminal. DOT, MARTA and other agencies could move into that space, and form a reliable renter base even in a shaky real estate market.

If the federal government were to build out the Lovejoy train line itself as well as the intercity rail network now backed by the Obama administration, Atlanta would be ready with its central station.




I always thought that the multi-modal station should be a replica of the old Terminal station which was knocked down. Really would be classy
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Hmm. Interesting use of funds for 5 points station. I suppose it's a start to improving transit:

A plan to build a major passenger terminal in downtown Atlanta might soon boast new life, in the form of an $80 million-plus jump start, state officials said at Transportation Board meetings Wednesday and Thursday.

The idea has reeled in big supporters, but raised questions too -- including whether it's legal.

Congress long ago earmarked $87 million to partially fund a commuter rail line through Lovejoy, but Georgia has spent little of it, as state and local officials struggled to find funds to pay the remaining cost.

Now Congress is threatening to revoke unused earmarks, so state Department of Transportation board members and staff are looking to see whether they can spend the federal money on the terminal where the rail line was supposed to end, in the “gulch” area connecting to MARTA’s Five Points station.

The station would outclass any currently existing in Georgia. Where MARTA stations handle just subway trains, the terminal could be fitted to handle everything from high-speed rail to Amtrak to commuter rail. It would also receive commuter and inter-city buses, such as Greyhound. .

"I'm in favor of moving ahead with it," state Transportation Board Chairman Bill Kuhlke said Thursday. While there were other possible options, he said, "If you do anything, at some point you’re going to have to have a multimodal station. So why not concentrate on something that we’re going to have to have anyway?"

Gerald Ross, the state Department of Transportation's chief engineer and deputy commissioner, told board members Wednesday, "That's an opportunity we think we could use the money on." In an interview later, he cautioned that the idea was in early stages, that it was not the only possibility, and most significantly, that DOT had not yet verified that the language in the earmarks would allow the state to concentrate the money on a terminal.

In the meantime, DOT's director of intermodal programs, Erik Steavens, is in talks with city leaders and other agencies to determine what types of facilities the station would provide and how much space would be needed.

There would be opposition from Eldrin Bell, who chairs the Clayton County Commission, where the rail line is supposed to run. "I believe it would have a profound negative impact" to move the money, he said.

The project could address the fundamental problem that has dogged the commuter rail line proposal: Mass transit ticket sales rarely pay the full cost of operating the system on an ongoing basis. One idea is to gain a revenue stream for the rail lines by building and renting out office space above the terminal. DOT, MARTA and other agencies could move into that space, and form a reliable renter base even in a shaky real estate market.

If the federal government were to build out the Lovejoy train line itself as well as the intercity rail network now backed by the Obama administration, Atlanta would be ready with its central station.




I always thought that the multi-modal station should be a replica of the old Terminal station which was knocked down. Really would be classy
Yeah, hopefully something Grand Central Station-ish
     
     
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You talking about Perimeter Center?
Yep, it's right there across from the Costco. It's nice to see at least some construction work going on.
     
     
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On the thing about the trains, I like them a lot and grew up with them. But is there a chance we could bring them back after 50 years? Downtown is a lot different from the way it was in those days.
     
     
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MARTA already works well downtown. Downtown just needs to be efficiently connected to other areas.
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On the thing about the trains, I like them a lot and grew up with them. But is there a chance we could bring them back after 50 years? Downtown is a lot different from the way it was in those days.
there's more than a chance.

the multi modal terminal is much less about downtown and much more about providing a singular connecting and distribution point for various modes of transport from across the region.

the more important question may be: after being america's poster child for unchecked sprawl for the past 50 years, do you think atlanta will prosper for the next 50 years without new (or reinstated) modes of transportation as an alternative to the automobile?
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 29, 2009, 8:24 AM
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On the thing about the trains, I like them a lot and grew up with them. But is there a chance we could bring them back after 50 years? Downtown is a lot different from the way it was in those days.
We have to bring trains back to Atlanta in order for it to survive as a growing region. So long as the interstates are backed up and pollution plagues the area, Atlanta will find less and less growth. I really do believe that in the future, either metro Atlanta will exist with trains running throughout the region as a much more major city, or it'll become somewhat like Detroit, steadily declining.
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