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Old Posted Nov 18, 2009, 3:35 PM
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I figured that Lake Placid would be back in town, which is why I thought city council was a little too hasty with their imposed deadlines.

What does C.A.V.E. even stand for?

It will likely be next year when we see the cranes downtown.

I am suprised that there are still two empty lots on Second Ave without retail/office development. (Beside McDonalds)(Behind Sasktel)

I'd like to see Meridian develop this. Or for that matter, any project downtown.
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 18, 2009, 3:41 PM
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What does C.A.V.E. even stand for?
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Old Posted Nov 18, 2009, 11:11 PM
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You have to admit that the LP project certainly brought this site and alot of Saskatoon alive with the idea of a bright future for River Landing. Putting that kind of coin together in the past year must be huge undertaking. Now that the deadline has passed by 17 days, when you read the Star on line and see the readers comments, one can easily see the rock has been moved and the C.A.V.E. people are out in full motion again. Why is it when ever something which could be good for the city comes to light, they are against it. We don't need another park on the riverbank and no way should Block Y be used for low cost housing.
Well put gowest, I concur!
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Old Posted Nov 18, 2009, 11:15 PM
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I am suprised that there are still two empty lots on Second Ave without retail/office development. (Beside McDonalds)(Behind Sasktel)

I'd like to see Meridian develop this. Or for that matter, any project downtown.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that Mid-West Development (aka Ken Achs) owns that empty lot along with the McDonald's building beside it. I do believe that Achs is a partner with Meridian now and I fully expect something to come to fruition there in the next few years. I think it was when Achs bought the empty lot after Chau's burnt down when he was quoted as saying he hoped to develop those properties when the time was right.
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Old Posted Nov 19, 2009, 12:09 AM
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well looks to me like things are going to be right back on track and im happy for this, its really good news, and it gives saskatoon the chance to be back in the spotlight again, if this goes through then be sure to see other developments proposed, and those one go through, i think the real boom is either here or about to hit.
     
     
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Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that Mid-West Development (aka Ken Achs) owns that empty lot along with the McDonald's building beside it. I do believe that Achs is a partner with Meridian now and I fully expect something to come to fruition there in the next few years. I think it was when Achs bought the empty lot after Chau's burnt down when he was quoted as saying he hoped to develop those properties when the time was right.
I want to nuke that McDonalds. Everyday I think about it. This makes me incredibly happy, I hope that McDonals dies and burns...and dies again.
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 19, 2009, 4:23 PM
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I was in the lower level mall of the Drinkle Building on 3rd ave yesterday. They have some historic photographs from the area on display.

I got nauseaous, started hyperventilating, and had to leave upon seeing the buildings, just within a block or two, that have been torn down. Just typing this out is making me flushed.
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 19, 2009, 7:19 PM
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S-P says Saskatoon annexes another 10,000 acres

Article (and ferocious comments from both sides) here:

http://www.thestarphoenix.com/news/City+expansion+worry+some+rural+residents/2239477/story.html

10,000 new acres annexed by COS from Corman Park for $1.5M, mostly in the east, northeast, and north, with ultimate intent to accommodate a future population of 400,000. Some people with acreages just outside the city will now officially become part of the city, and as a result will see taxes increase, and possibly see a decrease in level of services like road clearing in winter.

The largest pro / con debate was:

This is the definition of sprawl! Why aren't we revitalizing core neighbourhoods? (shmakim almost replies) You mean like that seniors complex next to a church to be built on an unused field? Cause of the NIMBYs, that's why. Existing residents didn't want increased density and traffic. Period. I'm beginning to wonder if people simply prefer the idea, or assurance, that their new house on their new lot has never been "contaminated" with use by anyone else. The perfection factor is played waaay up in new home sales - the houses are immaculately cleaned before being handed to you, so it's not even apparent there were tradespeople making dust before you arrived.

Keep in mind, the city can't dictate to people where they should live. They can only make it very expensive, through lot prices and taxes, to live at the edge of the city, and give developers incentives (which can hopefully be passed on to residents) to redevelop sites... like those empty lots I checked out in King George a few days ago.

But if the people want pristine, new neighbourhoods at the edge of town, speaking with their $$$$$$$ not their principles or complaints, then that's what the city will honour. We can only hope that those neighbourhoods will be more self-sufficient than that nadir of suburbia, Abhor Creek. This can be done by truly combining residential, retail, professional, and maybe even industrial into one neighbourhood. But who wants to live next door to the factory or the shopping mall or the business park, with all the traffic and noise and people... oh shudder!

Sorry, let my sarcasm go a bit.....
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Old Posted Nov 19, 2009, 8:15 PM
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I want to nuke that McDonalds. Everyday I think about it. This makes me incredibly happy, I hope that McDonals dies and burns...and dies again.
i agree with you. there is always someone confused and crazy infront of that mcdonalds yelling swearing at the pavement, and the people inside bring their dogs and wear those big wide rave pants that haven't been washed since the 1990s... then you cross the street to star bucks and everything is normal again.

however, i haven't been to a downtown on this planet that doesn't sport a mcdonalds with a similar experience lol
     
     
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I want to nuke that McDonalds. Everyday I think about it. This makes me incredibly happy, I hope that McDonals dies and burns...and dies again.
Hahah. I have to admit, I kind of like that McDonalds. Although I've only been inside once... In all my travels, I've never come across another Walk-Thru McDonalds. I'm sure they exist somewhere else (or maybe I just wasn't paying close enough attention to the McDonalds to notice one), but to me, it's just another funny Saskatoon quirk.

A few other funny Saskatoon quirks:

- Giant bust of Mahatma Gandhi in downtown, Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada.
- Saskatoon Bus Stop Refreshments, our lovely British double decker bus downtown.
- The Victoria Bridge (or Traffic bridge, or whatever it's officially called now),
Which is hilarious to drive on with an out-of-towner, as they are usually terrified that they're going to hit oncoming traffic or ram into the guard rails.

Can anyone think of any others?
     
     
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i agree with you. there is always someone confused and crazy infront of that mcdonalds yelling swearing at the pavement, and the people inside bring their dogs and wear those big wide rave pants that haven't been washed since the 1990s... then you cross the street to star bucks and everything is normal again.

however, i haven't been to a downtown on this planet that doesn't sport a mcdonalds with a similar experience lol
McDonald's fills an important function as one of the only cheap places to eat downtown, unless you love paying $12 for a mini-panini at Souleo. I hope they throw a Tim Horton's or Robin's into that new bus terminal to expand the choice of cheap food a bit.
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 19, 2009, 10:17 PM
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Can anyone think of any others?
The walk-up Dairy Queen on 8th Street, certainly a rarity.
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Old Posted Nov 19, 2009, 10:22 PM
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Article (and ferocious comments from both sides) here:

http://www.thestarphoenix.com/news/City+expansion+worry+some+rural+residents/2239477/story.html

10,000 new acres annexed by COS from Corman Park for $1.5M, mostly in the east, northeast, and north, with ultimate intent to accommodate a future population of 400,000. Some people with acreages just outside the city will now officially become part of the city, and as a result will see taxes increase, and possibly see a decrease in level of services like road clearing in winter.

The largest pro / con debate was:

This is the definition of sprawl! Why aren't we revitalizing core neighbourhoods? (shmakim almost replies) You mean like that seniors complex next to a church to be built on an unused field? Cause of the NIMBYs, that's why. Existing residents didn't want increased density and traffic. Period. I'm beginning to wonder if people simply prefer the idea, or assurance, that their new house on their new lot has never been "contaminated" with use by anyone else. The perfection factor is played waaay up in new home sales - the houses are immaculately cleaned before being handed to you, so it's not even apparent there were tradespeople making dust before you arrived.

Keep in mind, the city can't dictate to people where they should live. They can only make it very expensive, through lot prices and taxes, to live at the edge of the city, and give developers incentives (which can hopefully be passed on to residents) to redevelop sites... like those empty lots I checked out in King George a few days ago.

But if the people want pristine, new neighbourhoods at the edge of town, speaking with their $$$$$$$ not their principles or complaints, then that's what the city will honour. We can only hope that those neighbourhoods will be more self-sufficient than that nadir of suburbia, Abhor Creek. This can be done by truly combining residential, retail, professional, and maybe even industrial into one neighbourhood. But who wants to live next door to the factory or the shopping mall or the business park, with all the traffic and noise and people... oh shudder!

Sorry, let my sarcasm go a bit.....
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k so does this also mean, that the city has the intent to develop neighbourhoods that could bring in nearly 400,000 people, because if thats the intent, that would be insane, i like that, but still they have to develope the downtown core and get rid of some of the old building, and make it look a little more modern.
By the way, whats happening with the neighbourhood evergreen???? are things really picking up there???? when will houses be built there???
     
     
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Is there a map shown anywhere of the areas that were annexed?
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 19, 2009, 10:42 PM
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i really believe saskatoon is on its way to become a much bigger city, im sure its gonna be the next calgary
     
     
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Is there a map shown anywhere of the areas that were annexed?
This should help you out. Keep in mind you will be downloading a pdf.

Map of Proposed Boundary Alteration PDF
     
     
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i really believe saskatoon is on its way to become a much bigger city, im sure its gonna be the next calgary
Our growth has been steady the past few years, but nothing extraordinary. I think the city has us pegged around 400,000 by 2025. A significant addition, but not enough to warrant us as 'the new Calgary'.
     
     
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Planning?

It's time the city planners looked at their map and realize that it is folded at Idywyld Drive. The constant movement east is going to destroy the city. Saskatoon used to be called the HUB city as it serviced all of Saskatchewan. The planners should go back to that name so the downtown is the hub. I am surprised that downtown business people don't realize that the more the city moves east, the less people will want to come to the downtown area. Unless a city has mountains or lakes next to it, there is no reason it shouldn't develope in a square. That way it will always have a vibrant hub. How is the so called westside every going to change when the city itself keeps pushing it away and ignoring it. The planning department might as well build their office in Willowgrove, then they will be central. Wake up City Hall, there are four directions on a compass.
     
     
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Why develop in a square?? ... wouldn't a circle make all the outer limits equally as close to the centre?
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McDonald's fills an important function as one of the only cheap places to eat downtown, unless you love paying $12 for a mini-panini at Souleo. I hope they throw a Tim Horton's or Robin's into that new bus terminal to expand the choice of cheap food a bit.
There are a lot of places to get a decent food downtown for the cost of a big mac meal. There is a donut shop (Robins?) in the STC terminal. In addition, there is Ding Dong on 21st, the food fair in Midtown, the wrap place on 2nd. Cafe Sola makes great meals for under ten bucks and there is a great mom and pop greasy spoon on 2nd a couple of blocks north of 25th.
     
     
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