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Old Posted Nov 6, 2009, 5:43 AM
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The city has had crews doing soil testing on the banks and sandbars for the new bridge for a couple of months. It appears that it has started, but until we see equipment and earth moving it doesn't seems like it.
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 6, 2009, 6:06 AM
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I'm not advocating they give LP extensions to the end of time. All I was saying is: what is the hurt in giving them another extension if they are paying interest on the land?
If the city is going to continue to extend the deadline on developing this property they should require some form of deposit to ensure they are serious and not just blowing smoke. Even a small deposit of a couple hundred thousand dollars would at least give the city some assurance that these guys know what they are doing. If they do end up walking away the city will at least make a little return on holding this property for them.

If LP is not serious they will balk at paying a deposit and the city can get onto finding a new developer.
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Old Posted Nov 6, 2009, 4:07 PM
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Any thoughts on how the bridge is going to change the dynamic of the city?
You'd think it will mean more development south and southwest.

It should really open up the sw to the rest of the city.
I wonder how it'll affect the smaller centres out that way like Vanscoy and Delisle, and the Valley Road businesses etc. It's beautiful out there. Much nicer than the other roads in and outta town.
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 6, 2009, 5:03 PM
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City has projects totalling $200M in federal program, $40M more than Regina



Saskatoon and Regina are set to embark on an unprecedented spending spree on local infrastructure, together allocating more than $360 million on projects meant to prop up the economy after the sharpest downturn in decades.

But which of the rival cities is spending more so-called stimulus dollars?

A breakdown of stimulus funding shows more federal infrastructure stimulus funding has been given to Saskatoon, a difference that can mostly be explained by per-capita population, officials said.

The City of Saskatoon is tackling projects totalling $167 million compared to projects totalling $139 million for the City of Regina.

That works out to $760 per capita in Saskatoon compared to $730 per capita in Regina using the most recent population figures.

When other projects in each city are accounted for -- such as upgrades to universities, colleges and funding for other local organizations -- Saskatoon will undertake more than $200 million in stimulus construction compared to more than $160 million in Regina.

The analysis includes money that has flowed through various programs under the new stimulus fund, announced in January, and the Building Canada infrastructure program, an older program that has seen its disbursements accelerated.

Critics have said the two-year limit on stimulus spending is causing a rush to build infrastructure, forcing cities to make hasty decisions and prompting construction prices to soar. Several municipalities have called on the federal government to relax its two-year limit.

CONSTRUCTION BOOM ANTICIPATED

Regina will undertake $41 million in projects that have a completion date of March, 2011, $2 million more than in Saskatoon.

But here, it all adds up to a coming construction boom for the city, said Linda Andal, Saskatoon's financial policy and strategy analyst, with some projects already completed and many more to get underway across the city next year.

The city has the capacity to finish the projects on time, with final approvals coming soon, Andal said.

"There's no reason to worry if we can handle these projects," she said.

The 58 Saskatoon projects include a $21-million expansion of water reservoirs, $850,000 for LED screen upgrades at Credit Union Centre, along with dozens of smaller road and sidewalk repairs, upgrades to tennis courts and other recreational facilities, and the $51-million River Landing destination centre.

All those infrastructure projects won't stretch city coffers since they have financing in place through capital reserves, said Mayor Don Atchison. He was criticized during the election for taking on too many big projects, thereby increasing city debt.

"We had a lot of shovel-ready projects," Atchison said. "It's quite interesting that (Saskatoon and Regina) are relatively close now. I can imagine what the headlines would be if we hadn't participated and Regina gets $150 million more in projects than Saskatoon."

The city administration worked hard to secure funding and move capital projects forward from 2010 and 2011, he said.

A recent analysis showed Regina MP Ralph Goodale's riding -- the only Liberal riding in the province -- received about $4.8 million compared to $6.5 million in the riding next door.

The most telling arithmetic is going to come when a province-by-province analysis comes out, Goodale said Thursday, because Saskatchewan may be short-changed thanks to a strong economy and less perceived need.

The entire program should have been administered through the gas tax on a per-capita basis to ensure politics stayed out, he said.

"This whole program has unfortunately been skewed by politics from the very beginning," said Goodale.

"It's important for the whole country to be treated fairly."



SNAPSHOT: SASKATOON

STIMULUS GRANTS

$167 million

City: $84 million

Province: $25 million

Federal: $58 million

Key Projects

- Funding for destination centre: $51 million

- Credit Union Centre screen upgrades: $850,000

- Landfill gas collection: $10 million

- Twin Wanuskewin Road: $6.3 million

- Water main renewal: $9.1 million

Source: City of Saskatoon

SNAPSHOT: REGINA

Stimulus grants: $139 million

City: $70 million

Province: $20 million

Federal: $49 million

KEY PROJECTS

- Evraz Place redevelopment: $60 million

- Widening of Ross Avenue: $3.3 million

- Wastewater system for transit hub: $13.3 million

- Drainage system for transit hub: $4 million

- Arcola Avenue rehabilitation: $4.5 million

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Sorry, I think I got a little giddy with the bolding tool, but that's so exciting to hear such high-profile, mainstream figures declaring in the media that we're expecting a construction boom.... with projects moved ahead from 2011 and 2010 .... to now? Even if these projects don't show themselves as (for instanace) gleaming, skyline-changing towers, they'll dump a bunch of money into the local economy, further strengthening our reputation as a place to invest.

Not sure why S-P took so many chances to flare up the Stoon-Regina rivalry. Seems kinda cheap.
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 6, 2009, 5:05 PM
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I think it will aid in the gentrification of the areas immediately west of downtown. Fewer cars and transport trucks being piped into downtown can only be good. The reduction in traffic will make it more pleasant for drivers and pedestrians alike. Combine that with the 25th Street extension and developments in the warehouse district, south Caswell Hill and Riversdale around River Landing, and it makes a much more inviting place to live and/or do business.

Circle Drive was conceived by the city commissioner, Christopher Yorath, back in 1913. Looks like we're about to complete the project almost 100 years later. Let's keep up this momentum!

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Any thoughts on how the bridge is going to change the dynamic of the city?
You'd think it will mean more development south and southwest.

It should really open up the sw to the rest of the city.
I wonder how it'll affect the smaller centres out that way like Vanscoy and Delisle, and the Valley Road businesses etc. It's beautiful out there. Much nicer than the other roads in and outta town.
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 6, 2009, 5:22 PM
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The city has had crews doing soil testing on the banks and sandbars for the new bridge for a couple of months. It appears that it has started, but until we see equipment and earth moving it doesn't seems like it.
I was at the landfill a few weeks ago and you can see graters and other equipment flattening out the river bank on the other side, they've started on it.

I think Oct 1, 2012 is a little far fetched though considering it takes them like 2.5 years to build an overpass.
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 6, 2009, 6:09 PM
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City has projects totalling $200M in federal program, $40M more than Regina
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Not sure why S-P took so many chances to flare up the Stoon-Regina rivalry. Seems kinda cheap.
Yeah, we're fuming down here! On the other hand, our heating bills shouldn't be as expensive this winter!

(The L-P printed the same article -- except without the statistics! Thanks!)
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 6, 2009, 10:55 PM
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Rural efficts of Bridge

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Any thoughts on how the bridge is going to change the dynamic of the city?
You'd think it will mean more development south and southwest.

It should really open up the sw to the rest of the city.
I wonder how it'll affect the smaller centres out that way like Vanscoy and Delisle, and the Valley Road businesses etc. It's beautiful out there. Much nicer than the other roads in and outta town.
I think when the bridge is done more people will discover the hidden gems of Valley Road and Pike Lake Park. With the Blairmore developement and the new bridge the entire areas west and SW of Saskatoon will start to boom. Delisle and Vanscoy are already starting new developments. The west is coming alive again, now the developers have to start thinking about the west end instead of only the east. The city as well has to start to take better care of it's land in the west end. They have started to clean up the far west end of 22nd Street. Rather than the nice Saskatoon Shines signs at the airport and other entrances to the city, they decided to hang one on the pedestrian overpass at the new schools. Not quite the same, but then again it might just be there until all the highway and road work is done.(Hopefully)
For those of us who live in the west end of the city or the rural area to the west all this is great news. Try coming into the city from highway 7 or 14 and see how long it takes to get to Stonebridge.
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 6, 2009, 11:34 PM
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For those of us who live in the west end of the city or the rural area to the west all this is great news. Try coming into the city from highway 7 or 14 and see how long it takes to get to Stonebridge.
This reminds me of growing up years ago in Montgomery. I played hockey as a kid and often had games out at the Jemini arena. It took a good 20-25 minutes to make the drive. Had that bridge been there, it likely would have been a 5 minute drive

I think we're going to see a huge decrease in traffic down 22nd/20th street as well as the Sid Buckwold Bridge.
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 7, 2009, 2:12 PM
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Just my two cents... but to Mr. Lobsinger personally!

For the record, this was emailed directly to Mr. Lobsinger personally...

Mr. Lobsinger,

Your plan for River Landing in Saskatoon was nothing short of amazing - I'd go so far as to say breath taking!! I saw your vision too sir, and believed in you and the project!!

I've had the image of the conceptual drawing on my bulletin board since it was released. I am a prairie boy, born and raised here and your vision brought something more to a town which closely resembles that of a primitive temperance colony - both in mind set and structure. You sold us on change, and I was with you all the way. Your project was going to change the landscape - and was going to be one of the greatest projects to grace our riverbank... EVER!!

The demise of your vision on Friday afternoon was a let down to me, and to Saskatoon, and I cannot tell you how truly disappointed I am that this project was not funded after you promised it would be by the deadline you agreed to. You put your reputation on the line as you did with your good name, and both are are seemingly worthless at this point. To promise the people of Saskatoon that this project was going to move forward and then pull the plug on the eleventh hour is nothing short of a disgrace for Lake Placid. We believed in you, and we shared your vision, but you let us down.

Your site still has the Saskatoon project on its front page, yet any news reports we're hearing are saying you and your team are out of the game. I'm looking at images on the news as I write this... of what was to be your legacy... but still it sits, an empty piece of land much the same way we here in Saskatoon feel about you.

A regional blog suggests, following this fiasco, that you will fail and that your business will fail, and file for bankruptcy. To blame the markets is far too easy to do. You, like I are a businessman and if you couldn't see the economies turn for the worst, then you're not much of a forward thinking and planning businessman. Planning for a rainy day is part of the game, along with coming up with a game plan to see your plan executed.

You baffled us with smoke and lights and maybe this has happened for the best. Perhaps Mr. Achs will step up and build something you weren't able to follow through on. The recession didn't seem to stop him from moving forward on a new and refurbished venture. I guess his funding isn't coming from Cyprus - but even if it did, he put his money where his mouth was.

I believed in you and your vision... and you let me down. You should have learned years ago in business school that if you can't go big... go home!! Maybe you should stay in Calgary and let someone from Saskatchewan look after the business here, because I'm quite sure Ken is up for the challenge. You should be ashamed of yourself, because I'm ashamed for you!

Regards,

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New Hotel

I don't know how many people have noticed they are moving houses beside the Blue Diamond on 22nd Street. There is a sign up showing the Bridgewater West efficiency Hotel. It shows a picture of a three story hotel with a little design rather than a box. Not sure what a efficiency hotel is. That leaves it open for alot of comments for a hotel in that area.

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Old Posted Nov 9, 2009, 12:33 AM
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I don't know how many people have noticed they are moving houses beside the Blue Diamond on 22nd Street. There is a sign up showing the Bridgewater West convenience Hotel. It shows a picture of a three story hotel with a little design rather than a box. Not sure what a convenience hotel is. That leaves it open for alot of comments for a hotel in that area.
Some photo's just for you gowest. A bit of an odd location for a hotel and I wonder what an efficiency hotel is. Also included are photos of the new Walmart and hotel in Blairmore.








     
     
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Old Posted Nov 9, 2009, 1:02 AM
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Great photos Jerry, Thanks When you see large trucks around the Walmart you realize how big it is. Even those who don't like Walmart, you have to admit they are fast in construction of new stores.The hotel in Blairmore looks like it has a water slide on the west end. Add the new park between the school and hotel and the area is starting to look great. I haven't been in the Shaw Centre but the reviews of the pool sound good.

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That's real beauty!

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An efficiency hotel is a hotel designed for longer term stays. Generally they are just a standard hotel room with kitchenette. I'm not sure what market that are aiming at in that neighbourhood; I doubt they are looking at long term business travelers or professionals. Perhaps filling the void left by the Barry ?
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Discovery Plaza

It's great to see some projects in Saskatoon are getting completed and Discovery Plaza the greenest building downtown is in the final stages. I love the clean lines of this building.


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Awesome pics! Thanks!

Any idea of who is going in this building yet?
     
     
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No idea on the tenants but they will certainly have some nice space.
     
     
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Is there retail at grade?
     
     
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Very nice building it is! Great for Saskatoon downtown!
     
     
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