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Old Posted Sep 17, 2009, 4:01 AM
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Does anyone know when Wintzell's Oyster House and SaZa's Italian opens up.
I don't think anyone knows for sure, but last I heard SaZa's was possibly in October, and Wintzell's was early 2010...

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Downtown workers encouraged to use parking decks, not meters
By Jill Nolin • September 16, 2009
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When Bob Parker told people that his business group was thinking about opening a restaurant in downtown Montgomery, they thought he was crazy. They told him there wouldn't be enough parking spaces for his customers.

But Dreamland Bar-B-Que has been open for six months, and patrons are finding places to park.
Parker said parking became a non-issue for him after he counted the spaces on the block around The Alley, where Dreamland is located, and tallied as many as 150. Then he heard about the city's plan to build a deck about a block away on Coosa Street.
"It helped get that issue off our mind," Parker said of the Coosa Street parking deck.

Parker said he's more concerned about life after Biscuits baseball than he is about parking. He said this is generally a concern shared with other potential investors who are eyeing downtown. But two weeks after the season has wrapped up, two events at the Renaissance Montgomery Hotel and Spa at the Convention Center have kept the Alley busy, Parker said.

The city of Montgomery has funneled a significant amount of resources into bulking up the parking capacity in downtown to be able to attract more retail and commercial development. Just in the past two years, the city's efforts have added 937 spaces by adding three decks to downtown.

That's in addition to the 543 spaces available at the City Hall parking deck on Monroe Street, which was built in the 1980s and is open to the public, and the 140 spaces available in the large parking lot located in front of the Union Station Train Shed.

But now city officials want people to use the decks and leave the metered spaces available for shoppers and short-term parkers. They are trying to find ways to discourage downtown employees, such as state workers, who set up in a space and stay all day.

To do this, the City Council recently approved parking rate increases downtown. The hourly rate went from 25 cents to 50 cents, and the parking fine is now $10, up from $4. Deputy Mayor Jeff Downes said it is the stiffer fine that is intended to drive people into the parking decks. It is $4 cheaper for someone to park in a deck for a day rather than park in a metered spot and get a $10 fine.

"You're not supposed to re-feed a meter. The risk is the $10 fine," Downes said. "The safer bet, if you're going to be there for more than two hours, is to go to the parking deck."

It costs $50 a month -- the cost of getting five tickets in a month -- to park in the Coosa Street, Washington Avenue and intermodal parking decks. The maximum cost for parking for a day is $6. As for the City Hall parking deck, there are 543 spaces available, and city vehicles only use about one-fourth of it, Downes said. The fee for non-city employees is $40 per month and $6 per day.

But for some people, the incentive was not needed. It became clear before the Coosa Street deck opened and months before the parking rates and fines were changed that there was not enough space available to meet the demand, according to Downes. When the deck opened a few weeks ago, it filled up.

The level of popularity at each lot is indicative of the activity going on around them, Downes said.
While the Coosa Street deck is booked up with subscribers, the Washington Avenue deck can boast only a handful of committed parkers. The reason for this isn't difficult to discern. The Coosa Street deck is located next to the Riverwalk Stadium, the Alley and several large private offices.
"Everybody started standing in line for those spaces during the construction phase. We realized pretty rapidly that there was more demand than there was supply," Downes said.

The Washington Avenue deck sits on a block that has yet to benefit from the downtown redevelopment. But the 237-space deck was built at Washington Avenue because city officials expect the momentum of revitalization to eventually reach the lower Dexter Avenue area, which has only experienced light redevelopment interest so far.

Building the deck is an act of faith. The structure cost the city $5.7 million in Tax Increment Financing funds. The Washington and Coosa decks are both in the city and county's TIF district. This makes the projects eligible for the property tax revenue that is set aside for capital projects as the property values in the TIF district increase.
The Washington Avenue deck is expected to see a significant increase in activity once the city moves several departments into 25 Washington Ave., which is next to the parking deck.

"Right now, that deck is not highly utilized," Downes said. "However, in the next two or three months, we should see that change dramatically."
TIF money was also used to build the 305-space Coosa Street deck, which cost $6.8 million.

The parking deck at the intermodal facility on Molton Street, which is the headquarters for the Montgomery Area Transportation System, has 395 spaces. It was built using federal transportation funds. It cost $7.1 million to build the entire intermodal center, which includes the parking deck.
While it costs $50 or $40 a month for a parking subscription, it costs $70 for a reserved space. About 30 spaces were left open in the Coosa Street deck for those who do not routinely have business in downtown but choose to park there.

It costs $55 a month per space to park in the parking lot at Commerce and Tallapoosa streets and a parking control arm will be added in the next 30 days.
This area will eventually be transformed from parking spaces into a city park, a place for nature lovers instead of cars. But the funding for that project is unavailable right now, Downes said.
Downes said the revenue from the parking decks goes into operational and maintenance costs for the decks.
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Old Posted Sep 17, 2009, 4:21 AM
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By Rick Harmon • September 16, 2009
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Bell Street may not only get a new look but a new name.

Montgomery Mayor Todd Strange told the Montgomery City Council on Tuesday that he wants to rename the street that connects downtown Montgomery to Maxwell Air Force Base to reflect the city's link with the base and the Air Force.

Strange said he would like Bell Street, which is undergoing millions of dollars in renovations, to be renamed, and that the top two names he is considering are Maxwell Boulevard and Wright Brothers Parkway.
"I strongly feel that the name should reflect the city's connection to Maxwell, to the Air Force or to flight," he said.

"If we knew the Wright Brothers Museum would be built there, I might be more inclined toward naming it after the Wright Brothers, but at this point we don't know when or if that will happen. Right now, I'm leaning toward Maxwell Boulevard, just for the continuity."

The new name would mean more than the old one, according to what he's been able to discover.
He said while Bell Road was named after a prominent Montgomery family, people researching the history of Bell Street have not been able to come up with an area connection for that name.

He said the street appears to have been named for A.G. Bell.
"It could be for Alexander Graham Bell for all I know," he said, adding that the name doesn't seem to match that of any prominent Montgomerians.
Council members seemed to approve of the change, with no one voicing opposition.

But several questioned the details -- such as whether all of Bell Street would be renamed or just the section that leads from downtown to the gate at Maxwell.

Councilwoman Martha Roby said if Bell Street were renamed she was leaning toward renaming the entire street. She said an important factor in renaming streets was not making them more confusing, and she believed "we have too many streets that change names already."
Roby and other members of the council suggested the city seek public input on the name.

While Strange said he would welcome input, he said "at the end of the day, the responsibility for naming streets is the government's," and he felt strongly that the name should reflect Maxwell, the Air Force or the city's connection to manned flight.
No deadline has been set to decide on whether the street should be renamed.

About $7 million is being spent to widen Bell Street and demolish the remainder of Riverside Heights, the former public housing development near Maxwell Air Force Base.
The road widening should be finished in the latter half of 2010, said Rebecca Leigh White, spokeswoman for the Alabama Department of Transportation.
ALDOT will handle the project, which is 80 percent federally funded with a 20 percent state match.
Which name sounds best to you?
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I don't think anyone knows for sure, but last I heard SaZa's was possibly in October, and Wintzell's was early 2010...

Construction at Wintzells should be over soon...before the end of September. I guess it will be up to them after that as to when they will open. The project manager told me he thought they would open sometime in October.

As for the Bell Stree renaming I like Wright Brothers Parkway. Airbase Blvd or Day Street could be named Maxwell Blvd.
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Does anyone know when Wintzell's Oyster House and SaZa's Italian opens up.
Joe DiMaggio Jr. (owner of SaZa's) was on the business break portion of Today in Alabama on WSFA this morning and said they would be open the third week of September. I guess it could be any day then...
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Cool. Sounds like a good plan.

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What is not clear is how soon the project will take shape. The city has applied for a $75,000 grant through the National Endowment for the Humanities to help with the planning process, and then it would seek an implementation grant. But with or without the grants, the city plans to move forward with the project; it might just take a little longer without the grants.
Ok, you've GOT to be kidding me. Where are the tea-baggers now? It's funny how conservative cities in conservative states beg and plead and whimper for their federal handouts just as much as the "welfare-queen" caricatures they despise.

Surely Montgomery, a city gilded with segregated private schools and country clubs along with vast tracts of abandoned strip malls, could develop this historical trail from it's own largesse. For the price of one leisurely afternoon spent at Henig Furs, this lovely addition to Bronner's alabaster glory can be yours!!
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Ok, you've GOT to be kidding me. Where are the tea-baggers now? It's funny how conservative cities in conservative states beg and plead and whimper for their federal handouts just as much as the "welfare-queen" caricatures they despise.

Surely Montgomery, a city gilded with segregated private schools and country clubs along with vast tracts of abandoned strip malls, could develop this historical trail from it's own largesse. For the price of one leisurely afternoon spent at Henig Furs, this lovely addition to Bronner's alabaster glory can be yours!!
There seems to be a little bitteness (or is that jealousy?) in your statement. Not really sure where that is coming from or what we should make of it...
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Ok, you've GOT to be kidding me. Where are the tea-baggers now? It's funny how conservative cities in conservative states beg and plead and whimper for their federal handouts just as much as the "welfare-queen" caricatures they despise.

Surely Montgomery, a city gilded with segregated private schools and country clubs along with vast tracts of abandoned strip malls, could develop this historical trail from it's own largesse. For the price of one leisurely afternoon spent at Henig Furs, this lovely addition to Bronner's alabaster glory can be yours!!
WOW, where in the hell did that come from? For your information, the urban centers of Alabama are usually just as liberal as other urban centers in the U.S., though, usually not as liberal as the Northern counterparts.

I don't understand where you got the idea that a "Heritage Trail" would be part of Bronner's vast real estate empire... You know, Philopdx, you're not supposed to mix alcohol with narcotics... just letting you know.
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Yeah, for you guys that didn't already know, philopdx's a bit of an a--wipe.
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This Upcoming weekend

Is anyone going to the Montgomery Streetfest this upcoming Friday at the Alley and the Taste of Montgomery(River Region) at the Convention Center Complex Sunday night I look forward to both events hope to see some of you there.
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I'm sorry, it took me a while to get over the initial shock of the stupidity of his statement... It's quite comical to read now!
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While I do think it would be quite amusing to cut the Federal dollars to Alabama (currently the state receives around $2.52 back for every $1.00 paid in taxes [which is quite socialist!]) this not not the time or place, philopdx. This is a development thread. If you want to complain about Alabama's "unique" political philosophies, start a politics thread.
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Is anyone going to the Montgomery Streetfest this upcoming Friday at the Alley and the Taste of Montgomery(River Region) at the Convention Center Complex Sunday night I look forward to both events hope to see some of you there.
I'm going to try to make both this weekend. I'm hoping my brother and his family will be in town too. He's also waiting for the city's next staycation.
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Wintzell's is open for business
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I saw a few pics of Wintzell in the advertiser and it looks good.
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Me and a friend tried to go there for lunch today, but it was way too packed to wait for the time we had available. We'll try to go again once some of the novelty and excitement wears off.
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