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twoNeurons · #**9441** Posted **Sep 10, 2009, 1:36 PM**

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Originally Posted by NetMapel

Curiously, when in the morning do you start paying the full multiple-zone price instead of the reduced 1-zone price after 6:30pm ? Do you just pay 1-zone from 6:30pm to the last bus/train for the day. Then, full-zone prices resume starting with the first bus/train the next morning ?

Correct. The System becomes one zone only in the evenings. I think it's until 4:30 (or whenever the Night busses stop running)

s211 · #**9442** Posted **Sep 10, 2009, 3:42 PM**

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deasine · #**9443** Posted **Sep 10, 2009, 4:27 PM**

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Originally Posted by argon007

but what about 399 B-Line when the 98 B-Line bus are now used on the 480 route?

after march next year... they will introduce 399 B-Line but the 98 B-Line bus are now used on the 480 route until summer semester at ubc begins. i worry about that the 98 B-Line buses are not enough to use as 399 B-Line from march to may 2010.

Well there are still those raised artics that can be used for the 480 route. They did their job well, and I rather be on a raised bus in rush hour than a low floor: the ride just feels more comfortable. Now that there isn't the 490, 491, etc. routes, there are more than enough raised artics for the entire 480 fleet.

twoNeurons · #**9444** Posted **Sep 10, 2009, 5:09 PM**

A raised artic

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Vancity · #**9445** Posted **Sep 10, 2009, 5:12 PM**

I wouldn't mind having one of those double decker buses (commonly used in HK and England) here in Vancouver. Can those double decker buses fit under the bus tram lines that are almost all over Vancouver? Richmond doesn't have any of those lines above, so we sure could use some of them double stacked buses :]

Gordon · #**9446** Posted **Sep 10, 2009, 5:17 PM**

Protrans B.C. is running 16 trains on a daily basis, which leaves a fair bit capacity available, they won't need any new orders in the near future.

Is there still a crowding problem on downtown platforms during the PM peak?

That double decker articulated trolley looks cool.

Zassk · #**9447** Posted **Sep 10, 2009, 5:26 PM**

Is ProtransBC contractually obligated to run half of the trains to YVR? If not, then they could run 2/3 of trains to Brighouse during the peak rush, and the headways at YVR would still be more than sufficient. Brighouse could certainly use the additional trains.

officedweller · #**9448** Posted **Sep 10, 2009, 5:31 PM**

Just noticed a sign on a pole next to The Bay on Georgia St. directing people to the Canada Line - it's in the Canada Line blue with the train symbol and an airplane synbol and YVR.

osirisboy · #**9449** Posted **Sep 10, 2009, 5:38 PM**

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Originally Posted by Vancity

I wouldn't mind having one of those double decker buses (commonly used in HK and England) here in Vancouver. Can those double decker buses fit under the bus tram lines that are almost all over Vancouver? Richmond doesn't have any of those lines above, so we sure could use some of them double stacked buses :]

hmm well they have those big double decker sightseeing buses that started this year (oddly enough they all have oregon plates) so im assuming they would fit

WarrenC12 · #**9450** Posted **Sep 10, 2009, 5:41 PM**

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Originally Posted by Gordon

Protrans B.C. is running 16 trains on a daily basis, which leaves a fair bit capacity available, they won't need any new orders in the near future.

I'm not sure why you say that, 16 is the max they can run using Translink's standard of having 20% in reserve.

Gordon · #**9451** Posted **Sep 10, 2009, 5:46 PM**

Expo & Millenium line run 7-10% in reserve

This information came from Intransit B.C.

NucksFanInVan · #**9452** Posted **Sep 10, 2009, 6:04 PM**

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Originally Posted by Gordon

Expo & Millenium line run 7-10% in reserve

This information came from Intransit B.C.

Really? What's your source, and how current is the info?

Gordon · #**9453** Posted **Sep 10, 2009, 6:08 PM**

Rhe Info came through Jhennifer (BuzzerBlog) from intransit B.C. Porbably this morning.

twoNeurons · #**9454** Posted **Sep 10, 2009, 6:29 PM**

20% reserve is a lot of reserve.

If 50 trainsets are run at peak, then 10 are kept in reserve. What are the changes that 10 trains are broken at one time. Off-peak times would have more like 20% reserve.

cabotp · #**9455** Posted **Sep 10, 2009, 6:37 PM**

It is not that they are broken or malfunctioning, but that they are probably not in service due to regular preventative maintenance. Although some are probably broken as well.

Yume-sama · #**9456** Posted **Sep 10, 2009, 6:47 PM**

It is amazing that Tokyo Metro is the most used in the World, and still regarded as unpopular and barely used. The press has labeled it a White Elephant, as it is not making any money. The subway is usually quite empty, but the infrastructure is amazing, and the stations are superb (my favorite is Roppongi, the deepest station in Japan, talk about a glitzy station). Though, with the introduction of the Fukutoshin Line, it is expected to gain some more popularity.

mrjauk · #**9457** Posted **Sep 10, 2009, 7:06 PM**

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Originally Posted by vanman

Check out how skytrain's annual ridership numbers stack up to other metros around the world:

from SSC
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=946232

Keep in mind that this doesn't include the Canada Line's #s which are probably pretty close to 80,000/day or 29,000,000/yr.

So, with the Canada Line, we get to about 104 Million per year. Add in the Evergreen and UBC line extensions and I think we would get close to 200 million annually, which would not be bad considering our relatively small population.

WarrenC12 · #**9458** Posted **Sep 10, 2009, 7:57 PM**

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Originally Posted by mrjauk

So, with the Canada Line, we get to about 104 Million per year. Add in the Evergreen and UBC line extensions and I think we would get close to 200 million annually, which would not be bad considering our relatively small population.

LOL, you realize you're casually predicting a tripling of ridership. Lets get a year's worth of stats from the C-Line first.

TransitJack · #**9459** Posted **Sep 10, 2009, 8:29 PM**

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Originally Posted by Gordon

Protrans B.C. is running 16 trains on a daily basis, which leaves a fair bit capacity available, they won't need any new orders in the near future.

Is there still a crowding problem on downtown platforms during the PM peak?

That double decker articulated trolley looks cool.

only 14 trains are being used per day during peak.

mrjauk · #**9460** Posted **Sep 10, 2009, 8:32 PM**

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Originally Posted by WarrenC12

LOL, you realize you're casually predicting a tripling of ridership. Lets get a year's worth of stats from the C-Line first.

I'm being maybe a little bit too optimistic, but given that an 80,000 daily average (7-day period) on the C-Line seems about right, that brings today's numbers to over 100 million annually.

When the M-Line is completely built out, it will mean that a huge number of residents north of the Fraser are within about a 5 t0 10-minute bus ride to a Skytrain station. Ridership will not increase linearly.

By the way, how are ridership numbers calculated? For example, if someone takes the C-Line from Richmond to Waterfront, and then transfers onto the E-Line to Stadium, is that counted as one ride or two?