Canada Line | Completed

[Locked In]

Originally Posted by WarrenC12

Hah, magnetic north shifts around. I think the simplest explanation is the correct one here... contractor error.

I initially wondered if the orientation of the compass was an error, but I suspect it's actually intentional. The direction of the north arrow is parallel to the street grid, pointing in the direction most people (I think) would call north on Granville. So when you pop out of the train station and want to know which way to walk to head north, you follow the direction of the arrow.

Make sense?

[lightrail]

Given all the counting sensors on the Canada Line, surely somebody has some numbers for us. So come on InTransit, release those numbers.

Question really for Translink, but when is Intransit required to increase train service? Is there a magic number?

I have images of People lined up outside stations, crowded trains, and InTransitBC only looking at the passenger counts and their contract and saying, "no, still don't need to increase the trains yet".

[WarrenC12]

Originally Posted by Locked In

I initially wondered if the orientation of the compass was an error, but I suspect it's actually intentional. The direction of the north arrow is parallel to the street grid, pointing in the direction most people (I think) would call north on Granville. So when you pop out of the train station and want to know which way to walk to head north, you follow the direction of the arrow.

Make sense?

Ya fair enough. Typically there's 3 versions of North:

1. True North - directly towards the north pole
2. Magnetic North - as determined by the compass, it shifts around, but it always to the east of true north for us in this part of the world.
3. Map North - unofficial, but straight up on a map grid

Your explanation makes sense since roads downtown run NE/SW and I think this was mentioned as pointing NW. Still, it's a stretch and a little weird for them to do it that way.

[Unregistered]

The #480 UBC – the only Richmond bus that still runs into Vancouver – experienced very heavy loads today, as well, and shuttles were added to help ease those conditions.

They forgot about the 430.

[teriyaki]

Originally Posted by Unregistered

They forgot about the 430.

and the 410.

[lightrail]

Originally Posted by teriyaki

and the 410.

Where does the 410 enter Vancouver? I thought it ran east-west from Richmond to Surrey?

[deasine]

Originally Posted by argon007

what about the off work time and off school time in the afternoon? i mean what heaviest station or transit exchanges in the afternoon between 3:00pm - 6:00pm?

i think they need to use 98 B-Line bus to help ease those conditions. if so, what about the 399 B-Line next year?

the buses are not enough eh?

Actually, many of the 98 B-Line buses are now used on the 480 route, replacing the old raised artics/regular buses.

[officedweller]

Originally Posted by Locked In

I initially wondered if the orientation of the compass was an error, but I suspect it's actually intentional. The direction of the north arrow is parallel to the street grid, pointing in the direction most people (I think) would call north on Granville. So when you pop out of the train station and want to know which way to walk to head north, you follow the direction of the arrow.

Make sense?

It would, except the arrow at Yaletown-Roundhouse doesn't follow that logic:

Pic by Tafryn:

[cabotp]

Originally Posted by clooless

One weird problem I had, however, was on my trip back to the airport the TVM at Broadway would not let me Addfare my transfer to two zones as the machine flashed a message that my ticket was not valid. I only had $2.50 on me when I boarded the 9 at Main Street, so I thought I could just pay the Addfare with my debit card at the Skytrain station. Was I wrong?

On tuesday I grabbed a bus and paid $2.50 got to Joyce and then inserted my transfer card and seleted add fare 1-2 zones and paid the rest with my debit card. So I don't see why it shouldn't work on the C-line TVMs. Next maybe ask an attendant if one is available

[teriyaki]

Originally Posted by lightrail

Where does the 410 enter Vancouver? I thought it ran east-west from Richmond to Surrey?

It crosses over the bridge and heads into New Westminster to terminate at 22nd Street Station. Technically "heads into Vancouver"

[nova9]

Originally Posted by cabotp

On tuesday I grabbed a bus and paid $2.50 got to Joyce and then inserted my transfer card and seleted add fare 1-2 zones and paid the rest with my debit card. So I don't see why it shouldn't work on the C-line TVMs. Next maybe ask an attendant if one is available

Can you also choose the addfare option for non-magnetic addfare. On the e and m line TVMs there are 2 options for addfares. I would just get the non-magnetic strip addfare (meant for monthly pass holders I would guess) and make sure to keep your original transfer as proof of purchase.

[cabotp]

Originally Posted by nova9

Can you also choose the addfare option for non-magnetic addfare. On the e and m line TVMs there are 2 options for addfares. I would just get the non-magnetic strip addfare (meant for monthly pass holders I would guess) and make sure to keep your original transfer as proof of purchase.

Hmm not sure. I honestly don't take transit all that often. It does say on the translink website that you can add fare your monthly pass to get onto the WCE. But mentions nothing about doing to just add a zone. Although I'm sure you could do it.

[BCPhil]

Originally Posted by cabotp

Hmm not sure. I honestly don't take transit all that often. It does say on the translink website that you can add fare your monthly pass to get onto the WCE. But mentions nothing about doing to just add a zone. Although I'm sure you could do it.

You can add any fare. There are a lot of people who live in Vancouver proper and have a 1 zone pass. It doesn't make any sense to make them buy a full 2 zone ticket if they want to go to Metrotown, they can just add fare onto the 1 zone for 90 minutes.

I worked with a guy that lived in Surrey and commuted downtown. Because of our office hours, he wouldn't leave work until after 6pm in the evenings, thus hitting the first zone boundary after 6:30pm every day. So he bought only 1 zone passes for downtown, and then add fare them when he got on the bus in the morning in Surrey. After 6:30pm his 1 zone pass was good everywhere. He did the Math and it saved him a bit every month.

[argon007]

Originally Posted by deasine

Actually, many of the 98 B-Line buses are now used on the 480 route, replacing the old raised artics/regular buses.

but what about 399 B-Line when the 98 B-Line bus are now used on the 480 route?

after march next year... they will introduce 399 B-Line but the 98 B-Line bus are now used on the 480 route until summer semester at ubc begins. i worry about that the 98 B-Line buses are not enough to use as 399 B-Line from march to may 2010.

[teriyaki]

Originally Posted by argon007

but what about 399 B-Line when the 98 B-Line bus are now used on the 480 route?

after march next year... they will introduce 399 B-Line but the 98 B-Line bus are now used on the 480 route until summer semester at ubc begins. i worry about that the 98 B-Line buses are not enough to use as 399 B-Line from march to may 2010.

New busses on the way? We can only hope theres some coming out the pipeline.

[argon007]

* RICHMOND-BRIGHOUSE and BRIDGEPORT: 6:30-8am
* COMMERCIAL-BROADWAY: 7-8:30am
* PRODUCTION WAY: 8am-9am
* 99 B-LINE (to UBC from Commercial-Broadway): 7:30-9am

what about the off work time and off school time in the afternoon? i mean what heaviest station or transit exchanges in the afternoon between 3:00pm - 6:00pm?

[cabotp]

Originally Posted by BCPhil

You can add any fare. There are a lot of people who live in Vancouver proper and have a 1 zone pass. It doesn't make any sense to make them buy a full 2 zone ticket if they want to go to Metrotown, they can just add fare onto the 1 zone for 90 minutes.

I worked with a guy that lived in Surrey and commuted downtown. Because of our office hours, he wouldn't leave work until after 6pm in the evenings, thus hitting the first zone boundary after 6:30pm every day. So he bought only 1 zone passes for downtown, and then add fare them when he got on the bus in the morning in Surrey. After 6:30pm his 1 zone pass was good everywhere. He did the Math and it saved him a bit every month.

I figured as much and it would be kind of stupid not to be able to add fare to a monthly pass.

[NetMapel]

Curiously, when in the morning do you start paying the full multiple-zone price instead of the reduced 1-zone price after 6:30pm ? Do you just pay 1-zone from 6:30pm to the last bus/train for the day. Then, full-zone prices resume starting with the first bus/train the next morning ?

[CLC]

Originally Posted by Unregistered

They forgot about the 430.

as well as the other 2 buses through Knight street bridge

[vanman]

Check out how skytrain's annual ridership numbers stack up to other metros around the world:

from SSC
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=946232

Originally Posted by JFK

Occit: Sorry I have added Valencia, Venezuela to the list. I have also updated the information for the following cities: Nagoya, Yokohama, Sapporo, Sendai, Busan, Daegu, Daejeon, Gwangju, Incheon, Vancouver, Medellin, Atlanta, Washington, D.C., Buenos Aires, and Glasgow


Metro/Subway Systems -- Annual Ridership -- lastest available statistics -- system entries

ANNUAL
PASSENGERS CITY (YEAR)

3,174,000,000 TOKYO, JAPAN (METRO & TOEI) (2008)
2,573,000,000 MOSCOW, RUSSIA (2008)
2,048,000,000 SEOUL, SOUTH KOREA (Metro & SMRT) (2008)
1,624,000,000 NEW YORK CITY, USA (NYCTA) (2008)
1,460,000,000 MEXICO CITY, MEXICO (2008)
1,388,000,000 PARIS, FRANCE (2007)
1,309,000,000 HONG KONG, CHINA (2008)
1,200,000,000 BEIJING, CHINA (2008)
1,197,000,000 LONDON, UK (2007)
1,122,000,000 SHANGHAI, CHINA (2008)
878,000,000 OSAKA, JAPAN (2007)
832,000,000 ST PETERSBURG, RUSSIA (2007)
700,000,000 CAIRO, EGYPT (2002)
686,000,000 MADRID, SPAIN (2008)
684,000,000 SAO PAULO, BRAZIL (2008)
642,000,000 KIEV, UKRAINE (2007)
642,000,000 SANTIAGO, CHILE (2008)
601,000,000 GUANGZHOU, CHINA (2008)
597,000,000 PRAGUE, CZECH REPUBLIC (2008)
571,000,000 SINGAPORE (SMRT & SBS) (2007)
510,000,000 CARACAS, VENEZUELA (2008)
498,000,000 VIENNA, AUSTRIA (2008)
450,000,000 TAIPEI, TAIWAN (2008)
447,000,000 BERLIN, GERMANY (2008)
427,000,000 NAGOYA, JAPAN (2008)
378,000,000 BARCELONA, SPAIN (2008)
353,000,000 TEHRAN, IRAN (2007)
349,000,000 MUNICH, GERMANY (2008)
331,000,000 ROME, ITALY (2008)
328,000,000 MILAN, ITALY (2007)
325,000,000 ATHENS, GREECE (2007)
315,000,000 MANILA, PHILIPPINES (2007)
310,000,000 DELHI, INDIA (2008)
303,000,000 STOCKHOLM, SWEDEN (2007)
297,000,000 BUDAPEST, HUNGARY (2008)
280,000,000 BUENOS AIRES, ARGENTINA (2008)
278,000,000 KHARKOV, UKRAINE (2007)
278,000,000 TORONTO, CANADA (2006)
262,000,000 MINSK, BELARUS (2007)
257,000,000 BUSAN, SOUTH KOREA (2008)
219,000,000 MONTREAL, CANADA (2006)
215,000,000 WASHINGTON D.C., USA (2008)
210,000,000 SAPPORO, JAPAN (2006)
206,000,000 BANGKOK, THAILAND (2007)
187,000,000 CHICAGO, USA (2005)
184,000,000 HAMBURG, GERMANY (2007)
182,000,000 LYON, FRANCE (2004)
180,000,000 LISBON, PORTUGAL (2007)
176,000,000 BAKU, AZERBAIJAN (2007)
164,000,000 YOKOHAMA, JAPAN (2007)
155,000,000 MEDELLIN, COLOMBIA (2008)
145,000,000 BOSTON, USA (2008)
136,000,000 BRUSSELS, BELGIUM (2008)
135,000,000 RIO DE JANEIRO, BRAZIL (2006)
113,000,000 ANKARA, TURKEY (2007)
111,000,000 BUCHAREST, ROMANIA (1999)
111,000,000 KYOTO, JAPAN (2000)
110,000,000 DAEGU, SOUTH KOREA (2008)
108,000,000 FUKUOKA, JAPAN (2004)
106,000,000 WARSAW, POLAND (2006)
100,000,000 CALCUTTA, INDIA (2000)
100,000,000 SAN FRANCISCO, USA (2007)
92,000,000 KOBE, JAPAN (2000)
92,000,000 NUREMBURG, GERMANY (1997)
92,000,000 TBILISI, GEORGIA (2007)
91,000,000 AMSTERDAM, NETHERLANDS (1997)
86,000,000 BILBAO, SPAIN (2008)
86,000,000 PHILADELPHIA, USA (SEPTA) (2005)
85,000,000 ROTTERDAM, NETHERLANDS (2006)
84,000,000 KUALA LUMPUR, MALAYSIA (2000)
75,000,000 NEW YORK CITY, USA (PATH) (2008)
74,000,000 VANCOUVER, CANADA (2008)
74,000,000 LILLE, FRANCE (2004)
73,000,000 INCHEON, SOUTH KOREA (2008)
73,000,000 SHENZHEN, CHINA (2005)
71,000,000 TOSHKENT, UZBEKISTAN (2007)
70,000,000 NOVOSIBIRSK, RUSSIA (2007)
68,000,000 ISTANBUL, TURKEY (2008)
64,000,000 OSLO, NORWAY (2005)
58,000,000 HELSINKI, FINLAND (2008)
58,000,000 MARSEILLE, FRANCE (2003)
58,000,000 SENDAI, JAPAN (2008)
46,000,000 YEKATERINBURG, RUSSIA (2007)
42,000,000 LOS ANGELES, USA (2007)
42,000,000 TOULOUSE, FRANCE (2004)
38,000,000 NEWCASTLE, UK (2006)
37,000,000 COPENHAGEN, DENMARK (2006)
35,000,000 PYONGYANG, NORTH KOREA (1994)
34,000,000 ATLANTA, USA (2007)
33,000,000 NIZHNI NOVGOROD, RUSSIA (2007)
30,000,000 IZMIR, TURKEY (2005)
29,000,000 DAEJEON, SOUTH KOREA (2008)
29,000,000 NAPLES, ITALY (2006)
29,000,000 SOFIA, BULGARIA (2004)
23,000,000 RENNES, FRANCE (2004)
18,000,000 VALENCIA, VENEZUELA (2008)
18,000,000 HIROSHIMA, JAPAN (2005)
18,000,000 MIAMI, USA (2007)
17,000,000 GWANGJU,SOUTH KOREA (2008)
17,000,000 YEREVAN, ARMENIA (2007)
16,000,000 BRASILIA, BRAZIL (2002)
15,000,000 GLASGOW, UK (2008)
14,000,000 BALTIMORE, USA (2007)
12,000,000 SAMARA, RUSSIA (2007)
11,000,000 DNIPROPETROVSK, UKRAINE (2007)
9,000,000 PHILADELPHIA, USA (PATCO) (2007)
7,000,000 CLEVELAND, USA (2007)
7,000,000 KAZAN, RUSSIA (2007)

Keep in mind that this doesn't include the Canada Line's #s which are probably pretty close to 80,000/day or 29,000,000/yr.