Edmonton Public Transit

[noodlenoodle]

I concur, I would have much preferred a 102/103 ave split through Oliver, with it heading up to 104 and along the favored route at 121 st.

[feepa]

[0773|=\]

...I still think it should've gone down 87th to Health Sciences. I just hope this line can operate at a reasonable speed. Perhaps there could be a link? Or might that be impossible if this new route uses a low-floor LRT...?

I'm a little disappointed, but there's definitely some good TOD opportunities, and this could be a real boost to Stony Plain Road in the 149th to 156th street area. I guess I'll live with it.

[ue]

i don't see why people think it will be slower, just cause it's low floor doesnt mean it's slower. it's the same speed. the only thing that'd make it more slower is more frequent stops which could happen in oliver/downtown. overall i'm impressed (save the 102/103 thing...imagine the potential). if they were going high floor i woulda said 87av tho.

[naidoo]

People, it's:

20-25 min Lewis Estates --> Downtown

20-25 min MWTC --> Downtown

About the same operating speed as current LRT.

13 stops for the full line, 7 west, 6 southeast

[newfangled]

I just want to say buh-bye to the Pizza 73 and Cashstore at 124/104. Your end is so nigh.

[Coldrsx]

the more i look at the lines the more i like them... although i think 1 stop at WEM/MIS would be far better... elevate it over 170st with the station on top.

i really like the 124st station idea

[0773|=\]

^Concur.

I hope that they can integrate the WEM station well with the mall. Putting the station out by the transit centre IMO is a mistake for such a big tourist attraction. If a station directly attached to the mall is possible (read: staying indoors between the station and the mall) DO IT.

[Coldrsx]

City Proposes Southeast and West LRT Routes


September 03, 2009

Council public hearing November 9, 2009
Following extensive public consultation and technical analysis, the City of Edmonton has arrived at recommended routes for West and Southeast LRT.

“Ultimately Council has the final decision, but we feel these individual routes offer the greatest long-term benefit to citizens right across the LRT network,” said Bob Boutilier, General Manager, Transportation. “These routes are also the most responsive to LRT route evaluation criteria set by Council, as well as the long-term LRT Network Plan.”

Proposed:
The West LRT corridor goes from Lewis Estates east along 87 Avenue, then north on 156 Street. It connects to downtown via Stony Plain Road and 104 Avenue, providing a surface (street level) connection to Grant MacEwan College.
The Southeast LRT corridor travels north from Mill Woods Town Centre on 66 Street, continuing north on 75 Street. It then uses Wagner Road to extend either over or under the CP Rail line to 83 Street. From there, it proceeds along 83/85 Street north to 95 Avenue, then along 95 Avenue to Connors Road with the route crossing the North Saskatchewan River, either replacing the Cloverdale footbridge or adjacent to it, and east into downtown to connect to the proposed Quarters development, providing a surface (street level) connection to Churchill LRT station, ultimately connecting to Grant MacEwan College.
A study to define future surface connections downtown between the West and Southeast LRT lines is expected to be complete in the summer of 2010. This study will review major activity centres and how those areas are best served by transit and LRT routes, in keeping with Edmonton’s Downtown Plan.

There are seven stations initially planned for the West LRT route, and six for Southeast LRT. Travel time from Mill Woods to Downtown will be 20-25 minutes. Travel time from Lewis Estates to Downtown will be 20-25 minutes.

The estimated cost for each of the recommended Southeast and West LRT corridors is $900 million to $1.2 billion (2009 dollars). The short-medium term ridership for each line will be an estimated 45,000 riders per day by 2040.

These LRT route recommendations will be reviewed by City Council at a public hearing in November 2009. Prior to that, the City of Edmonton is holding a series of public information sessions where interested citizens can learn more: Sept 21 and 23 (Southeast LRT) and September 29 and 30 (West LRT) at designated locations.

“Defining new LRT corridors this year will help the City plan and develop the infrastructure it needs to serve increased demand for public transit in future,” added Boutilier. “New LRT routes will connect more people and places in Edmonton, offering better access, more convenience and greater ridership.”

In October 2008, the City of Edmonton initiated a study to re-evaluate potential West LRT routes in response to an overall shift in the City’s strategic planning direction, moving from the historical objective of minimizing travel time towards a combination of travel time and shaping land use.

No funding is currently in place to build either of these LRT routes. Given the significant cost of implementation, funding will need to be secured from other levels of government.

For more information:
Bob Boutilier

Title General Manager, Transportation
Telephone
780-496-2808

http://edmonton.ca/city_government/news/2009/city-proposes-southeast-and-we.aspx

[Coldrsx]

"The estimated cost for each of the recommended Southeast and West LRT corridors is $900 million to $1.2 billion (2009 dollars). The short-medium term ridership for each line will be an estimated 45,000 riders per day by 2040."

...I really hope i do not have to worry about how my wheelchair will get on this on opening day.

[0773|=\]

^Nothing wrong with being realistic, having funds secured earlier than later, and calling it a "pleasant surprise". That being said, we could use these lines tomorrow.

[deedub35]

I would have prefered the high floor 87 avenue route but I like what the city has proposed. Now I am waiting for the NIMBY's along SPR from 124 street to 149 street to pipe up!

[naidoo]

Bob Boutillier says the entire line should be "shovel-ready" in 3-4 years. Therefore, in anticipation for a strong Expo 2017 bid, I suspect the city will try its best to have the line built by at the latest, 2017.

No need to worry about wheelchairs my friend.

[MrOilers]

If we can only have one in the next 5-10 years the West leg should definitely take priority.

[0773|=\]

^Tell that to the Mill Woods residents who have been waiting 30+ years for a promised LRT line.

[Coldrsx]

Originally Posted by MrOilers

If we can only have one in the next 5-10 years the West leg should definitely take priority.

concur in full although i do agree about the 2017 long-shot... it we secured it both lines would be very much needed by then which is realistic conditional obviously on funding.

[Jasper and one o nin]

Originally Posted by Coldrsx

"The estimated cost for each of the recommended Southeast and West LRT corridors is $900 million to $1.2 billion (2009 dollars). The short-medium term ridership for each line will be an estimated 45,000 riders per day by 2040."
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If I had a choice between the AHD or a LRT system that goes from downtown to Millwoods, Westend, and St. Albert - I would take LRT, thank you

[ZiZiPop]

I like both routes. However I don't understand the swing out to 75 at Wagner rd. Going south on 86st. south of Argyll then over to 66th at 38ave. would would put a station right in the Millbourne area. Huge potential there IMO.

With the west, I still feel it should go south at 178st. into Callingwood before going out to AHD. No difference, that I can see, from a P'n'R at Lewis Estate or say Callingwood and AHD, but going through Callingwood also has big potential.

[naidoo]

Could this be a possible Expo site, considering it may now be very LRT transit accessible?

[ue]

Doubt it. Still think it'll be the City Center Airfield. But it's a good idea .