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COMMERCIAL, RETAIL DEVELOPMENT Proj: 9090211-4
Saskatoon, Division No 11 SK NEGOTIATED/WORKING DRAWINGS
River Landing Village, between 2 Ave & 3 Ave on 19 St, S7L
$16,000,000 est
Start: September, 2009 Complete: December, 2010
Note: Working drawings are underway. Sub trade pricings are not being sought at this time. Construction may commence in early Fall 2009. Related Projects are being followed under Project Numbers 9079619, 9090203 and 9090215. Further update early October 2009.
Project: cast-in-place concrete structural frame, structural steel frame, fuel fired heating system, construction of commercial offices and retail developemt.
Scope: 130,000 square feet; 4 storeys
Development: New
Category: Commercial offices; Retail, wholesale services

First report Wed Sep 24, 2008. Last report Fri Jun 12, 2009.
This report Wed Aug 12, 2009.
     
     
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And the hotel component?
     
     
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TB, could you provide the link for this info? Thanks!
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TB, could you provide the link for this info? Thanks!
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=COMMERCIAL%2C+RETAIL+DEVELOPMENT+Proj%3A+9090211-4

     
     
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Haha, funny my first Google search only returned a link to this thread. Thanks.
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I think he meant this one...

http://www.journalofcommerce.com/cgi-bin...bf3ebd2&projectid=9090211&region=western

Other question,

Does anybody know if 275 second is going to put in a new parkade or renovate the old one? It's such a nasty looking thing...
     
     
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I think he meant this one...

http://www.journalofcommerce.com/cgi-bin...bf3ebd2&projectid=9090211&region=western

Other question,

Does anybody know if 275 second is going to put in a new parkade or renovate the old one? It's such a nasty looking thing...
I noticed today that the owner of the lot (who is now the company planning to build 275) began painting the exterior of the parkade charcoal! SO this must mean they are going to be commencing woon, as well the whold side of the parkade and side of flint is painted black. Lets keep our fingers crossed.
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thanks kruzat I was offline but that is the link
     
     
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Station 20 West short on cash
Project requires $1.25 million before construction can start

By Lana Haight, The StarPhoenix August 14, 2009

Construction of an inner-city grocery store at Station 20 West is on hold while organizers work to raise more money to build the facility.

"It's better to have all the money in hand," said Station 20 West Community Enterprise Centre project manager Paul Wilkinson.

"We have enough to put the foundation in, but would it be prudent to do that without having the money for the rest of the building?"

On Monday, Saskatoon city councillors will be asked to pass a motion that would prohibit city administration from issuing a building permit until "a complete and verifiable capital plan is presented in confidence to the satisfaction of city council," says a report written by a city administrator.

Wilkinson says his group is not being singled out, but that he's been told this will be the city's standard practice for private-sector projects from now on.

"They want to be sure all the money is in place to finish a project before it's started. We're not unhappy about this," said Wilkinson, who is confident the remaining $1.25 million will be raised within the next few months.

The future of the Station 20 West Community Enterprise Centre was put in jeopardy last year when the Saskatchewan Party government withdrew an $8-million funding commitment made by the previous NDP administration. That sent supporters of the project back to the drawing board.

The centre, which would include a co-operative grocery store, a community kitchen, a large multipurpose room and offices for community organizations, has been redesigned for a second time and is now expected to cost about $5 million to build.

Three organizations have agreed to provide long-term interest-free loans totalling $550,000.

Another $1.2 million has been donated or pledged by "serious" organizations that Wilkinson would not name at their request, and the centre's board expects to qualify for a $2-million loan.

That leaves $1.25 million to be raised before spring, which is when Wilkinson now hopes construction on the 29,000-square-foot building will start.

But the delay in construction means city council will need to extend a deadline for the ground-breaking from this fall to the fall of 2010. The city sold the land to the centre's board for $1 with the understanding that if construction did not start within a set time, the city would buy back the land.

Those behind the project are hoping for a large contingent of supporters to come out to Monday's council meeting when councillors will also discuss the extension.

"Your attendance is really appreciated to demonstrate the depth of community support. Please bring friends," says an e-mail being circulated this week by Child Hunger and Education Program, one of the prospective tenants of the centre.

"We will greet you with . . . Station 20 West buttons on hand for you to wear at the (meeting)."

The Station 20 West presenters will also ask council to endorse the inner-city project and support the fundraising efforts as they go to government, corporations and other sectors of the economy. The fundraising drive will take on a higher profile this fall with the launch of a campaign, said Wilkinson.

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River Landing budget balloons by $6.3 million

By David Hutton, The StarPhoenix August 14, 2009

The budget for River Landing has gone up for the second time this year, with city council to consider a $6.3-million increase to the project Monday to cover construction increases.

The extra costs deal primarily with the riverfront area of River Landing Phase 2, west of Idylwyld Drive. The west riverfront area, to be completed by late 2011, will include a pedestrian bridge, landscaping and trails, a small boat dock and cleanup of the former A.L. Cole pumphouse.

The city is banking on recovering the cost overruns through the increased value of the land it is selling in the area, reducing the impact on taxpayers, said Sandi Schultz, the city's manager of special projects. The value of city-owned parcels of land, including the A.L. Cole site and the land parallel to the Idylwyld bridge slated for a restaurant and an apartment complex, has increased according to a new appraisal, a city report says.

The total revenue from land sales adds up to more than $15 million, including the Ecovillage sustainable housing development and Lake Placid's $200-million River Landing Village, which the city still hasn't secured payment for.

"The additional cost will be covered by land sales," Schultz said.

A $3.6-million contract to complete pedestrian links to Avenue B and Avenue C, a retaining wall, irrigation and landscaping requires an extra $2 million. An extra $2.3 million is required to complete work to remove the existing lift station, build the west boat dock and install the sewer line fed by the lift station, a city report says.

"The costs are required to complete the plan as it was designed several years ago," said Coun. Charlie Clark. "Since we're part of the way there I don't think we have a lot of choice.

". . . A lot of the amenities that are required there are pretty essential to finishing the plan that has been pre-determined for some time. It's hard to go back from what that overall design is."

If the city is unable to sell the land, the replacement of the lift station and the construction of the boat dock and the east pedestrian route would be delayed, the report says.

The increase, if approved by council, would bring the total capital cost of River Landing, originally budgeted around $35 million, to $66 million, funded through provincial and federal grants, land sales and city borrowing. The cost increases during the past five years are linked to rising construction costs and unforeseen land contamination and environmental cleanup, Schultz said.

Elsewhere at River Landing, the fences around the small Isinger Park off Avenue C came down last weekend, Schultz said.

City officials have presented their business case to the federal government to retain funding for the Art Gallery of Saskatchewan, which is slated to become the area's "destination centre" on the Persephone Theatre site, but they haven't heard any feedback yet on the plan.

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I have to wonder about how construction costs are estimated on projects like these. Do they not factor in year-to-year increases in labour and materials?
     
     
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I think it would have also helped save on the overall cost if they just pushed the pace a bit more in previous years rather than dragging it out so long. The west side phase just seems to be taking forever with very little day-to-day or week-to-week progress when I drive or walk by the area.

I still haven't seen any cars parked at the coloured houses by the Station 20 West location and only a few cars spread out in the parking lot of the large apartment/condo (?) building. This whole development seems to be struggling from the looks of things so far.
     
     
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My wife pointed out to me that the final demolition for the Pleasant Hill revitalization project has finished: all of the houses that were on the 20th St. and Ave. O block are gone now.
     
     
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River Landing project faces payment deadline
August 17, 2009 8:48 AM


An end-of-day payment deadline looms today for Lake Placid Developments' proposed $200-plus-million hotel, condo, retail and office project at River Landing.

The company is paying interest on the $4.55 million still owed for the city-owned site, which was due in January.

At that time, Lake Placid cited global financial credit problems for the inability to secure funds to get the project moving. The sale agreement between the city and the company allows the developer to delay the purchase as long as it pays interest.

City council approved an extension until the close of business today on payment for the land. If payment is not made, it will be at the discretion of city council on how to proceed.

The amount already invested in marketing the condominium development and concept drawings and other costs mean it will be a difficult project to walk away from, said Coun. Myles Heidt.

There has been high demand for the condos, Heidt said.

"I'm confident," he said. "The man (Lake Placid CEO Michael Lobsinger) has spent a lot of money there already. I'm optimistic."

The former Gathercole site has been waiting for a groundbreaking for years.

In February 2007, Remai Ventures Inc. cancelled plans to build what was seen as the cornerstone of the city's long-awaited south downtown development -- a $40-million hotel and mineral spa.

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If payment is not made, it will be at the discretion of city council on how to proceed.
So really if they don't pony up today it means nothing.

That said, I'm still as curious as anyone to see how this the day pans out.
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Moving a house...building a parking lot!?!?

The house next door has also been moved, and the adjacent 2-story apartment building appears ready for demolition.

No idea what's happening here, though I hear gravel parking pads are lucrative.
     
     
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^ Yes, I'm curious to see what the City and Lake Placid work out. Like Coun. Heidt said, this is a difficult project to walk away from with so much invested already.

And who wants to start the process for a brand new proposal all over again anyways?
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Architecture school touted for Sask.

By Laura Keil, The StarPhoenix August 17, 2009

Colin Tennent pictures more architecture and design lovers wandering the cityscape.

The Saskatoon architect is lobbying for a school of architecture in Saskatchewan -- the only province west of Halifax without one.

"We see this as being an incremental step. A lot of the pieces are there."

Tennent chairs a feasibility task force struck by the council of the Saskatchewan Association of Architects in early 2008 to study creating an architecture program.

The group of architects and planners submitted their findings to the association's council in May 2009, with a positive verdict: A school in Saskatchewan could get off the ground.

As past-president of the Saskatchewan association, Tennent believes the school would help create more "quality" places.

"It's pretty easy to create an environment that meets basic needs," says Tennent, who is now assistant vice-president of facilities management at the University of Saskatchewan. He hopes to see more places that are engaging and inviting.

"If you look at the farmers' market, you can see by the attendance, the vibrancy, by the engagement, the excitement, whether you've hit it or not."

While the proposed school could find its home in Saskatoon or Regina, he believes the effects will ripple across the province.

The program would likely be a three- to four-year graduate degree and would accept 25 students each year, he says.

That means Saskatchewan could see young architectural graduates in as few as six years, if discussions continue to move forward.

The committee is working in tandem with a focus group of planners and architects called Great Places, which has arranged for two lecturers to visit Saskatoon and speak about urban design, architecture and urban planning.

The first speaker, Rick Haldenby, is chair of the Canadian University Schools of Architecture and a board member of the Royal Architecture Institute of Canada.

On Tuesday, he will make a presentation on how relocation of the University of Waterloo's school of architecture to downtown Cambridge, Ont., has revitalized the city -- an idea Tennent says would be feasible in Saskatoon.

Haldenby will accompany the members of Great Places and the task force to a meeting with Saskatoon Mayor Don Atchison, city managers, provincial cabinet ministers and city councillors after the evening lecture at the Mendel Art Gallery. The following day, they will meet with U of S President Peter MacKinnon and the deans of the colleges of arts and science and engineering.

On Aug. 31 and Sept. 1, Jan Gehl, a world-renowned urban designer and architect, will be in Saskatoon armed with a storehouse of knowledge from his projects around the world.

Most recently known for his work to make New York City more pedestrian-friendly, Gehl will speak as part of the Healthy, Liveable, and Sustainable Cities symposium sponsored by the City of Saskatoon, Meewasin Valley Authority and the U of S, among others.

Tennent hopes the talks will generate enthusiasm in a discipline long-neglected in Saskatchewan.

He says demographics are one reason why attracting talented architects to the province is important.

When students leave the province for architecture school, many of those students do not return to the province after completing their education.

"If you consider the demographics in architecture, the trend is pretty much identical to what you're seeing in every other profession in Canada. Within five years, we expect there's going to be a significant drop in the number of architects who are 55 and over."

He worries that the gap may not be filled, as attracting architects to the province is always an issue. A school would create a hub where students and professionals could team up.

Ryan Walker, chair of the regional and urban planning program at the U of S and a member of the task force, says the benefits of the school go beyond the profession.

"It gets people thinking about not only plans about areas and plans for specific buildings, but the spaces in between buildings . . . you start to see in urban areas more than a collection of discrete things."

He defines great places as "where you just want to spend time," such as 21st Street between the Delta Bessborough and Midtown Plaza.

"The question is: How do we appreciate them? How do we reproduce them? How do we consciously, instead of by mistake, create great places?"

He says part of that is creating a culture to challenge citizens, professionals and decision-makers to go beyond the mundane and utilitarian.

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The house next door has also been moved, and the adjacent 2-story apartment building appears ready for demolition.

No idea what's happening here, though I hear gravel parking pads are lucrative.
I've thought (and posted here) that that would be a nice spot for a mini-mall or other retail spot. There are thousands of people living within a few blocks and very little shopping or entertainment in that area.
     
     
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^ Yes, I'm curious to see what the City and Lake Placid work out. Like Coun. Heidt said, this is a difficult project to walk away from with so much invested already.

And who wants to start the process for a brand new proposal all over again anyways?
It's beginning to look like the Lake Placid proposal is dead in the water, too bad it would have been a great addition to Saskatoon.
     
     
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RE: the possible school of architecture.

I think that if the school is to be set up in Saskatoon this presents a great opportunity for the U of S to establish its presence downtown by locating the school there. The benefits of a student population to the vitality of a downtown don't need to be repeated and a school of architecture is especially fitting for the city centre. Not to mention that a landmark building for the school can do a lot to jazz up downtown Saskatoon.

As for the Lake Placid mozza ball that's hanging out there, I'm forcing myself to remain optimistic. Fingers crossed.
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