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Old Posted Aug 13, 2009, 10:41 AM
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This is your Pioneer Park on fewer drugs: Video cameras push crime away

Crime » Dealing is down there, but sellers are moving west.

By Nate Carlisle
The Salt Lake Tribune


Forty years ago, Gerald Robinson brought his children to Pioneer Park to play on the steam engine that sat there. Then Robinson stopped coming to the park, he said, because it looked run down and filled with vagrants.

The steam engine is long gone, but Robinson was back in Pioneer Park on Wednesday, paying bocce with his brother.

"It looks very family-friendly today," said Robinson, a retired optometrist from Centerville.


Brothers Gerald, left, and Keith Robinson play a round of bocce Wednesday in the park. "This is a lot cleaner down here now," said Gerald Robinson of Centerville, "I would not hesitate to bring my granddaughter here." Keith Robinson is from Castro Valley, Calif. The Salt Lake City Police Department put out a six-month review of the cameras saying crime is way down in the park. (Leah Hogsten | The Salt Lake Tribune )


"It's a definite noticeable difference since the cameras were installed, " said Ruth Twitchell employee of Carlucci's Bakery directly across the street from Pioneer Park. She said there appears to be less people loitering since the police have upped their presence. We're asking businesses around Pioneer Park how they like the cameras there. SLCPD just put out a six-month review of the cameras saying crime is way down in the park. (Leah Hogsten/ The Salt Lake Tribune)

Salt Lake City police on Wednesday said drug trafficking in Pioneer Park has disintegrated to just a couple of arrests in the six months since video cameras began monitoring the park.

That has not eliminated the narcotics trade in the surrounding neighborhoods. Police have documented more drugs -- especially crack cocaine -- dealt west of The Gateway, about three blocks from the park. On Tuesday night, narcotics detectives conducted a sweep in that area and netted 22 arrests, said Salt Lake City police Detective Robin Snyder.

"We kind of anticipated that when we put the cameras in the park," Snyder said.

But the news on Wednesday was good for Pioneer Park, which bears historical significance for Salt Lake City but has long been a symbol of homelessness and substance abuse. The construction of The Gateway and new condominiums and businesses west of downtown has helped gentrify Pioneer Park, but residents and workers still complained about the open sale of drugs and the sight of transients sleeping in the park at all hours.

Salt Lake City police installed four video cameras in February. The department released statistics Wednesday showing that since that time, calls for service have fallen to one-half or one-third of what they were in the same months of 2007. (The park was undergoing renovations the first half of 2008.)

There have been only two arrests for drug distribution in Pioneer Park since the cameras were installed, Snyder said.

Ruth Twitchell, an employee at Carlucci's Bakery across from the park, said people used to enter the bakery to ask for change or food. Since the cameras went up, that's stopped, Twitchell said.

"I've heard people walk in here and say Pioneer Park looks a lot different," Twitchell said.

She said the bakery's sales have increased the past few months, though she could not attribute that to the cameras.

When police Chief Chris Burbank introduced the cameras at a news conference earlier this year, he pledged the department would not use the cameras to infringe civil liberties. Snyder on Wednesday said a narcotics lieutenant occasionally monitors the cameras in real time to look for suspicious activity, but no video recordings have been saved as evidence. Video not saved is automatically destroyed after seven days, according to a written policy.

Snyder said the only two arrests attributed to the cameras have been for alcohol offenses.

The area around 200 South and 500 West had nighttime drug dealing before the Pioneer Park cameras were installed, but Snyder said detectives have noticed daytime trafficking has moved there, too.

Narcotics detectives also recently made a sweep of Library Square. Snyder said that area caters to marijuana buyers and sellers, but Snyder did not have available statistics on whether trafficking there has increased since the Pioneer Park cameras were installed.

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Maybe martinis in the Marmalade

Zoning » Bar gets recommendation for conditional use.

http://www.sltrib.com/news/ci_13050098

The Marmalade may finally get its martinis.

By an 8-1 vote Wednesday, the Salt Lake City Planning Commission forwarded a favorable recommendation to the City Council to amend the city's mixed-use zone -- which comprises a five-block portion of west Capitol Hill -- that would allow full-service bars once known as private clubs...


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Old Posted Aug 13, 2009, 2:15 PM
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If the cameras were successful wouldn't we see an increase in arrests?
     
     
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I don't think that the cameras have done anything to reduce crime, they've just moved it away from Pioneer Park, which isn't necessarily a bad thing. There is still probably just as much drug trafficking going on in the city, just less of it at the park now.
     
     
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Delts:

I would be curious to here you explain this quote:

"The Wasatch Front has increasingly become the choice for access to all areas of the West, up to and including the West Coast. "
Well, a lot of big Trucking companies have chosen Salt Lake as thier western most hub to service the West an West Coast.Delta the largest Airline has done the same thing,choosing Salt Lake as it's hub for the interior West & West Coast.I know you asked delts,But in assuming this is sort of what the quote was inplying,I hope it helped.
     
     
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New SLC bar scores 'green' points at City Hall



Green Pig Pub » It has more than lipstick
by Derek P. Jensen
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... Becker specifically praised Green Pig's eco-friendly touches, which include recycled equipment and furniture from the defunct Port O' Call.
"Ninety percent of our materials are recycled," said pub owner Bridget Gordon, who wants to work with local farmers to recycle kitchen food waste. "We really want to be green..."
This is what the building looked like previously:



I think it's a pretty substantial improvement!

http://www.sltrib.com/news/ci_13060343

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Salt Lake City Homeless Programs Get $1.6 Million in Federal Stimulus

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(KCPW News) More than $1.6 million in federal stimulus money will be awarded to homeless programs in Salt Lake City. LuAnn Clark, Salt Lake City director of housing and neighborhood development, says the money is coming at a perfect time to help the city’s growing homeless population.
“With the economy as bad as it is, this is going to be an opportunity to really help people and families who we don’t have the resources to help now, who are in need of this kind of assistance,” Clark says. “So, it’s very exciting for Salt Lake City.”
Five organizations applied for the funds. Mayor Ralph Becker’s staff has recommended giving the bulk of the money to two organizations: The Road Home, for housing the homeless, and the Salt Lake Community Action Program, to help families who are one step away from being on the streets...
http://kcpw.org/blog/local-news/2009-08-...ams-get-1-6-million-in-federal-stimulus/
     
     
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Good, we have a major homless youth issue in this city it seems.
     
     
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... Becker specifically praised Green Pig's eco-friendly touches, which include recycled equipment and furniture from the defunct Port O' Call.
"Ninety percent of our materials are recycled," said pub owner Bridget Gordon, who wants to work with local farmers to recycle kitchen food waste. "We really want to be green..."

Awesome! I walked past here last night after the Twilight concert. It looked really fun.
     
     
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... Becker specifically praised Green Pig's eco-friendly touches, which include recycled equipment and furniture from the defunct Port O' Call.
"Ninety percent of our materials are recycled," said pub owner Bridget Gordon, who wants to work with local farmers to recycle kitchen food waste. "We really want to be green..."

Awesome! I walked past here last night after the Twilight concert. It looked really fun.
It's a cool bar. My father-in-law plays there on Thursdays. But it has the potential to become a douchebag hotspot, since it's near the old Port O'Call.

It is in a great location, though, being right off the Trax stop.
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It's a cool bar. My father-in-law plays there on Thursdays. But it has the potential to become a douchebag hotspot, since it's near the old Port O'Call.

It is in a great location, though, being right off the Trax stop.
Yeah, but this bar has more purpose then Port o cal did. It is leading by example with how eco friendly it is and it seems to have patrons who sincerely want to have fun not just look cool in a bar.
     
     
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Wow, I hated the look of that old lounge that was there before. This place looks really cool. I agree.... a major improvement. I want to go check it out next time I'm downtown.
     
     
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New SLC bar scores 'green' points at City Hall



Green Pig Pub » It has more than lipstick
by Derek P. Jensen
The Salt Lake Tribune



This is what the building looked like previously:



I think it's a pretty substantial improvement!

http://www.sltrib.com/news/ci_13060343
I'm very impressed with the improved appearance. I was looking at the picture trying to figure out where on earth that building was, before seeing the before picture. HUGE IMPROVEMENT.
     
     
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...uuuh? Wasn't that answered by someone previously?
     
     
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SandSailor, it shouldn't be that difficult. My take is that if you look at what is happening here along the Wasatch Front, you can clearly see many companies choosing this location as the hub or access point to other areas of the western United States. You have Cabela's and Ikea that both chose here to locate. You also have the Rockefellars making a substantial investment in the region for shipping and creating an international trade zone. Also, you have Hershey putting in a plant here along with Proctor & 🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵. From these locations they will ship to areas all over the western United States. Delta Airlines has its hub here with direct flights to Hawaii, Tokyo and Paris. In looking at a map and the geography of the west, it only makes the most sense to setup shop in Salt Lake City and ship from here.
     
     
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http://www.sltrib.com/ci_13057078?source=most_viewed

More good news concerning the changing liquor laws here in SLC. Becker is all over it.
     
     
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You were trying harder than you thought.

It's funny that of your first 6 posts on this forum, 3 of them were directed at questioning and attempting to thwart someone else's opinion only then to have you state your own opinion as if it were fact.

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It wasn't that difficult. I asked DELTS for a reply (which never happened) so I asked again. Was that part difficult? Not trying to be rude, but the question was directed at the original poster (DELTS). I just find it funny that some slc forumers (still in the shadow of the much larger and more important phx and Denver metroes) feel this way. I have not read any articles proclaiming slc the new gateway to the West. Denver still has and shall continue to carry that moniker for the foreseeable future. A few truck companies? Delta at slc airport is a good feather in the slc cap, but not in the same category as DIA.
Well he never said it was taking over Denver's status, and in fact never mentioned Denver at all. He mentioned it was a gateway for access in the Western region. That's how I took it. Nothing to get bent over about.
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I think I come across to gruff. I apologize. Just looking to see if there are any articles that support the statement that slc is "increasingly becoming the choice" is all.
     
     
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