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You're just not going to buy the supernatural argument, are you ?
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Gotta add my nod of approval for 2nd Ave Loft exterior, as well. I am glad they kept the mosaic tiling from the 60's, 70's or whenever the building was originally constructed (sorry, didn't do my research). Too often we just rip things down from our past without any appreciation for its historical contribution to a period of architecture. To me, the exterior mosaic just adds to the charm of the building and the unique architecture of downtown.

I know this is all a matter of opinion, but mine supports the look of 2nd Ave lofts. Can't speak much to the interior or quality of reno (although I have seen a show suite), but I commend this developer for taking on the project. Yes, it's no "Ken Achs" development, but not everyone builds to his standards unfortunately (shoudl be noted by the way, Meredian also charges a premium on their products to recover costs. That's fair, but shouldn't be compared to buildings like 2nd Ave lofts).

Ok, enough said. Just wanted to make the point I appreciate the diversity of buildings in Saskatoon's downtown.
     
     
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Burnaby, Saskatoon, Surrey best-run cities: Maclean's
Last Updated: Friday, July 17, 2009 | 2:24 PM CT
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Saskatoon ranked No. 2 overall in a Maclean's magazine study of municipal services across Canada. Saskatoon ranked No. 2 overall in a Maclean's magazine study of municipal services across Canada. (CBC)

Cities in western Canada out-performed the rest of the country in a national newsmagazine's examination of municipal services and value per tax dollar.

Maclean's magazine, which has attracted attention in the past for its annual rankings of universities, delved into local government for its current issue and determined that the best-run city in Canada is Burnaby, B.C.

Indeed, medium-sized cities dominated the top slots of the magazine's study, which looked at a long list of civic services, from snow removal to recreational facilities and evaluated them based on objective criteria. In some cases, the magazine compared things like response times for police and fire services. In others, the magazine looked at the availability of ice time at recreational hockey rinks.

'Saskatoon did fabulously.'—Patricia Treble, Maclean's reporter

"What surprised me the most," said Patricia Treble, one of reporters who worked on the package of articles, "it was the medium-sized cities that did so well."

Treble expected smaller communities would be in a better position to outperform larger centres.

"Actually, a lot of the small cities didn't do well," she told CBC News on Friday. "Fredericton, Kingston and Charlottetown are right at the bottom."

Treble said the magazine engaged a Halifax-based think-tank, the Atlantic Institute for Market Studies, to collect and organize civic data for the rankings.

Treble said she was impressed that Saskatoon ranked as high as it did.

“When I saw Saskatoon was No. 2, I kind of thought, ‘that’s cool,’” Treble said. “Saskatoon did fabulously.”

One of the main measures used in the study was taxation. Treble said many cities fared poorly because of their relatively high tax bills. As an example, Treble cited Ottawa, which ranked number 16.

“It’s had a reputation for great services,” Treble said of the nation’s capital, “but it comes at a very high cost. Their property taxes are really, really high.”

'We pay a lot of attention to quality of life issues.'—Murray Totland, Saskatoon city manager

Treble said the top-ranked cities were able to deliver a range of services for reasonable costs.

"They've figured it out," Treble said. "They figured out how to be both efficient and effective, and I think everyone can take a lesson from that.”

Here are the magazine's top 10 cities:

1. Burnaby, B.C.
2. Saskatoon
3. Surrey, B.C.
4. Vancouver
5. Longueil, Que.
6. Sherbrooke, Que.
7. London, Ont.
8. Saint John
9. Quebec City
10. Toronto

“We pay a lot of attention to quality of life issues,” Murray Totland, Saskatoon's city manager, told CBC News on Friday. “We try and balance the pressures of growth and economic development with providing those quality of life programs and services.”

Totland has been a Saskatoon city employee for 27 years, but only recently was named to the municipality's top administrative position.

“There are pressures,” Totland said about delivering services at a reasonable cost to taxpayers. He said the Maclean’s rankings demonstrate how cities need different revenue streams.

“Having to rely on the property tax as the main source of finance and funding,... it’s becoming more and more apparent that that model is just not sufficient to provide all the different activities and services that our citizens want."

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Burnaby, Saskatoon, Surrey best-run cities: Maclean's
Last Updated: Friday, July 17, 2009 | 2:24 PM CT
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Saskatoon ranked No. 2 overall in a Maclean's magazine study of municipal services across Canada. Saskatoon ranked No. 2 overall in a Maclean's magazine study of municipal services across Canada. (CBC)

Cities in western Canada out-performed the rest of the country in a national newsmagazine's examination of municipal services and value per tax dollar.

Maclean's magazine, which has attracted attention in the past for its annual rankings of universities, delved into local government for its current issue and determined that the best-run city in Canada is Burnaby, B.C.

Indeed, medium-sized cities dominated the top slots of the magazine's study, which looked at a long list of civic services, from snow removal to recreational facilities and evaluated them based on objective criteria. In some cases, the magazine compared things like response times for police and fire services. In others, the magazine looked at the availability of ice time at recreational hockey rinks.

'Saskatoon did fabulously.'—Patricia Treble, Maclean's reporter

"What surprised me the most," said Patricia Treble, one of reporters who worked on the package of articles, "it was the medium-sized cities that did so well."

Treble expected smaller communities would be in a better position to outperform larger centres.

"Actually, a lot of the small cities didn't do well," she told CBC News on Friday. "Fredericton, Kingston and Charlottetown are right at the bottom."

Treble said the magazine engaged a Halifax-based think-tank, the Atlantic Institute for Market Studies, to collect and organize civic data for the rankings.

Treble said she was impressed that Saskatoon ranked as high as it did.

“When I saw Saskatoon was No. 2, I kind of thought, ‘that’s cool,’” Treble said. “Saskatoon did fabulously.”

One of the main measures used in the study was taxation. Treble said many cities fared poorly because of their relatively high tax bills. As an example, Treble cited Ottawa, which ranked number 16.

“It’s had a reputation for great services,” Treble said of the nation’s capital, “but it comes at a very high cost. Their property taxes are really, really high.”

'We pay a lot of attention to quality of life issues.'—Murray Totland, Saskatoon city manager

Treble said the top-ranked cities were able to deliver a range of services for reasonable costs.

"They've figured it out," Treble said. "They figured out how to be both efficient and effective, and I think everyone can take a lesson from that.”

Here are the magazine's top 10 cities:

1. Burnaby, B.C.
2. Saskatoon
3. Surrey, B.C.
4. Vancouver
5. Longueil, Que.
6. Sherbrooke, Que.
7. London, Ont.
8. Saint John
9. Quebec City
10. Toronto

“We pay a lot of attention to quality of life issues,” Murray Totland, Saskatoon's city manager, told CBC News on Friday. “We try and balance the pressures of growth and economic development with providing those quality of life programs and services.”

Totland has been a Saskatoon city employee for 27 years, but only recently was named to the municipality's top administrative position.

“There are pressures,” Totland said about delivering services at a reasonable cost to taxpayers. He said the Maclean’s rankings demonstrate how cities need different revenue streams.

“Having to rely on the property tax as the main source of finance and funding,... it’s becoming more and more apparent that that model is just not sufficient to provide all the different activities and services that our citizens want."

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This really is fabulous news! Again another thing to help curve Saskatoon's tarnished safety image. Really we are quite spoiled here and take it for granted but I have a little theory behind that. I've noticed people in Saskatoon crave being in the ranks of the "big boy" cities of Canada and people really pressure for things to be done well no matter how small. So really we are matching development and city improvements with Canada's more major centres and it's starting to put us on the map!
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Eco-city

While walking around the downtown area and driving around other parts of the city I have noticed so many under utilized areas. This got me thinking of how could the city begin to utilize these spots, naturally I thought of some sort of mixed use development. Then I got thinking that our city is quite spread out for so few people. I have friends that come from Calgary that can't get over how long it takes to get from the east end to downtown.

So with all of this brewing in my head I thought of researching into som eco-city plans and the information I have found has been outstanding! Saskatoon is still small enough to be able to easily implement many eco ideas. One main one that would probably the easiest to implement and for people to accept is zoning to allow an additional 4-6 storys to be built on top of existing lower rise buildings downtown. But instead of just building up we could possibly build them in a terraced interconnected fashion to greatly increase pedestrian interest and elevated green space.

I just thought I'd share some potential ideas and get people thinking about things. Really innovative solutions like this are the answer to humanities environmental problems.
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So just a fun piece of info. I had some friends come to Stoon this weekend for the first time from Calgary and I asked what they liked and disliked about the city. They said that it is greener then most cities, clean and pretty cultured for its size. They also said that the aboriginal population seemed more prominant and accepted here compared to Calgary. Finally they mentioned that the clubs they went to here had a better music then the ones in calgary.

It's always refreshing to hear good news like this
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So just a fun piece of info. I had some friends come to Stoon this weekend for the first time from Calgary and I asked what they liked and disliked about the city. They said that it is greener then most cities, clean and pretty cultured for its size. They also said that the aboriginal population seemed more prominant and accepted here compared to Calgary. Finally they mentioned that the clubs they went to here had a better music then the ones in calgary.

It's always refreshing to hear good news like this
I'm in agreement with the observation on the aboriginal population. A great example of this is the completion of the bronze statue at the foot of the Traffic Bridge depicting Chief Whitecap and John Lake, truly a symbolic turning point in aboriginal/non-aboriginal relations for our city.

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...In 2006, Winnipeg was home to the largest urban Aboriginal population (68,380). Edmonton, with 52,100, had the second largest number of Aboriginal people. Vancouver ranked third, with 40,310. Toronto (26,575), Calgary (26,575), Saskatoon (21,535) and Regina (17,105), were also home to relatively large numbers of urban Aboriginal people.
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I don't believe that last statement, what kind of music/clubs are we talking about?

What did they dislike about the city?
     
     
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I'm in agreement with the observation on the aboriginal population. The completion of the bronze statue at the foot of the Traffic Bridge depicting Chief Whitecap and John Lake was a symbolic turning point in aboriginal/non-aboriginal relations in our city.

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I don't believe that last statement, what kind of music/clubs are we talking about?

What did they dislike about they city?
They were comparing Divas to Twisted Element in Calgary, and well everyone I know has said that, and I say that also. Divas really nails it on with the music and allowing requests.
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They were comparing Divas to Twisted Element in Calgary, and well everyone I know has said that, and I say that also. Divas really nails it on with the music and allowing requests.
I've never been to Divas, but I always hear great things about the music/dance atmosphere. I'll probably tag along with my buddies girlfriend sometime, she and her friends go there occasionally.

I wish we had more Divas-like clubs, but that were not labeled as a gay bar. My guy friends won't go to Divas because its a gay bar, even though they play good music and there is good lookin' ladies (I've been told)...they say they don't want to get hit on by guys, which is understandable, but also unfortunate.

Whatevs, Tiesto is playing Calgary in November

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I've never been to Divas, but I always hear great things about the music/dance atmosphere. I'll probably tag along with my buddies girlfriend sometime, she and her friends go there occasionally.

I wish we had more Divas-like clubs, but that were not labeled as a gay bar. My guy friends won't go to Divas because its a gay bar, even though they play good music and there is good lookin' ladies (I've been told)...they say they don't want to get hit on by guys, which is understandable, but also unfortunate.

Whatevs, Tiesto is playing Calgary in November
HA! That is hilarious your friends are so uncomfortable. It's a really great atmosphere and there are actually alot of straight guys that go there and well if you just enjoy yourself you will have fun but if your awkward like im assuming your friends would be they won't have a blast. I agree Saskatoon is lacking on the club scene besides Divas, although Divas interiors are repulsive . We really need more upscale establishments that play great techno/dance/house and really cater to people who want to dress up a bit etc. The city should really encourage this b/c a strong night life really does attract a youthful crowd and helps establish a cities reputation nationally and internationally.
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... Divas interiors are repulsive...
I would love to see more clubs here. I've never found Divas decorating that bad... I think high ceilings and second level are really neat, and definitely unique in Saskatoon. The place with the truly repulsive interior is Jax Although I have to admit that the last time I went there, they played good music, maybe not the "thumpa-thumpa" of Divas but still entertaining.

I would really like to see a couple more clubs downtown. It would be great to get a more vibrant night life down there and get more foot traffic and maybe some sidewalk patios... really makes a great atmosphere . I think Broadway could also use another bar... maybe a "Flint-like" kind of place. The other area of the city where more bars/restaurants are BADLY needed is the University Area. As much as I enjoy Alexanders once in a while, I'm getting tired of it being the only alternative to Louis within walking distance of campus.

The city really needs to lose it's puritan bylaws regarding bars... a "bar-district" or street would be a great attraction and probably cut down on drinking and driving
     
     
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The decrepit row of bungalows on the north side of 8th between Dufferin and Landsdowne are about to meet their maker, to be replaced by This.



Unspectacular, but a much better use of space further increasing the density of the area. It's all about baby steps.
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Speaking of baby steps... I like how that child is on a leash. haha
     
     
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I don't get the context of that picture. Is that 8th St. mother and child are crossing ? She should really have her head up. Are they coming out of the alley ? So many questions.
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Apparently the "Broadway lifestyle" does not include retail.
     
     
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Let's also hope that the workers on the site have - and use - the proper safety equipment so that this doesn't happen AGAIN!

Saskatoon worker dies in fall from scaffold
Last Updated: Monday, July 20, 2009 | 8:35 AM CT
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The third industrial accident in eight months at a Saskatoon work site has claimed the life of an employee.

Police said a 44-year-old man died late Saturday after falling from scaffolding at an apartment building in the 300 block of Queen Street.

Police Sgt. Brian Sommacal said investigators are not certain whether the man had a safety harness.

"That we're still verifying, but he took a tumble from about 15, 20 feet [4.6, six metres] up," said Sommacal.

On Friday, CBC News obtained government documents showing a 29-year-old man who died on a Saskatoon construction site in June fell three storeys through an open hole in a floor.

Yan Feng Tian died of massive head injuries June 18 while working on a hotel project in the Stonebridge development in the 3000 block of Clarence Avenue.

And last December, 23-year-old cement worker Andrew Smith fell to his death at Broadway Avenue's Luxe condominium development. Smith was not wearing fall protection equipment.

Occupational Health and Safety investigators were on the scene of the latest weekend accident.

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Unspectacular, but a much better use of space further increasing the density of the area. It's all about baby steps.
I think anything new is good news. I like it.
     
     
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Apparently the "Broadway lifestyle" does not include retail.
but it does include old halfton trucks. Yeehaw! Clearly they got mixed up and this is a development intended for Warman.

I would not be so generous as the rest of you. That is prime real estate and it deserves better than suburban stucco townhouses, with a bit of gratuitous rock on the pillars. Hopefully, they will be built as poorly as they are designed, so they fall down in a few years and can be replaced with something that fits the location a little better.
     
     
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HA! That is hilarious your friends are so uncomfortable. It's a really great atmosphere and there are actually alot of straight guys that go there and well if you just enjoy yourself you will have fun but if your awkward like im assuming your friends would be they won't have a blast. I agree Saskatoon is lacking on the club scene besides Divas, although Divas interiors are repulsive . We really need more upscale establishments that play great techno/dance/house and really cater to people who want to dress up a bit etc. The city should really encourage this b/c a strong night life really does attract a youthful crowd and helps establish a cities reputation nationally and internationally.
Some of them are quite stubborn, not into the music and dance as much as myself. They can find tail at one of the other bars just as easily, pumps up their self-esteem or something

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I would love to see more clubs here. I've never found Divas decorating that bad... I think high ceilings and second level are really neat, and definitely unique in Saskatoon. The place with the truly repulsive interior is Jax Although I have to admit that the last time I went there, they played good music, maybe not the "thumpa-thumpa" of Divas but still entertaining.

I would really like to see a couple more clubs downtown. It would be great to get a more vibrant night life down there and get more foot traffic and maybe some sidewalk patios... really makes a great atmosphere . I think Broadway could also use another bar... maybe a "Flint-like" kind of place. The other area of the city where more bars/restaurants are BADLY needed is the University Area. As much as I enjoy Alexanders once in a while, I'm getting tired of it being the only alternative to Louis within walking distance of campus.

The city really needs to lose it's puritan bylaws regarding bars... a "bar-district" or street would be a great attraction and probably cut down on drinking and driving
Louis is too hidden. I only go there when a featured act is playing. I actually think Louis is closed most of the time during summer...(checks website)...yep,

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Its too bad City Council introduced a bylaw prohibiting any additional drinking establishments on Broadway (concerns from Nutana residents about public urination, broken bottles, loud conversations).

A bar street would be ideal. Council has stated they prefer to have bars/pubs located downtown (current zoning is more favorable for those types of uses too). That's where most of the growth will occur in the coming years.

I wish we had a higher tolerance for consumption of alcohol, pot, street parties, strippers...the vices of life (some young people enjoy these sorts of thing!...some may disagree ).

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The decrepit row of bungalows on the north side of 8th between Dufferin and Landsdowne are about to meet their maker, to be replaced by This.

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Unspectacular, but a much better use of space further increasing the density of the area. It's all about baby steps.
Baby steps is one way to look at it.

Most would agree: mediocre higher density infill projects > mediocre higher density green field projects at the city's fringes. Everything else is of secondary concern (exterior colors, materials, overall design).

We accept development outside of the core/university for what it is, bland and auto-oriented. There is no in between. Bland is cheap, and auto is easy. We're cheap and easy, has a nice ring to it Of course there are exceptions to this rule, and it does cut both ways...yawn, you get the picture.

Unfortunately, for every multi-unit complex built in the inner city there are several, no, many more equally mediocre complexes built in the outer city.

Baby steps indeed. I'm supportive of this project nonetheless (Vestel makes up for the delay of River Landing Village ).

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Disappointing for sure. 8th has one of the largest concentrations of retail space in the city. It makes too much sense to have some retail space available. What could be successful there? I suppose the market decides...not sure a Timmy's or Starbucks would receive council's approval. I recall them voting down the commercial/medical complex proposal at 8th and Broadway a few years ago (land is currently vacant). Most objected because the Tim Horton's drive-thru queue could not accommodate the projected traffic volume (made that mistake at a few Tim locations in this city).

I'm no booster of Tim's, but when they're built and sited appropriately, auto and pedestrian traffic always increases in the immediate area (increasing car traffic is good because it leads to alternative transportation/land uses...as long as the roads aren't widened for more cars ).

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but it does include old halfton trucks. Yeehaw! Clearly they got mixed up and this is a development intended for Warman.

I would not be so generous as the rest of you. That is prime real estate and it deserves better than suburban stucco townhouses, with a bit of gratuitous rock on the pillars. Hopefully, they will be built as poorly as they are designed, so they fall down in a few years and can be replaced with something that fits the location a little better.
Fire consumes it just before tenants move in. The developers rethink things and decide a concrete/steel structure is more appropriate (The elusive fairy tale ending!).

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Let's also hope that the workers on the site have - and use - the proper safety equipment so that this doesn't happen AGAIN!

Saskatoon worker dies in fall from scaffold
Last Updated: Monday, July 20, 2009 | 8:35 AM CT
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The third industrial accident in eight months at a Saskatoon work site has claimed the life of an employee.

Police said a 44-year-old man died late Saturday after falling from scaffolding at an apartment building in the 300 block of Queen Street.

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Geez, we're racking up the construction deaths like it ain't no thing. Didn't the province increase the fines for workplace safety violations. I remember reading "changes are coming" after the accident at Luxe.
     
     
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