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Old Posted Jul 6, 2009, 11:30 PM
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I doubt that it will go in service before BC day because Granville Mall opening (July 25th) is the last celebration before the whole line opens. That was noted in another post as well...
I think you're confusing when that road section will be opened versus when the underground line will be open.
     
     
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Old Posted Jul 6, 2009, 11:38 PM
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Psht. Who needs testing? If it works for Microsoft~
We can do what Google does and open it tomorrow, but in Beta.

Canada Line: Beta. You can have a sign that reads Personal Preview only, not intended for a Production Environment.

It can be free until the bugs are worked out, but because it's free, no complaining if it breaks down and makes you late. No guarantees, it might close down mid day to fix something and you need to find a different way home. And no heels or sandals.

But maybe they should have it open on the 25th to go with the open house. Maybe if you stick around to the end of the event they'll say you can ride it home.

I went past Bridgeport Station last week while they were doing the train testing and they are working quite hard to get the bus loop all done. So it really does seem like they are in a hurry to get it all done ASAP.

If they are still doing testing and if you want to check out the system in action, I recommend driving up to the top of the new parkade at Bridgeport Station (the part that's open). You can see a lot from up there.
     
     
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Old Posted Jul 7, 2009, 12:15 AM
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Not a transit user, but I just heard about the fare regime for the Canada Line, which seems kind of steep.

Vcr -> YVR - $6.25 or $12.50 return. (apparently only 10% of the C-Line's traffic will head to YVR... ergo the $2.50 premium each way)

Vcr -> Rmd - $3.75 or $7.50 return (~same distance as YVR)
     
     
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Old Posted Jul 7, 2009, 12:23 AM
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I think you're confusing when that road section will be opened versus when the underground line will be open.
how? I know that of course the underground line can open before Granville st. does....but read this: (just one post above)

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On Saturday July 25th, Granville Street downtown will be hosting GRANVILLE SHOWCASE, a premier, live entertainment event. An anticipated 20,000 people from Metro Vancouver will flock to Granville Street to participate in the final Canada Line supported celebration prior to the grand opening of the new line.

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Old Posted Jul 7, 2009, 1:05 AM
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Not a transit user, but I just heard about the fare regime for the Canada Line, which seems kind of steep.

Vcr -> YVR - $6.25 or $12.50 return. (apparently only 10% of the C-Line's traffic will head to YVR... ergo the $2.50 premium each way)

Vcr -> Rmd - $3.75 or $7.50 return (~same distance as YVR)
That is still les than the cost of taking the Airporter bus to/from YVR and alot faster. You would figure on getting a small discount for buying round trip though.

The airport link to the rest of the line was paid for by the airport, so I bet the extra $2.50 goes to airport authority instead of to Translink.
     
     
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Old Posted Jul 7, 2009, 2:20 AM
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found it

4. There will be MORE farechecks than on the skytrain. Many more... BUT.... there are no turnstiles... all stations are designed for them and they are slated for installation late 2010/early 2011.
More fudging on the truth from Gordo and BC Libs. First turnstiles were "always part of the plan", then just after the Olympics and now early 2011

Its not rocket science, they can buy an off the shelf system.
     
     
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Old Posted Jul 7, 2009, 2:26 AM
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^ if you follows the project, fare gates were NEVER part of the plan. And really, fare gates/smart cards is something you don't want to rush as massive expensive mistakes/flaws could occur if they don't get the programming right. On average, it takes about 5-7 years to implement fare gates/smart cards from the research phase to the implementation phase. I'd rather have them take their time....but not an entire eternity.

Smart cards are planned for next year while fare gates by 2011.


And really, every politician/party "fudges" the truth. Surely, you can't overlook the NDP's own fudging...
     
     
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Old Posted Jul 7, 2009, 4:23 AM
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Not a transit user, but I just heard about the fare regime for the Canada Line, which seems kind of steep.

Vcr -> YVR - $6.25 or $12.50 return. (apparently only 10% of the C-Line's traffic will head to YVR... ergo the $2.50 premium each way)

Vcr -> Rmd - $3.75 or $7.50 return (~same distance as YVR)
Ouch. I live near Renfrew Station and planned to catch the C-Line to the airport in September. I wonder how straightforward it will be for me to buy a ticket at the machine...
     
     
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Old Posted Jul 7, 2009, 4:26 AM
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I was wondering then that was going to re-open. I assume this means everything will be back to normal come LabourDay bus changes.
they can still do the bus changes on labour day regardless of when the line opens

maybe it will be redundant service wise but they can have it running and changes the busses a month later
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Old Posted Jul 7, 2009, 4:50 AM
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Not a transit user, but I just heard about the fare regime for the Canada Line, which seems kind of steep.

Vcr -> YVR - $6.25 or $12.50 return. (apparently only 10% of the C-Line's traffic will head to YVR... ergo the $2.50 premium each way)
With fares that high, one could only wonder why it's only at 10%...



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Vcr -> Rmd - $3.75 or $7.50 return (~same distance as YVR)
$3.75 or $7.50 return between Vancouver and Richmond??? Do they even want people to ride this thing?
     
     
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Old Posted Jul 7, 2009, 4:55 AM
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With fares that high, one could only wonder why it's only at 10%...





$3.75 or $7.50 return between Vancouver and Richmond??? Do they even want people to ride this thing?
Same cost as a bus between Vancouver and Richmond now.

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Old Posted Jul 7, 2009, 5:06 AM
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^ yea, i've definitely forgotten it's that expensive now. I've had the benefit of using my awesome UBC U-Pass for the last two years.
     
     
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Old Posted Jul 7, 2009, 5:12 AM
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The Vancouver Richmond c line fare is the same as the current bus fare bus so getting riders shouldn't be be a problem.
     
     
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Old Posted Jul 7, 2009, 5:53 AM
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10%?

why they are pricing so high?

the price should 3.75 * 1.10

then it should be 4.125

why they are pricing so high????
     
     
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Old Posted Jul 7, 2009, 6:57 AM
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The only people that would get messed up by the premium airport fare may be Burkeville residents if their buses connect at Templeton Station.
     
     
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Old Posted Jul 7, 2009, 6:58 AM
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According to Global who had Translink CEO on. Translink gets the money not YVR. No word on if passes will work, if it's "Per direction" etc.
     
     
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Old Posted Jul 7, 2009, 7:14 AM
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I don't get why everyones freaking out about the YVR price...

Pretty much every major city in the world with a train link charges a premium. If not they wouldn't build the damn lines. There isn't a base commuter group that will ever use them so they must charge up to make a basic RTI.

I went to the Olympics in Sydney in 2000 and they basicly did the same thing as us..... built an out of the way train extension to the airport and they also charge a premium and it works!

To be honest they could even charge 15.00 return and I'd still be happy.

Plus I'm sorry last I checked the Airporter is like 20 plus return... and it taken 30-45 to get DT.

Damn Cabs are around 30-40 and you have to deal with a middle eastern guy who tells you to go home and beat your wife (*true story).

Also the fact my company will be very happy that I won't have to expense out 70$ for 3 days of parking now that I can pay a small in comparison 12.00$

So anyways...
     
     
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Old Posted Jul 7, 2009, 7:18 AM
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That would make sense though, since all fares would be processed through TransLink. The surcharge would then be used to offset operating costs on the line (i.e. payments to InTransitBC).
I wonder whether payments to InTransitBC are based on ridership on each branch or whether it is just total ridership.
     
     
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Old Posted Jul 7, 2009, 9:01 AM
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I don't get why everyones freaking out about the YVR price...

Pretty much every major city in the world with a train link charges a premium. If not they wouldn't build the damn lines. There isn't a base commuter group that will ever use them so they must charge up to make a basic RTI.

I went to the Olympics in Sydney in 2000 and they basicly did the same thing as us..... built an out of the way train extension to the airport and they also charge a premium and it works!

To be honest they could even charge 15.00 return and I'd still be happy.

Plus I'm sorry last I checked the Airporter is like 20 plus return... and it taken 30-45 to get DT.

Damn Cabs are around 30-40 and you have to deal with a middle eastern guy who tells you to go home and beat your wife (*true story).

Also the fact my company will be very happy that I won't have to expense out 70$ for 3 days of parking now that I can pay a small in comparison 12.00$

So anyways...
I've been back in Vancouver for about one year now and take a cab about 2 or 3 times a week and have never had a middle eastern cab driver. Except for a handful of times, they've been from the Indian subcontinent (or South Asia).
     
     
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Old Posted Jul 7, 2009, 2:38 PM
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According to Global who had Translink CEO on. Translink gets the money not YVR. No word on if passes will work, if it's "Per direction" etc.
Then that's not a bad news. People from out-of-town would probably still take the C-line because convience is probably their priority when they visit a new place.

What about the Day Passes? Do you pay extra for going to YVR?
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