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Old Posted Jun 22, 2009, 10:26 PM
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Do I understand correctly? Lake Placid can't get fiancing and needs one more year to maybe start construction? Maybe I am stupid, but this is what I am getting from reading the article above.
Lake Placid is neither a large or established developer. Therefore assuming they have any financiers interested, they would have to pre-sell a higher portion of the project's units to satisfy the lenders - that's in addition to paying higher rates.

Sounds to me like interest in the units, and financing this development, is low. However, I do really hope this project does happen for Saskatoon - and shovels get in the ground in before 2010.

Check and see how their other developments are doing.
     
     
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Old Posted Jun 23, 2009, 2:18 PM
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City, CP agree to study move of downtown yard

City, CP agree to study move of downtown yard

By David Hutton, The StarPhoenixJune 23, 2009 8:46 AM

Canadian Pacific Railway and Canadian National Railway have reached an agreement in principle to move railcar switching out of the downtown core, city council heard Monday.

The move, which would still see trains running through the city, could finally make it possible for the city to extend 25th Street to Idylwyld Drive, city manager Murray Totland told council.

Totland was commenting on a memorandum of understanding between the City of Saskatoon and Canadian Pacific Railway, which was approved by council.

Those two parties have entered into an MOU that allows the design work to continue on the 25th Street extension. That will allow the discussions between the three parties to continue.

"This is a very complex situation," Totland said.

"In order for us to extend 25th we need to relocate (the switching yard). We couldn't build 25th Street without moving that operation out of there."

The city, CP Rail, and CN Rail have been in negotiations for several years on moving the yard out of the north downtown.

Switching of rail cars poses one of the biggest impediments to redeveloping the city yards and the warehouse district along the 25th Street extension.

The moving of switching operations would be accomplished by installing a new rail connection between the CP and CN lines near 11th Street and Dundonald Avenue as part of the Circle Drive South project, Totland said.

Under the agreement, CN Rail would run railcars through the city along CP Rail's main line into CP's yard in Sutherland, he said.

CP would run cars across the city to CN's Chappell Yards south of Montgomery. The new piece of rail would render the downtown switching operations unnecessary.

The city would pay for the capital costs to build the short extension as part of the south bridge project.

The agreement, which isn't legally binding, also provides that the city pay for a risk assessment of up to $250,000 to study the proposed new 25th Street rail crossing to ensure it would be safe.

"We're finally getting somewhere," said Mayor Don Atchison.

"This is important," said Coun. Charlie Clark. "We are totally interdependent."

Coun. Pat Lorje said she supports the move but worries about noise from the railroads for the surrounding neighbourhoods around 11th Street.

"I don't want to see us just exchanging one problem for another problem," she said.

The approved alignment of 25th Street, with a three-way intersection at Idylwyld Drive at the CP Rail crossing, was approved late last year.

The alignment would see 25th Street continue from where it ends at First Avenue and wind through the city yards to Idylwyld Drive.

A new $91-million police station is planned on the largest piece of land.

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Old Posted Jun 23, 2009, 3:02 PM
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City, CP agree to study move of downtown yard

"City, CP agree to study move of downtown yard"

Any thoughts on what this would do to the surrounding areas like Montgomery and Cedar Villa?

What about how the south bridge will affect them too? That can only be good, right?

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Old Posted Jun 23, 2009, 5:26 PM
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I think the surrounding neighbourhoods will not be that greatly affected. With proper sound walls built they will experience the same noise levels as any other neighbourhood in the city. As it stands Montgomery is earily quiet so a bit of extra noise won't hurt. But the main thing is if these yards are moved the city can finally commence the redevelopment of the north downtown and we can see a warehouse district spring up over the next few years. This will be a huge cultural attraction for the city as well it will greatly increase the density of the city and will allow for many more people to be living in and using the downtown.
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Souleio now open

Souleio Foods now open! http://www.souleio.com
     
     
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Old Posted Jun 23, 2009, 8:04 PM
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Old Posted Jun 23, 2009, 8:36 PM
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Great to see that Souleio is now open for business. Based on the photos posted, it looks like they have done a remarkable job of renovations providing lots of character.

We have friends coming in this weekend from Calgary, and we will make sure stopping at Souleio is on our 'to do' list as they are food and wine junkies!

I really hope this concept of a market/restaurant is supported by Saskatoon as it is just what the downtown needed! (as well as a 'full' service grocery)
     
     
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Old Posted Jun 23, 2009, 9:16 PM
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Wonderful. I saw it a few weeks back during the Doors Open Saskatoon event, and they were just finishing the floors. I will make a point of dropping by this coming weekend!

     
     
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Old Posted Jun 23, 2009, 9:39 PM
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I hope their pizza is as good as the stuff they make at Christie's.

First time I've had anything appoaching real pizza in Saskatoon.
     
     
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Janis and Remi have out done themselves again, they really know what Saskatoon demands for cuisine so if this doesn't fly I would be very surprised. This will really contribute to the redevelopment of the south downtown as well as help reinforce a growing population downtown by providing some sort of grocer.
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I hope this deal doesn't go down in a similar fashion as the CNR Midtown/Railyard relocation...very likely we will get screwed over in one way or another (CP/CNR are ruthless!).

Anyways, enough with the negativity So I guess this means the original 25th Street alignment (or something very similar) will proceed, that's great! This will also satisfy the owners of the Holiday Inn Express, whom stated their revenues would decline because 25th would not continue its alignment across Idlywyld. Perhaps the downtown Holiday Inn will also proceed, although I am not expecting a ground breaking within the next year, maybe three

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"City, CP agree to study move of downtown yard"

Any thoughts on what this would do to the surrounding areas like Montgomery and Cedar Villa?

What about how the south bridge will affect them too? That can only be good, right?

Thanks
Assuming CN/CPR want to avoid the curves for their new switching line, the length of rail along Dundonald Avenue is comparable in length to the downtown switching line. It may be the proposed location of a new switching line. Of course, the nearby CN yards adjacent to Montgomery would do just as well. Another possibility is laying some track along Circle Drive adjacent to Meadow Green.

The proposed switching line and south bridge will have no impact on Cedar Villa Estates.

With respect to Montgomery, and assuming I have highlighted the proposed location (we're not certain on the location), the impact (noise) felt would be mitigated by a sound attenuation wall which would have been built along Circle Drive regardless of a new switching line.

We will have to wait and see about a potential location.

Wherever the switching line goes (or if it stays put), controversy is sure to follow.


I added the blue line as a potential location for the proposed switching line.

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Old Posted Jun 24, 2009, 4:34 AM
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don't expect dissapointments, my friend.. because you see, they have a tendancy not to dissapoint!
They? Are "they" locals?

Tell them we need some eye candy for downtown, preferably an epic spectacle!

This may sound strange (more so naive), but I cautiously believe your ambiguous postings...and you've posted what? 275 2nd Avenue, and the student residences...I am a desperate man!

(acron...you should post more rumors/news before it goes public, make some stuff up if you must )
     
     
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Old Posted Jun 24, 2009, 5:31 AM
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Thanks for the photos saskcres, the polished exterior will complement and enhance a refreshed 3rd Avenue. Souleio's interior is beautiful, very pleasant! I wonder if the hardwood/trim is original...
     
     
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Old Posted Jun 24, 2009, 3:40 PM
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Thanks for the photos saskcres, the polished exterior will complement and enhance a refreshed 3rd Avenue. Souleio's interior is beautiful, very pleasant! I wonder if the hardwood/trim is original...
Many of the interior finishings are original. There's some info about it in today's paper:

"Boldt said the owners incorporated as much of the original building as possible in Souleio's layout. We restored it as much as we could by refinishing hardwood and crown mouldings and mezzanines and recycling windows, some of the oak paneling we found in the walls..."

http://www.thestarphoenix.com/From+farm+your+fork/1726626/story.html
     
     
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I grew up in Montgomery and I don't think that the addition of the switching line would require the construction of a sound wall, the CN yards are already adjacent to the south edge of the neighbourhood. I do wonder why the switching line would be sited along dundonald and not just incorporated into the CN yard area?
     
     
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I heard an ad on the radio today that said sales for Phase 2 of River Landing Village begin this Friday.
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Errr.... and today I received from Lake Placid this email:

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"The legislation needed to move forward with two of the biggest private developments in the province, both slated for downtown Saskatoon, was passed this week."

Star Phoenix, May 02 2009


We have very exciting news! We are now offering the Residences at River Landing Village for sale! For those of you that have reserved a unit, this is your opportunity to make that unit yours with a 10% deposit. If you have not reserved a unit we encourage you to visit our sales centre, as we have many great suites still available. Please call Richard or Gail at (306) 683-4350 to make an appointment.

As you may know, we have experienced delays due to the current land titles act. As you can see in the quote above from the Star Phoenix, we have overcome these issues. In simple terms, the Government is going to allow multiple strata's (owners and users) on a single title (parcel of land). We are very excited about this progress, and we will begin construction as soon as these changes are complete.

We hope to hear from you soon and encourage you to visit us, as suites are selling quickly!


Sincerely.

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Old Posted Jun 25, 2009, 2:10 AM
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I grew up in Montgomery and I don't think that the addition of the switching line would require the construction of a sound wall, the CN yards are already adjacent to the south edge of the neighbourhood. I do wonder why the switching line would be sited along dundonald and not just incorporated into the CN yard area?
Its odd, and unfortunately those details will likely never be made public.
     
     
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Errr.... and today I received from Lake Placid this email:
They sent that email to everyone back in May. I wouldn't hold you breath on construction starting until the fall or next year sometime as they just applied for a one year extension on reserving the land until they can start construction. I wish they'd just come clean and let everyone know what's going on without these canned PR answers about how everything will be started in a few weeks. It's gone from being delayed into downright stalling.
     
     
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