Canada Line | Completed

[mr.x]

^ which frees up the #8's 40-foot trolleys for other routes.

[twoNeurons]

Originally Posted by fever

Trolleys are slower because they have timing stops. In order to keep to the schedule, when it gets to some predetermined point in its route the bus sits there and annoys everyone on it for five minutes. I avoid trolleys (and buses that aren't b-lines) because I hate timing stops. I don't mind that the trolleys have to slow down at intersections. Maybe I'm impatient, but I'd guess about half the people out there are even more impatient.

To avoid the need for timing stops, I think Translink should plan routes that are as short as possible. The driver should be on schedule at the beginning of the route, then try to get to the end as quickly as possible. The quicker they get there, the more time they have to read the paper.

I don't see how this would avoid timing stops. Timing points are essential for a reliable system that keeps buses on time.

Buses that come reliably and predictably on time are more important than buses that outperform their schedules.

You also don't want drivers getting to their destinations early. you want them on time.

Unless the buses are coming every 10 minutes or less, timing points are vital for people who are making bus to bus transfers and people who schedule their trips. If they're running frequent enough that people don't bother checking a schedule, THEN you can remove the timing points.

If you're on an evening trip, planning on taking the 25 out of Nanaimo back to UBC, for example, it would 🞵🞵🞵🞵 if you had to wait an extra 30 minutes because the bus left early.

Timing points improve reliability and I'm sure that in most cases, you're not waiting for 5 minutes. It may seem like 5 minutes, but it's probably no more than two or three in practice.

[mr.x]

^ there's also the question of who has the right time. A passenger's time and the time the driver has could vary by as much as 10 minutes....and it could even vary from bus to bus.

[deasine]

Originally Posted by mr.x

^ there's also the question of who has the right time. A passenger's time and the time the driver has could vary by as much as 10 minutes....and it could even vary from bus to bus.

Which is why you need to call the TransLink time and sync at least one clock to their time.

[fever]

Originally Posted by twoNeurons

Unless the buses are coming every 10 minutes or less, timing points are vital for people who are making bus to bus transfers and people who schedule their trips. If they're running frequent enough that people don't bother checking a schedule, THEN you can remove the timing points.

Yeah. Trolleys are usually on 10-minute headways. At night, when they run less frequently, buses don't usually get held up so they should be able to meet a schedule without timing stops.

[en2]

Today I had the opportunity to ride the Canada Line through a tour organized by APEGBC (Association of Professional Engineers and Geoscientists of BC).

We started at Waterfront and went to the airport and then went back to Waterfront. We did not get to ride the Richmond section because they said that there was something wrong with it today.

The train stopped at 2 or 3 stations but otherwise just went thru all of the stations.

[mr.x]

WOW...i am totally digging Waterfront Station.

The entrance at CPR Station looks great, love the ceiling and column treatment....same goes for the corridor to the platform.

The ceiling of the platform looks great too, the whole lighting and how the ceiling inverts.


But I still have to say that the signage is a dissapointment.


Thanks for posting!

[Canadian Mind]

Waterfront seems very bright and open for an undergroudn station. With the darkness over the trains, looks almost as if you are outside in the middle of nowhere at night. I love it.

[mr.x]

These doors seem a bit odd.





The white blotches on the black wall bother me. lol.

[Whalleyboy]

those columns remind me of the ones at central city mall

[teriyaki]

Originally Posted by mr.x

These doors seem a bit odd.


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Yea, I believe they're firedoors? But they sure don't look like doors meant to be fitted to a high frequency area, they're more suited for backdoors for emergency access types. Eugh

[Overground]

I agree with the signage. Looks cheap and the text is way too small. And the doors in the corridor...what is with that? It's a high capacity transit area.

The ceilings though look fantastic, especially above the platform with the contrasting black above. Cool.

[mr.x]

Hopefully they'll throw in some ads on the wall, it looks too sterile and it's just begging to be vandalized by a graffiti artist.

[mr.x]

Looks like I was right about them ordering all the signs at once and then either realizing that they forgot to have "WAY OUT" on the signs or that there was a misprint...and to correct their mistakes they slapped on a non-colour matching sticker with "WAY OUT" on all of them.








Translink should've been in charge of making the signage/branding for the line.

[jlousa]

Those doors are firedoors and have mag locks on them. They will be held open at all times by a magnet, in the case of a fire alarm the magnet releases the door and they close. So I won't worry too much about them, you'll never see them in the closed position.

[teriyaki]

Originally Posted by jlousa

Those doors are firedoors and have mag locks on them. They will be held open at all times by a magnet, in the case of a fire alarm the magnet releases the door and they close. So I won't worry too much about them, you'll never see them in the closed position.

Its the same at most schools, or office buildings. They just look out of place, even when they're open. They're much too small. Should have something like 6x wide glass doors using the same magnet mechanism instead.

[mr.x]

Good luck opening those doors from the CPR side if both doors ever close as there appears to be no door handles.

[ambaUp]

Originally Posted by mr.x

Good luck opening those doors from the CPR side if both doors ever close as there appears to be no door handles.

Well the two sets of doors open opposite ways. So you could always use the other set of doors in that case.

[NewfBC]

Originally Posted by Overground

I agree with the signage. Looks cheap and the text is way too small.

Too small? It's meant to be read from on the train mostly. If you're on the platform you should already know what station you're at.

Ron.

[Overground]

Well it's subjective I suppose, I personally find it too small from a design/branding standpoint not a practical standpoint. Surely it doesn't hurt to have it bigger or at least matching the font size of the other Lines. Besides, you'd be surprised how many people when travelling don't know what station they're at even if our system may not be as large as others.