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Old Posted May 30, 2009, 2:38 AM
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Canada Line Parking changes for Vancouver.

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It is anticipated that the opening of the new rapid transit system will attract commuters who will want to park their vehicles on neighbourhood streets and continue travel using the Canada Line. In order to reduce the impact of parking pressures, the development of each Station area plan includes the following considerations and strategies:
• The perimeters of each plan have been based on an approximate 400 meter or 5 minute walking radius;
• Many of the houses in each area have at least one off-street parking space. With the exception of some of the apartment buildings north of King Edward Avenue, multiple dwelling complexes have some underground or surface parking available;
• Resident permit parking (RPP) restrictions are proposed for streets within close proximity to higher density areas, Canada Line station entrances and commercialdistricts.
• Lighter RPO regulations will be implemented on streets further from station entrances in strictly single or two family dwellings areas;
• Time limited areas adjacent to commercial businesses may be converted to meters if more strict regulations are required to encourage turnover;
• Time limited areas in residential zones will be enforced 6 days a week and until 6pm to allow for visitor parking in the evenings & on Sundays;
• Adjustments to street regulations will be made in consultation with residents on a block to block basis as necessary
• Staff will be monitoring Cambie Street for traffic flow, and resident permit regulations may be subject to change in the future if rush regulations are deemed necessary.
• Lanes close to each station will be addressed individually as each has unique needs.

Marine Drive Station
The Marine Drive Station area is bordered by apartment complexes (mostly co ops), a bus loop, an industrial area and a small strip of commercial businesses at the intersection of South West Marine Drive and Cambie Street. Residential parking will be affected in the areas around the apartments as well as the single and two family dwelling homes behind the apartments. A small permit zone will be established in the area to accommodate residents generally living within 300 meters of the station. This permit zone is noted by the shaded area in Appendix A and will be further supported by an RPO zone farther out from the station.

41st & 49th Avenue Stations
Because of Langara College & Oakridge Shopping Center, these stations are destination stops. Except for the multiple dwelling areas southwest of Oakridge, most residential streets within the 400 metre boundary are lined with single or two family dwelling homes where some RPO zones already exist. A permit zone is proposed on streets with multiple dwelling units in the area west of Cambie Street, behind Oakridge Shopping Centre in order to protect those Canada Line Neighbourhood Parking Program streets from commuter parking. Other areas around the stations will have RPO regulations
added where they don’t already exist. This is shown in Appendix A.

King Edward Station (Cambie Village)
This permit area is bound by the small commercial zone at the King Edward Avenue intersection and the larger Cambie Village commercial district further north at 19th Avenue. During construction of Canada Line, a small permit area was added adjacent to Cambie Village. It is proposed that this permit area be maintained and that the area to the south be added to this permit zone. As with the other areas, an RPO system will be implemented in the single or two family areas surrounding the station. This is shown in Appendix A.

2nd Avenue Station
There are currently no residential streets within the 400 metre radius which do not already have parking controls. However, staff will be making minor adjustments to some regulations but none that add or change a Residential Permit system or otherwise require Council approval.

In all areas mentioned in this report, city staff will work together with residents to monitor parking and make adjustments to regulations where needed. Cost of the Residential Parking Permits The costs for Residential Parking Permits are prescribed in the Street and Traffic By-law. This By-law prescribes a range of permit costs based on different geographic areas of the City. The new RPP areas proposed in this report are contained in the area covered by the $33 rate (including tax) with the exception of 4 blocks near the King Edwards Station (currently subject to a higher rate). Staff are proposing to change the By-law in order to include these 4 blocks in the $33 area instead of charging residents different rates for their permits even though they are part of the same permit area. In addition to this, staff are currently working on a separate report with the intention of reviewing all of the residential permit prices in the City. This will be reported to Council later this year.

FINANCIAL IMPLICATIONS

The cost to install the proposed signing is estimated to be $90,000, which includes materials and labour. This cost is proposed to be funded by the 2006-2008 Streets Capital Budget for Cambie Street Restoration as the residential parking is an instrumental component of the station areas. In addition to the initial one-time installation costs, there will be costs associated with maintaining the signs as well as providing staff support to the residents who will be added to the City’s Residential Parking Programs. It is anticipated that incremental staff support and maintenance costs will be offset by revenue generated from permit sales. Revenues will fluctuate as a result of the staggered renewal dates of the permits. Permits for the King Edward Station (Cambie Village) area will be issued in December 2009 but, due to an adjustment to the annual renewal month, will not come up for annual renewal until February 2011. Marine Drive & 41st and 49th Avenue Station areas will be issued in the fall of 2009 and will expire in October 2010. It is anticipated that revenue from permit sales will be $38,000 in 2009, $22,000 in 2010 and $38,000 in future years. These revenue projections are based on a proposed permit price of $33.00. The expansion of metered areas means that there may be potential for meter revenue in the future. These increased revenues will be reported with the Budget in the year that the meters are installed.
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Old Posted May 30, 2009, 6:02 PM
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From Tafryn's pics - notice the glass wall cordoning off the platform area (I wonder how many people will run into it?). That's probably because the overpass will be a public area to allow people to pass from one side of the tracks to the other. I guess the turnstiles/gates will be right at that opening (but I wonder how the free on-airport rides will work?).

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yeah my friend pretended to walk into the glass when we got off the train and the woman was right there and he says to her i wonder how many people will run off the train into the glass and she said oh i hope not many

its definately an easy thing to do
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Old Posted May 30, 2009, 6:11 PM
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Oh boy. Maybe they should put polka dots on the glass so some dopes don't run off the train and in to it.

Or a "Caution: This is Glass" sign.
     
     
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Old Posted May 30, 2009, 6:30 PM
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Oh boy. Maybe they should put polka dots on the glass so some dopes don't run off the train and in to it.

Or a "Caution: This is Glass" sign.
That's a heck of a lot of space not to put anything. I'm sure there will be something.
     
     
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Old Posted May 30, 2009, 6:36 PM
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there are stickers on the one pane - there are three panes per section - each section has a sticker on it that says canada line
but it is in a bad location if you are on your blackberry not looking up - wham
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Or the visually impaired will easily run into it.
     
     
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Old Posted May 30, 2009, 7:51 PM
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Or the visually impaired will easily run into it.
Ironically a blind person would actually be the least susceptible as they are always having to pay attention to where they walk.

And I've never seen a guide dog walk in to a window.
     
     
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What's the point of it anyway?
     
     
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Old Posted May 30, 2009, 8:24 PM
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That's a good question. They aren't even suicide barriers like the ones at some Japanese subway stations, that have doors that open only when the doors on the train open. Of course nobody could climb over the 4.5 foot barrier...



Unless they think the people who will jump infront of a train are too dumb to notice glass, which would knock them out long enough to avoid the train.
     
     
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Old Posted May 30, 2009, 9:05 PM
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I would assume that the ones in japan pictured above are more so people dont accidentally slip onto the tracks or get pushed rather than to prevent suicide
     
     
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Old Posted May 30, 2009, 10:26 PM
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Not every visually impaired person has a seeing eye dog or cane. or is even blind, so please don't make fun of people you don't have any clue about.
     
     
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Old Posted May 30, 2009, 11:08 PM
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Not every visually impaired person has a seeing eye dog or cane. or is even blind, so please don't make fun of people you don't have any clue about.
I don't see how I was making fun of anyone. It is probable they are less likely to be texting on a blackberry, and paying more attention to their surroundings.

And those are known as suicide barriers in Japan. They were erected to prevent them at a time when it was happening more than once per day.

Though in a city with the population of Canada it's not surprising that more than a couple of people would do that per day, I suppose...

Strangely they are only in the Subway and not on the lines above ground (the ones people actually use) like the Yamanote line.
     
     
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Was at the airport yesterday (flying to Japan) and the stations are looking good!
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Was at the airport yesterday (flying to Japan) and the stations are looking good!
Jealous.
     
     
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Old Posted May 31, 2009, 4:15 AM
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Went by King Ed today and it's looking good. The final coat of paint has been put on, according to a note to other contractors by the entrance.

There's a blue "Way out" sticker on the back of the fare paid zone sign.
     
     
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Was at the airport yesterday (flying to Japan) and the stations are looking good!
So you're technically posting from Japan then? If so, i am incredulously jealous
     
     
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What's the point of it anyway?

to block the air from coming into the station when the cars are running?
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Old Posted May 31, 2009, 2:53 PM
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Currently posting in Takarazuka! After spending the day in Osaka and riding Hanku rail all day, it is insane that we are even debating LRT vs. skytrain for UBC or other extensions. grade separated is the only way to go. I love Japan so much (3rd time in)!

Today, standing in one intersection there was a subway below me, an elevated Hanku line to the left of me, another elevated Hanku line to the right of me, an elevated freeway above me and office/retail towers in front of me with fun signage and no graffiti! (Also the road lines were all well marked and not faded).

It is so nice being in a society that puts functionality first and does not cave in to every special interest group. Also the people here are not afraid of living in a city. And yes all of the signage and lights really do create a fun vibrant atmosphere, and it feels so much safer at night when the streets are actually bright.

And all the towers have red beacons on top of them (and they are shorter than many of the towers in Vancouver and no where near an airport). So i really do not know why we do not have the same standard in Vancouver. The Shangri-La really is lack luster at night (and there are plenty of condos that do have lights on top even in Vancouver so dont use that excuse).

Sorry, sorry, i should not rant, haha.

We should be happy that Vancouver has at least one new grade separated line about to open. Just to bad all of us tax payers are no going to have to pay for these possible lawsuits. I still stand by my point that if these people are given money for their losses during construction then they have to give back any excess profit they make once the line is open, no more having it both ways. We really should be looking at Japan for transportation guidance, not the USA.

(PS there are almost no street grade trains in Japan, the only one I have been on was in Kyoto, and it had 100% ROW)

I LOVE JAPAN

But Vancouver will always be my #1.
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Japans infrastructure is amazing. In Japan, roads go THROUGH you, not around you if you're in the way



The thing that amazed me my first time in Tokyo, on the bus, was that you were always at about the 5th or 6th level of a building, and under you there was a ground level road network, and above you was more roads.

Like in that picture, we have... expressway, railway, ground level roads.
     
     
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I'm not exactly sure if I want exactly that going into Vancouver... But anyways:


From Wikipedia

I think that's the coolest thing ever. These are stickers on the platform that indicate where the door stops. The red one is for the express trains which are longer, where as the blue sticker is for local trains? I wish we could have something like this XD Red for MKI, Blue for MKII? They should at least have these for the C-Line.
     
     
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