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Old Posted May 26, 2009, 4:53 PM
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and for those that think our storefront retail is expensive:

"Colliers International reported that the average retail rent on Manhattan’s Fifth Avenue decreased by 15% to US$1,400 a square foot in the first quarter of 2009 from US$1,650 a square foot in the first quarter of 2008. The average retail rent on Manhattan’s Madison Avenue declined by 32% to US$750 a square foot during the same period. The average retail rent on the Avenue des Champs-Elysées in Paris decreased by 41% to US$859 per square foot during the same period."

now i'm certainly not comparing jasper or whyte ave. or 124th street to 5th avenue in manhattan (at least not yet ), i'm just pointing out that in a lot of areas there is still plenty of "growth potential" here.
     
     
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re 118th ave..Its certainly noticeably. And for the better.
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The state of 118 Avenue compared to 2003 (when I first moved into the area) is like night and day. It's still a little sketchy, but it used to be REALLY sketchy.

I hope the momentum keeps going and it continues to improve, because that can potentially be a really nice area.
     
     
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Wow! Great news for Alberta Avenue! I don't visit the area very often, but maybe now I'll have a reason .

I remember seeing the Taco Del Mar under construction, and I thought, while it isn't the best thing, it is a (good) sign of revitalization. The area also definitely has some beautiful old homes and I've seen many families move into the area, as well as retired couples. The area has so much potential.

And another farmers' market? That's great, Edmonton really needs another year round one! Maybe the Old Strath (cause it's yr round) and City mkt (cause it's open air) will get some competition. This sounds like one of those small neighbourhood revitalizations that will go a long way.

It may sound like a stupid question, but is crime really a problem in the neighbourhood (for those that live there), I'm sure if it is, it's gone down steadily.
     
     
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Asside for some crude spraypainting down to my garage door a few years ago I haven't had any problems with crime. Not to say it doesn't exist.

THe biggest problem is the perception of the area. People just offhandedly say "well that's a high crime area" or "it's not safe". The question is: in relation to what ? "trendy" areas like Strathcona probably grapple with more petty crimes than we do, and other areas probably have more criminal activity.

A lot of poeple say that they'd move there if it wasn't for the crime. Just like people say they'd move downtown if there was more development. Both cases are circular prophecies. People always want to sit back and let other people do the legwork and then reap the rewards of other peoples' hard work. That's why I am so happy with the progress in my 'hood.... I helped do that.
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I've lived in the following areas of the city:
-Mill Woods
-Bonnie Doon
-West End (Callingwood)
-Westmount

I currently live in the Alberta Avenue area and haven't encountered any more problems there than anywhere else. I had a car stolen from in front of my house, but they caught the guy and he was from Barrhead and likely followed me home just to take the car. And like 240 said, I definitely feel like *I* have had a role in improving the area. A number of years ago I called in an anonymous complaint to Capital Health's Public Health inspectors about slum landlord on my block, and that sketchy house is condemned. I have had to call the police a couple of times becuase of dodgy people squatting in yards of abandoned homes, etc. My street has a couple of new houses going up on lots that previously had condemned houses.

There also used to be prostitutes at one corner all the time near my place until the neighbor and I decided to report the license plates of every car that stopped there. Now there is rarely anyone hanging out there.

All it takes is just a few people to care about where they live and make it unacceptable for the "undesirables", and things change fairly quickly. Just in the last 3 years I see more little kids playing outside, more people planting flowers, and more home improvements than back in 2003.

The "scariest" thing where I live now are the people pushing shopping carts on their way between Boyle Street and 118 Ave. Even that is starting to decrease.
     
     
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Interesting. I guess, like other areas of the city, it really is just a big perception problem. That's good to hear the area is really cleaning up 118th Avenue has great potential to become a great urban strip.

Oh to add to my comment on the Farmers' market, I think it's great, but the hours could be better. Most people are working or coming home and then having dinner in that time. If it was like 4-9 then that would be better IMO.
     
     
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Pretty much all of the "trouble" spots on my block are gone, but still the perception of Alberta Avenue being a bad neighborhood remains and is a bit off.

In the last couple of weeks there were swarmings/muggings in Old Strathcona, a shooting in the West End, and another person shot by police on 107 Ave. Yet people trash talk the quiet neighborhood where I live...
     
     
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^I remember months ago actually the media (our biggest problem wit perception imo) there was a kid who died around 118 Avenue or just lived in the area, and they said (cause the neighbourhood) he lived a "high risk life."
     
     
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I think the media has a role to play as far as communicating the changes to 118th... most people wouldnt know. Also, real estate pricing needs to start going up there too ..

Peoples perceptions will change.
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^I remember months ago actually the media (our biggest problem wit perception imo) there was a kid who died around 118 Avenue or just lived in the area, and they said (cause the neighbourhood) he lived a "high risk life."
not sure if the media is our biggest problem but i did shake my head yesterday when the sun reported the mitsubishi dealership north of yellowhead trail on 97th street as a "downtown car dealership"...
     
     
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Also, real estate pricing needs to start going up there too ..
I dunno... $250k seems to be about the average house price in there right now. One thing that has come up over & over is that we are not trying to gentrify the neighborhood. We don't necessarily want to be another Strathcona (in fact there are very good reasons why I didn't buy a house in Strathcona Vs. Alberta Ave, and price was only one of them)

The artist & ethnic angle has worked really well for the neighborhood so far. I don't see higher real estate prices as crucial to the ongoing revitalization.
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^I don't think we need another Strathcona. Not that the area isn't great, because it's something to be proud of, but we need new different types of "urban neighbourhoods". 124th street is like a designer/boutique district. Something different from Whyte Avenue, which seems to be I don't know a clash of many things. Artsy, yuppie, conservative, liberal, etc. I guess our premiere urban district - like Beltline in Calgary or NW 23rd in Portland.

118 Avenue should be something of even a different sort. Less mainstream than Whyte Ave though. Maybe sort of bohemian, artsy, antiquey?

And neighbourhoods like the Quarters, 97 st, Fort rd, 99st, SPR, 105ave/northedge, East Whyte/Ritchie, Highlands, glenora, garneau, jasper, etc. should turn into yet another different area.
     
     
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I think the media has a role to play as far as communicating the changes to 118th... most people wouldnt know. Also, real estate pricing needs to start going up there too ..

Peoples perceptions will change.
The media has actually done very well in this regard, I think. I have seen numerous positive articles about this neighborhood over the last year or so, far more than I have any negative ones.

The same unfortunately couldn't be said for downtown, which seems to have a 2:1 ratio of bad stories to positive ones, and that's not including misappropriated ones such as Ken's example.
     
     
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It really adds to the view of the U from the north side of the river!
     
     
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^ Yeah that is going to be a nice facility.

We bid a portion of the mechanical for the ECN last week. Fingers crossed....
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I quite like CCIS as well.... cant wait to take a tour.
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Land development bill 'scary'

Critics warn new act would give province unprecedented power

BY DARCY HENTON, THE EDMONTON JOURNALMAY 27, 2009


Critics say a landmark bill aimed at creating more orderly development in the province gives the Conservative government unchecked power over land use issues.

They say Bill 36 -- the Alberta Land Stewardship Act -- gives the government unprecedented powers to extinguish land and mineral rights without compensation while specifically prohibiting court appeals.

"It's quite a scary bill," said Laurie Danielson, executive director of an Edmonton-area industrial group called the Northeast Capital Industrial Association.

"I have never seen a bill anywhere in the country that gives a government as much authority. This bill allows the government to decide whether you exist. It can wipe you out in a heartbeat."

Gavin Fitch, who specializes in energy and environment law, is alarmed the bill gives cabinet "complete and unfettered discretion" to plan development.

While the bill calls for creation of regional advisory committees to oversee development, there's no requirement for cabinet to establish the committees or to follow their advice, he said.

Fitch said prohibiting appeals to the court "is just wrong."

Sustainable Resource Development minister Ted Morton concedes the bill, which is being debated in the legislature today, gives cabinet "a lot of administrative discretion."

"There is no off-the shelf blueprint from any other jurisdiction that has done this before, so we need that kind of flexibility," he said. "We don't want environmental and land use policy getting run through litigation in the courts. We want political accountability -- not judge-made law."

Morton said appeals will be allowed, if they were already permitted under previous legislation.

The Environmental Law Centre has called the bill "a positive step," but said it requires critical amendments to deal with overly broad discretion and limited rights to appeal.

Centre director Cindy Chiasson said she is not optimistic the government will introduce an amendment to open the process up to judicial review, but that's what's missing.

Liberal critic Kent Hehr said the process has turned into a "power grab by cabinet."

Although the bill establishes a stewardship commissioner to investigate complaints and apply to the courts to review specific matters, critics say its unlikely a commissioner employed by the government will take the government to court.

"The original land-use framework document emphasized the values of accountability, shared responsibility and transparency, but those values seem to have gone missing from the final product," said NDP MLA Rachel Notley.

"If government wants Albertans to trust what they are doing, the minister needs to understand that changes of this magnitude require uncommon levels of respect for democratic accountability and transparency."

She called on Morton to make the commissioner "an officer of the legislature" or to send the bill to an all-party committee for review, but he rejected the suggestions.

Alberta Chamber of Resources president Tim Ryan said the association of industry giants he represents has expressed concerns to government and hopes it was listening.

"If, in the end, there's a decision we can't accept, I guess we'll see them at the election polls," he said.

Dave Yager, CEO of HSE Integrated Services, said the bill appears to be a further erosion of the rights to access resources that oil and gas companies buy from the Crown.

"Everybody I show it to in the industry just turns white," he said.

"For someone who depends on the oil industry, this is not a positive signal."

The Canadian Association of Petroleum Producers and the Alberta Forest Products Association expressed concerns about the bill, but hope to have input into the regulations that will drive the legislation.

The Alberta Urban Municipalities Association and Alberta Association of Municipal Districts and Counties also had issues with the bill, but seemed resigned to accept it.

Rancher Norm Ward said beef producers are concerned the bill could curtail their use of land to graze cattle if it's required for ecological or recreational uses.

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