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Old Posted May 20, 2009, 3:13 PM
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Interesting, I was wondering where AKA was. I must say I enjoyed that weird and random mural, but I wish the gallery had a sign! (Maybe I didn't see it).

To the other reply: I didn't show some of the other recently failed shops on the street: the gas station on Avenue A, the bingo hall/pawn shop across from the Barry, the other huge bingo hall on Ave. H that is now a church. There is a *lot* of vacancy on that street right now, maybe you are right that it is part of a sea change, although some of those store fronts should be flat out torn down rather than re-occupied.
Agreed. Hopefully some of them will be . Most of the Bingo halls seemed to be killed off by the smoking ban. I believe both Bingo halls you mentioned were actually one in the same; the Lucky Horseshoe downsized and rented the Adilman building before shutting down (I think they're caput now anyways?).
     
     
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Old Posted May 21, 2009, 3:40 PM
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Contained student housing
By Cindy Petterson, The Star Phoenix May 21, 2009

RE: Affordable Housing for Students (SP, May 13).

Congratulations to Bryan McCrea and his partners for their made in Saskatchewan idea of re-using shipping containers and converting them to affordable housing units, and to the W. Brett Wilson Centre for Entrepreneurial Excellence at the Edwards School of Business at the University of Saskatchewan.

The Saskatchewan government and the university should now support this wonderful idea for U of- students. The U of- is certainly sitting on a vast amount of land that could be used to help solve the crisis in student housing that now exists.

The inland terminal in Wilkie now sells space for farmers wanting to store grain for up to 10 years. The terminal then re-buys the storage space back at the original price. If this concept was used for student housing, it would mean the parents pay initially for the container/house conversion. The university could supply the land with a contract stating that it would buy back the container/house after the student graduated at the original price. The university would then be free to resell the units over and over again. This would provide housing at a fixed cost for parents with little up-front cost for the university.

This idea would get our students out of substandard and extremely expensive housing.

This would seem to be a no-brainer! Let's see if the university and government promptly bring these ideas to reality.

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This is a very innovative solution, but, I have little faith in our University's administration, or Provincial government pursuing this proposal. The profit potential or cost recovery s probably quite limited, slower as compared to the traditional methods of providing student housing.
     
     
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Old Posted May 21, 2009, 4:48 PM
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Cool

Here's a website for the largest container "city" in the world, the Student Housing Project in Keetwonen, Amsterdam:

http://www.tempohousing.com/projects/keetwonen.html


Looks pretty interesting!
     
     
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Old Posted May 21, 2009, 7:11 PM
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Here's a website for the largest container "city" in the world, the Student Housing Project in Keetwonen, Amsterdam:

http://www.tempohousing.com/projects/keetwonen.html


Looks pretty interesting!
Wow, to develop the container-housing concept at such a large scale is quite ambitious, and very admirable.

I wonder if Meridian would team up with the U of S student group who proposed the idea, or perhaps pursue such a development on their own when drawing up the plans for new student housing. Meridian is one of, if not the most progressive residential developer in Saskatoon. I suppose such an idea is not beyond the realm of possibility.
     
     
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Old Posted May 21, 2009, 8:40 PM
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tonight is the premiers dinner in regina , he always mentions things about the city last years he talked about new head offices moving , so far nothing
     
     
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Old Posted May 22, 2009, 12:48 AM
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tonight is the premiers dinner in regina , he always mentions things about the city last years he talked about new head offices moving , so far nothing
sorry wrong city page
     
     
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Old Posted May 22, 2009, 1:21 PM
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Tower in trouble

Tower plan in jeopardy
Downtown Lighthouse project 'in a holding pattern': developer


By David Hutton, The StarPhoenix
May 22, 2009 7:18 AM


Saskatchewan's tallest building can't get off the ground.

The assisted-living component of the proposed 95-metre tall complex in the police station parking lot -- which was to break ground this summer -- is at least $10-million over budget, putting the project at that location in jeopardy.

"We're in a holding pattern," said Tony Argento, CEO of Calgary developer Stoneset Equities, which manages the project.

The proposed $80-million, 28-storey tower had Lighthouse Supported Living Inc. managing 120 units on the first six floors for people with long-term disabilities or low incomes and Stoneset developing market-rate condominium units on the 22 storeys above.

The development of the assisted living phase of the building is now estimated to cost at least $25 million -- $10 million more than originally anticipated -- with no contingency plan for further budget overruns, said Social Services Minister Donna Harpauer.

"We need to step back," Harpauer said in an interview. "In order to go that far over budget we would need to go back through the process. I believe it would have to go back to tender. We couldn't just automatically agree to that large of an increase.

"I think we're going to have to revisit . . . and work with Lighthouse to look at (different locations) or go back to tender to see if there is another builder."

The $10-million figure came as a surprise to the provincial government, which has committed $11.5 million to the project and would likely have to foot the bill for the remainder, Harpauer said. The city has committed $1.5 million to the affordable housing portion of the project.

Mayor Don Atchison said the "real, hard numbers" haven't been studied closely enough yet. The city is still anticipating the project will go ahead, he said.

"The city is ready at its end," he said. "We'll have to wait and see exactly what comes from this. . . . This hasn't been moving along at any great pace already. With the economic conditions we've had financially throughout the world, it's just going to take maybe a little longer, I don't know. It's up to the province and the Lighthouse people to deal with their issue first.

"If the other parties have a deal, great. If they don't, well, I guess we'll have to go back to the drawing board."

Due to the high cost, the Social Services Ministry will spend the next two months investigating less-costly alternatives for building an assisted-living project before making a decision whether to pull out of the Stoneset development.

"Obviously, this delays (the project)," Harpauer said. "We have to look at options that are more economical than this proposal. The cost causes one to hesitate. It is very high compared to other (affordable housing projects) we're involved in."

Stoneset Equities has already invested $300,000 in developing concept plans but it's unclear if it would continue the tower in the proposed location without Lighthouse on board, Argento said.

"Without knowing what's going to happen below us we can't move forward," he said.

"If the Lighthouse doesn't buy in, the project is completely different. We would have to redesign the whole thing. . . . There's no point in finding financing for something that might change."

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Old Posted May 22, 2009, 2:29 PM
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Here we go again. We are promised something bold, and in the end are delivered mediocrity. God, why does every project here take the same pattern? Sometimes its government (as in Station 20, the college Drive overpass) and sometimes developers (virtually every privately developed building in the city), but no one (with a few exceptions like Meridian and the U of S) seems able to follow through on their promises. I only hope that River Landing doesn't end up looking like the Remai proposal in the end. <insert black cloud here>
     
     
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Old Posted May 22, 2009, 3:45 PM
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What I found interesting in this article was the last comment by the developer: "There's no point in finding financing for something that might change"

So, does that mean the developer never did pursue securing funding for this project? With a proposed start date of construction this summer, you would think that funding would have been in place by now. This leads me to believe this project always was on shaky ground. Too bad...at least on paper, it was going to be one of the more innovative buildings in Saskatoon. I know 'Don the Mayor' is still optimistic, but I can't say I share his optimism.
     
     
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Old Posted May 22, 2009, 3:58 PM
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I gotta hand it to the developers here though, they're very good at putting pretty signs up saying something is going to be built there.
     
     
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Old Posted May 22, 2009, 4:55 PM
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Of course, neither Stoneset or the provincial government provide a reason for the $10 million budget increase. I suspect it is related to financing, something tells me the government can provide more favorable terms (more money with no strings attached...perhaps that was the plan from the get-go) than any private lender could for Stoneset. Another possibility could be related to the provincial government not wanting to be involved in what may appear to be direct subsidization of market housing (a strange unlikely possibility considering some of the governments past, present and future public-private partnerships).

What an unfortunate turn of events. On the brights side, the police will continue to enjoy a ground level parking lot for their police cruisers until the new police HQ is built /sarcasm

Of serious consideration, perhaps the library could use the parking lot for a new or expanded library if another developer fails to express interest...or turn it into green space (make it a shovel ready project?).

I said it before and I'll say it again, you have to be positive in this town

Of off-topic interest, I'm heading up north this weekend to do some fishing/tenting/biking around Narrow Hills Provincial Park, Flin Flon and the Canadian Shield (first time experience, and I hope to grab some decent photos to share with all of you).

Have a safe and enjoyable weekend

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Old Posted May 22, 2009, 7:12 PM
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It's beautiful up there (if you ignore the tailings piles ). Have fun.
     
     
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Old Posted May 22, 2009, 8:22 PM
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RE: Lighthouse

It would be nice to see this project go ahead, but I don't think it will happen given the recent news. The city is obviously eager to see it developed because of their goal to get more people living downtown. I think the developer is getting cold feet because of the current glut of condo's being built right now. Just take a look around stonebridge, univeristy heights, hampton village and the willows, you will see plenty of 3 story condo complexes going up. If you add them all together there would probably be enough condo space for 2 or 3 projects of the same magnitude. The government and the city can only contribute so much in the name of housing development, and I think Stoneset is a little skeptical of the current market. The lighthouse is more dependant on selling market condo's than it is on government financing so the 8 mil short schpeel doesn't fly with me.

As for River Landing, I'll be glad to see those cranes go up this summer, maybe they could be convinced to take on another project as well (aka. Lighthouse).

As for 275 Second, I wish they would have started construction this year after tearing down the buildings. Why rush to tear em down if your just going to let Impark take over for a year?

As for Remai, I wonder if they plan on going ahead with their proposal that was posted sometime last year? We all agreed it looked terrible, maybe they went back to the drawing board and they're gonna actually propose something decent.
     
     
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I believe there is a significant municipal tax saving to be had by tearing down the buildings.
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Signs and work

With all the signs going up and no work being done, it is refreshing to see the activity in Blairmore. Walmart and now there is work going on on the new hotel closer to the schools and pool. If the new Walmart is anything like the Walmart Superstore just opened in Surrey B.C. in a Smart Centres developement it will be a get addition to Saskatoon. This one doesn't look like your usual Walmart.
     
     
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I believe there is a significant municipal tax saving to be had by tearing down the buildings.
Eh Good point, but we are talking $5,000 - $10,000 max.
     
     
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Old Posted May 22, 2009, 8:38 PM
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With all the signs going up and no work being done, it is refreshing to see the activity in Blairmore. Walmart and now there is work going on on the new hotel closer to the schools and pool. If the new Walmart is anything like the Walmart Superstore just opened in Surrey B.C. in a Smart Centres developement it will be a get addition to Saskatoon. This one doesn't look like your usual Walmart.
Meh to Wal-mart.

I could use a grocery store where I live.
     
     
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Old Posted May 22, 2009, 9:23 PM
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RE: Lighthouse project

More on the Stoneset/Lighthouse tower:
http://www.newstalk650.com/story/20090522/16760
     
     
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River Landing Village

Ground breaking waits on dignitaries

     
     
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Old Posted May 23, 2009, 12:08 AM
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So to clarify...

River Landing is delaying a 100+ million development's construction schedule because Mayor Atch can't beach himself on the river bank at a certain hour???

Something is up.
     
     
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