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Old Posted May 11, 2009, 5:51 PM
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Where'd everybody go? It's been a ghost town of new information and discussion around here lately.
     
     
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Old Posted May 11, 2009, 6:05 PM
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Old Posted May 11, 2009, 10:56 PM
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It's great to hear the airport is going to be expanding sooner then scheduled. I would really liek to see them rip out every silk plant present. They really are tacky and distasteful. Maybe as well we will get a full 2 luggage carousels rather then 1.5.

I read today the new bus barns are most likely going to be approved. This is great news, and hopefully with this the revitilization of the neighbourhood they are currently in (don't know the name) will continue and possibly accelerate in pace.

Another side note, I take bus #80 Arbour Creek to and from work everyday and it is pretty much packed every time I'm on it. Maybe Saskatoon is starting to see a larger increase in transit riders. This would be great news!
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I really think our airport is great. It's a nice short walk from the laggage check in to the terminal. It's so nice not having to run from one terminal to the next. I fly regularly, and really appreciate our airport. Larger airports look cool, but the small are way more convenient.

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It's great to hear the airport is going to be expanding sooner then scheduled. I would really liek to see them rip out every silk plant present. They really are tacky and distasteful. Maybe as well we will get a full 2 luggage carousels rather then 1.5.

I read today the new bus barns are most likely going to be approved. This is great news, and hopefully with this the revitilization of the neighbourhood they are currently in (don't know the name) will continue and possibly accelerate in pace.

Another side note, I take bus #80 Arbour Creek to and from work everyday and it is pretty much packed every time I'm on it. Maybe Saskatoon is starting to see a larger increase in transit riders. This would be great news!
     
     
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Old Posted May 12, 2009, 1:34 AM
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I really think our airport is great. It's a nice short walk from the laggage check in to the terminal. It's so nice not having to run from one terminal to the next. I fly regularly, and really appreciate our airport. Larger airports look cool, but the small are way more convenient.
Sorry I sent the wrong message, I also really like not having to switch terminals, it is a pain in the a**, but being small and only one wing I really think we have the capability to present a much more architecturally pleasing and inspiriting structure then awkward above security displays and silk plants. Perhaps a water feature like in Vancouver or Calgary or more natural elements to the prairies such as modern grass displays. This really helps paint the identity for the city and the airport and makes it much more memorable for travellers.
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/\ so I'm guessing you're probably not a fan of the skyline picture featuring the River Roar boat.
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Old Posted May 12, 2009, 7:17 PM
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Ya you don't definately don't get the big city metropolis feel when you step off a plane into our Airport. I don't know if this fact or not but it seemed even Kelowna's airport was bigger when I was there last year.

I think they need an entirely new wing, new luggage caroseuls, more security stations. Get some a decent restaurant or two in there. Ya get rid of those god awful fake plants and how long ago the river roar stop coming here?

Although at the rate of construction on new projects around here I think everyone will have their own personal flying cars by then and we won't need planes anymore
     
     
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Old Posted May 12, 2009, 9:21 PM
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I read today the new bus barns are most likely going to be approved. This is great news, and hopefully with this the revitilization of the neighbourhood they are currently in (don't know the name) will continue and possibly accelerate in pace.

Another side note, I take bus #80 Arbour Creek to and from work everyday and it is pretty much packed every time I'm on it. Maybe Saskatoon is starting to see a larger increase in transit riders. This would be great news!
I would just like to clarify this, because the SP story was very confusing, that the approval by council was for funding for a new Access Transit facility, not a regular transit facility. The new 150-bus garage as requested by Saskatoon Transit is only in the preliminary design phase, and has not been approved for construction (only budgeted in the 3-5 yr timeframe). However, the new Access Transit facility will have room for 30 regular transit buses, which will eliminate the need for overnight winter idling at the old bus garage, but the garage will still be in service. Have I got this right?

Most routes in the southeast, especially the DART routes, are over-capacity, particularly during the afternoon peaks. I'm sure transit will approach council for a reserve budget ask for increased service hours for September. At least that's what I would do, I've been passed-up by the 50/60 a number of times.
     
     
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Old Posted May 13, 2009, 4:25 AM
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I would just like to clarify this, because the SP story was very confusing, that the approval by council was for funding for a new Access Transit facility, not a regular transit facility. The new 150-bus garage as requested by Saskatoon Transit is only in the preliminary design phase, and has not been approved for construction (only budgeted in the 3-5 yr timeframe). However, the new Access Transit facility will have room for 30 regular transit buses, which will eliminate the need for overnight winter idling at the old bus garage, but the garage will still be in service. Have I got this right?

Most routes in the southeast, especially the DART routes, are over-capacity, particularly during the afternoon peaks. I'm sure transit will approach council for a reserve budget ask for increased service hours for September. At least that's what I would do, I've been passed-up by the 50/60 a number of times.
Thanks for clarifying madsad. Like I said I take the 80 and during peak hours during the university months they would send two 80's and a special to service the east end.
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On a completley different note, I'm taking on a summer project called "Our Saskatoon". The name may change, but what it is essentially is suggestions from road aesthetic improvements to rezoning and architectural guidelines largely based on a survey I will compile and send out and then send to council. I feel for a city to really be positively developed there needs to be a very large involvement from the citizens of the city. By making things direct by asking questions such as, "would you prefer gravel surface lots downtown or one or two multi story parkades" I will be able to really present the way people think about development to council. So why I'm saying this is because I would like some input from everyone as to what issues I should address no matter how large or small. Get creative and really just pour out your vision for how you want the city to develop.
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Old Posted May 13, 2009, 4:43 PM
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A Statistically Tolerant Saskatoon
Wednesday, 13 May 2009

In the big cities of Canada, where hate turns to crime, the worst places to live are Calgary , Edmonton, Hamilton, Ottawa, and Toronto.

In smaller communities, the worst five hate crime centres are Saint John, london, Kingston, Abbotsford and Regina.

In Saint John, the rate is 6.2 hate crimes per 100 thousand population.

Compare that to Saskatoon's considerably more tolerant numbers of 0.5 per 100 thousand.

Stats Canada says race or ethnicity accounted for 64% of all hate crimes reported in 2007.

Religion was the motivation for 24% and sexual orientation just 10%.

Among racially motivated hate crimes, Blacks were targeted most often.

http://www.saskatoonhomepage.ca/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=18308&Itemid=281
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Eat your heart out McLeans, not construction related but safety in a city does affect wether or not a company is willing to open an office up within a city. Hopefully this makes some pretty big news to help save our "dangerous" rep.
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Old Posted May 13, 2009, 9:21 PM
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I'd be curious to know how they compile such a statistic and what it really means. For example, you could get a low score by being a truly tolerant city and thereby having a low rate of racially motivated crime. You could also get a low score by having a low level of racial diversity (i.e. if there are few people who are in the visible minority, there will be fewer crimes directed at them. Finally, you could also get a low score because of lack of awareness (which might negatively correlate with tolerance) for example if the police force is not aware of racial issues, they are not even likely to consider that a crime has a racial element and will not record the crime as such. Anyway, it is interesting.
     
     
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Old Posted May 14, 2009, 1:38 AM
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Saskatoon Water Park

http://whitewatergreenpower.com/

New site for those interested in checking out and supporting the movement for a water park and energy site on the river.
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i am really hoping that the whitewater park will come to a reality, i truely believe it would attract alot of people to kayaking all around saskatchewan(including myself) i also hope it gets built for the energy site. I hope one day that saskatoon will become one of the most energy efficient cities in north america. With the hydro-electric plant and possibly wind turbines in the near future along diefenbaker park it may be become a reality.
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Energy efficient in what sense, do you mean the city powered with the most green electricity. If so take a look at Winnipeg, all of it comes from Hydro.

If you mean least amount of KWH per person well that would have nothing to do with a hydro damn and more to do with energy efficient, lighting, and heating and all those wonderful improvementsetc etc. That record would probably have to go to some 3rd world city with limited amounts of vehicles and a lack of power.

Sorry for bursting your bubble, I just think you need a more clearly defined goal. However I think your implied intended target is very positive, and I too hope Canadian cities in general do more to be more efficient and to waste less resources.
     
     
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This doesn't have anything to do with construction, but isn't this the worst May ever? Why is it hovering around 0 and snowing? There aren't even any leaves on the trees yet! This is just wrong.
     
     
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This doesn't have anything to do with construction, but isn't this the worst May ever? Why is it hovering around 0 and snowing? There aren't even any leaves on the trees yet! This is just wrong.
I don't know if it's the worst ever, but it certainly seems that way after the long, cold winter we had this year!
     
     
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There is a link on the website I attached previously to email your local MP's and show your support for the Water Park / Energy Site.

I highly suggest emailing them your ideas / support on a regular basis.
There are so many good ideas floating around this site, they need to be voiced and heard and KGC087 good on you for that 'Our Saskatoon' initiative.
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A former Adelaide-Haultain resident highlights Saskatoon's challenges...

This city deserves more Steven Lewis'

Condo battle about city's future
By Steven Lewis, Special to The Star PhoenixMay 15, 2009

Following is the personal viewpoint of the writer, a Saskatoon resident and president of Access Consulting Ltd.

After listening to some heated arguments against the project, city council approved a zoning change that allows 120 condo units to be built on a forlorn piece of underused land bounded by Haultain Avenue and Ruth Street.

Coun. Bob Pringle stood loud and proud for the NIMBY legions who overwhelmed proponents of the project at the April 20 meeting of city council. He went so far as to suggest that only residents of the immediate area were entitled to an opinion.

I suppose by that criterion I no longer count; while I lived at Munroe Avenue and Ruth Street for 28 years, my wife and I moved to Nutana last October. I watched the debate with a growing sense of irony. What the opponents of the project wished to preserve, we wished to leave behind.

Adelaide-Churchill has a density of 3.5 units per acre. In some countries this would be considered semi-rural. The lifeless streets are needlessly wide and are, despite the noble efforts of homeowners, the dominant aesthetic feature.

There is little pedestrian traffic, and for good reason. Woody Allen observed that the problem with the countryside is that there's no place to go for a walk. He meant, of course, that a good walk requires human and visual stimulation, variety, and the prospect of a spontaneous experience.

Opponents of the project want neither density nor the prospect of commercial enterprises intruding on their solitude. The essence of an interesting urban landscape is mixed use on a human scale. Big box retail outlets are as ruthlessly efficient as they are sterile; they are built for cars, not people. Monochrome subdivisions are their residential counterpart. They are isolating by design: the private preserve of the big backyard; the firewall between the domestic and the commercial; houses set well back from the street.

The obvious response to this is that I'm entitled to my perspective and the locals are entitled to theirs. To each his own, and, as the area residents kept repeating, they like what they have, and all they want is its perpetual enjoyment. Fair enough; my question is whether, even on their own terms, they are overreacting and needlessly fearful.

No one is proposing to turn the neighbourhood into Hong Kong; the project would add perhaps 200 residents who are 55-plus. The traffic argument was almost surreal. Yes, Clarence Avenue has become much busier in the past year, but it is entirely due to thousands of people living the same dream that created Adelaide-Churchill half a century ago. The Law of Sprawl comes back to haunt: Today's pastoral sanctuary is tomorrow's drive-through corridor to Home Depot and Stonebridge.

How the presence of a couple of hundred older, mainly churchgoing adults would disturb the tranquillity of the neighbourhood taxes the imagination. The complex will have its own parking. Building up the site would turn a desolate landscape into something potentially pleasing; the risk of it being aesthetically worse is near zero. And there is no better deterrent to speeding drivers than density.

From a quality of life perspective, the opponents may have it exactly wrong. They should insist on 200 units, not 120. They should demand an intimate pub, a coffee house, a courtyard, a multi-purpose centre for community get-togethers. The development should create volunteer and paid work for teenagers and ecumenical services at the church. Set aside a unit or two for artists-in-residence.

This was not just a local skirmish in Adelaide-Churchill; it was about the future of the city, the viability of the low-density model typical of prairie cities without natural boundaries, and a meditation on civic democracy.

Saskatoon is not immune to global realities, and time and economics will have the last word on the sustainability of how we live, travel, and work. The good life comes in many packages. Happy children grow up on Saskatchewan farms and in Manhattan amid the concrete and the towers. No one in central Barcelona or downtown Vancouver lives in a single-family dwelling. By choice and necessity, public and private life are more integrated, the streets are abuzz, the cafes are full, and pedestrians still matter.

There can be no gentler introduction to densification than what's proposed for my old neighbourhood. The opposing passions seemed disproportionate to the stakes and the risks. If anything, the problem with the project is that it lacks ambition.

It is neither imaginative nor transformative, but on balance it is better than doing nothing or doing less. It will be pleasant and quiet; its imprint on the neighbourhood will be minimal.

The gentleman who feared for the loss of his sunsets may find compensation in a new friend or two. The people accustomed to looking across their back fences at nothing might come to appreciate a different view. My hope is that we are all at the beginning of a larger conversation about adding vitality to neighbourhoods, and how Saskatoon might become the little metropolis that could.

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Thank you Steven for an honest, realistic perspective on the successes and failures of urban environments, with contextual references to Saskatoon.

I especially connected with this last statement,
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My hope is that we are all at the beginning of a larger conversation about adding vitality to neighbourhoods, and how Saskatoon might become the little metropolis that could.
Indeed, a larger conservation has begun. Of course, we have many more challenges ahead (NIMBYS will come again, that is certain).

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A construction update...because its been awhile.

King George coming together


The King George, 2nd Avenue Lofts and downtown transit terminal make for a memorable, lively intersection (most days ).






2nd Avenue stroll


Discovery Plaza making an impact on the streetscape


Discovery Plaza


Discovery Plaza


3rd Avenue stroll


3rd Avenue beautification underway (burying power lines).


Capitol 4 to office space...


1st Avenue stroll


Another angle of the King George (23rd Street).


Academic Health Sciences


Academic Health Sciences


Academic Health Sciences


Academic Health Sciences


Academic Health Sciences


Place Riel Renovations/Additions


Place Riel Renovations/Additions


Place Riel Renovations/Additions


Place Riel Renovations/Additions


Vaccine Infectious Disease Organization


Vaccine Infectious Disease Organization


PotashCorp Park - Griffiths Stadium


McEwan Park student residences


McEwan Park student residences and a ghostly Luther Tower lurking behind.

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I'd like to shake Mr. Lewis' hand. Nice piece of work.

What's all that white stuff in the pictures. None of that up here in the central Yukon
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