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Old Posted Apr 30, 2009, 8:08 PM
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I'll second that! Right by McNally high school there are some great viewpoints and when the east end of Jasper starts getting developed, it'll be even fuller.

Plus there are some killer bike trails right around there, some steep hills!
There is a little better view if you go south of Forest Heights park into the pastoral centre grounds, stay along the top of bank. There is a clearing that looks directly down the north saskatchwan (as opposed to across the river).
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ps it took more than a weekend, that took a solid 6 weekends (but as you can see, the backyard was technically a ghetto
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ps it took more than a weekend, that took a solid 6 weekends (but as you can see, the backyard was technically a ghetto
Mine is not a lot better. But I have a buddy who did landscaping and patios all last summer, so I think his guidance and aid will help a bit. Also, our backyard is a bit smaller as it is a narrow townhouse. yard = 12 ft deep, 14 ft wide. He figures 1.5 days max, but we'll see.

I'll post pictures when (if) it happens. Just spent the morning getting quotes on flagstone and crushed limestone for a base.
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Old Posted Apr 30, 2009, 10:28 PM
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Couple of interesting permits:

Job No 86017958-001: To change the use from a bar & pub to a community recreation service.
10229 - 105 STREET NW
Plan NB1 Blk 4 Lots 146-148
MAVERICK BREWING CORPORATION

DOWNTOWN


Job No 86055410-001: To Operate a Sidewalk Cafe to an existing Restaurant (Dp76518131-001) from 100 seatas to 108 seat 7.68 of public space
10310 - 102 AVENUE NW
Plan 8622410 Blk 3 Lot A
SABOR DIVINO RESTAURANT AND LOUNGE

DOWNTOWN


Job No 85649525-002: To change the use of the Amenity Space to General Retail and Specialty Food Service (Main Floor) and to Professional, Financial and Office Support Service (Basement) and to construct exterior alterations to Main Floor (Tennant Doors) and interior alterations to Basement, Main and Second Floors (including the addition of 60.8m2 floor space) of an Office Tower.
10250 - 101 STREET NW
Plan 2137RS Blk 1 Lot F
BECK COMMERCIAL INC., TONY

DOWNTOWN
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Couple of interesting permits:

Job No 86017958-001: To change the use from a bar & pub to a community recreation service.
10229 - 105 STREET NW
Plan NB1 Blk 4 Lots 146-148
MAVERICK BREWING CORPORATION

DOWNTOWN
Don't tell me the YMCA is taking over that space? God I hope not...

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Job No 86055410-001: To Operate a Sidewalk Cafe to an existing Restaurant (Dp76518131-001) from 100 seatas to 108 seat 7.68 of public space
10310 - 102 AVENUE NW
Plan 8622410 Blk 3 Lot A
SABOR DIVINO RESTAURANT AND LOUNGE

DOWNTOWN
Yaaay!

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Job No 85649525-002: To change the use of the Amenity Space to General Retail and Specialty Food Service (Main Floor) and to Professional, Financial and Office Support Service (Basement) and to construct exterior alterations to Main Floor (Tennant Doors) and interior alterations to Basement, Main and Second Floors (including the addition of 60.8m2 floor space) of an Office Tower.
10250 - 101 STREET NW
Plan 2137RS Blk 1 Lot F
BECK COMMERCIAL INC., TONY

DOWNTOWN
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There is a little better view if you go south of Forest Heights park into the pastoral centre grounds, stay along the top of bank. There is a clearing that looks directly down the north saskatchwan (as opposed to across the river).
Never been along the top of the bank there - and as construction is in full swing on the seminary I think access is limited there. There are some scenic landings along the trails IIRC that offer some nice views.

Maybe we should have a river valley bike trail thread!
     
     
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Just an observation as I sit in traffic beside the Panache... I didn't realize they've installed a permanent WOOD FENCE on top of the building to hide the hvac

Haha railtown you are so, so depressing. I took a pic on my phone and will post it when I get home
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^agreed. very depressing.
     
     
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it looks like a suburban home's fence.
     
     
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I don't think that's to hide the HVAC.. I think that's a deck!
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My thoughts on some posts:

SABOR DIVINO RESTAURANT AND LOUNGE faces East - no sunshine for patio. Too bad. SW corner appears available for lease??

The old Maverick does sound like YMCA moving over. Too bad and what a waste of great space and brewery equipment. We need a few brew pubs right downtown - Rice Howard Way would be ideal - but that would mean dealing with Worthington...grrr.

Bylaw should demand the ugly railing be pulled down - how tacky. And as for as covering the mechanical - look what is on the Jube....East side is OK and West side looks soooooooo fricken ugly it makes you cry. I would like to pull the trigger on the Mechanical Consultant for not demanding the same architectural treatment both sides. Who was it anyway?

And I like SSP (though I do not post much except to shit disturb)...you can let your hair hang down here...

Finally I love my Edmonton.
     
     
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this is what windermere coulda been like:


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I would like to pull the trigger on the Mechanical Consultant for not demanding the same architectural treatment both sides. Who was it anyway?
Mechanical consultants don't spec architectural features.
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Put Jasper Avenue out of its misery
Downtown main street is nothing a good bulldozing can't fix


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Friday, May 01, 2009

Jasper Avenue is Whyte Avenue's ugly step-street.

Jasper Avenue is so homely it can't get a date with an intersection. It might be the worst looking main street in Canada.

Our main drag is gap-toothed and grimy, pockmarked and slovenly. It's army-green streetscape motif looks like it was designed by Soviets on 'shrooms.

Those hideous, bulbous, bird-pooped median features gotta go. While we're at it, let's dismantle the sidewalk transit features, with those grimy-green shelters that double as crystal-meth kiosks.

Black-patched sidewalks must be re-poured; curbs and cracks repaired. And can someone put a fresh coat of paint on a few buildings?

Admittedly, that's just window dressing -- lipstick on the proverbial pig. The core problems along Jasper Avenue won't be fixed with flower pots and paint. The core problem along Jasper Avenue is the zombie ambience.

Many nights it's like walking in a post-apocalyptic world where only banks, donair shops and Tim Hortons survived; where roads shuttle people as fast as possible to the safety of the land of the living suburbs.

You can walk entire blocks down Jasper Avenue without encountering anything to delight the eye or imagination. Banks and cash stores don't engage sidewalk strollers. Neither do shuttered buildings, nor canyon walls of concrete and glass.

Then there are the gaps in Jasper Avenue's grimace. We don't even acknowledge the "park" spaces along Jasper Avenue where buildings once existed. Apparently, Jasper Avenue is so ugly other buildings refuse to move in.

And where there are existing buildings, they're set back from the sidewalk as if they don't trust the humans.

Still other buildings eschew shops and restaurants for offices, employment agencies or medical services. Not exactly the stuff of window shopping.

Even worse are the false fronts on the blocks west of 109th Street, where stores and restaurants have fake doors on Jasper. You've got to go around back, to the parking lot side, to get in.

All in all, Jasper Avenue is a debacle. It isn't a main street. It is a mean street. It's time we called this dog a dog -- then shot the damned dog.

In the next two days, groups will meet to begin one of those city-hall visioning exercises for Jasper Avenue. All ideas will be thrown on the table -- including, I hope, bulldozers and dynamite.

Experts and then the public will get to put in their two cents' worth on how to make Jasper Avenue a main street again. I wish them well. I just warn them against thinking cobblestone and lamps will do the trick.

Jasper Avenue isn't like any other revitalization project this city has tackled before. The upgrading of Alberta Avenue at least started with blocks of occupied storefronts -- buildings of the proper scale and design to engage people on the sidewalk.

Jasper Avenue? Forget about it. We've screwed up our downtown so badly it will take a miracle to fix it. When Edmonton Centre, Eaton Centre, Manulife and Commerce Place were built downtown, the streets emptied of retail and restaurants. Downtown went inside and suburban, becoming a collection of malls.

Then old retail buildings and warehouses were knocked down. New buildings went up, but in a style that seemed to forget there was an outside, uh, outside.

If we're going to make headway now, tough architectural standards must be written for new buildings downtown, especially on Jasper Avenue. Ground-floor retail must be included with individual entrances to shops, cafes or restaurants. Maybe sidewalk space for patio tables?

Tax incentives or grants must be offered, as well, to existing building owners to carve out retail spaces on their main floors.

The Royal Bank on 101st Street with the Wok Box. We need more of it.

I realize mall owners want to trap us inside. But we've got to find ways to get them to open their stores to the sidewalk.

Commerce Place did it with a Tim Hortons. More, please.

The city must use traffic calming measures on Jasper Avenue, too. Maybe some bike lanes. More metered parking and trees. Reduce the feeling that you're walking next to a freeway. Pedestrians are people, too.

City council has talked for years -- decades -- about fixing up downtown. I'm tired of the lip service.

Jasper Avenue is our signature street. It speaks to our civic culture, values and priorities.

It is our public face to the world. Extreme makeover required.

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^well said Scott. Our main drag needs some serious help, let's hope that makeover is good.
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It is a problem I guess the lack of activity on Jasper, but over the past 2-3 yrs it has gotten much better. The streetscape could use a makeover, sure, but I think Scott went a little dramatic about it and made it seem worse than it actually is. But that's my opinion .
     
     
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this is what windermere coulda been like:


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really now?


this is what windermere is once you take the icing off

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Jasper Avenue in its current state is an embarrassment. 'Nuff said.
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^mind you so are Edmontonians use of central areas.
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