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TowerGuy37 · #**1301** Posted **Mar 10, 2009, 11:45 PM**

yeah not sure i get the whole white window frame thing either..kinda cheapens the whole look!

The same thing happened at 840 LSD also, those windows just ruined the overall aesthetic of the building!

the urban politician · #**1302** Posted **Mar 11, 2009, 2:21 AM**

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Originally Posted by VivaLFuego

Hey as long as we're griping, anyone else bummed about the very low unit density?

^ Considering what it replaced? Not at all.

Still plenty of units, plenty of well-paid individuals who will support local businesses and pay taxes.

VivaLFuego · #**1303** Posted **Mar 11, 2009, 2:43 AM**

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Originally Posted by the urban politician

^ Considering what it replaced? Not at all.

Still plenty of units, plenty of well-paid individuals who will support local businesses and pay taxes.

To clarify, there are 52 residential units.

Having another hotel is nice, I guess. OK, it is a step up from the 7-11 with surface parking that existed where the car court is; granted, too, the underground parking is very welcome as far as the streetscape is concerned, though I could deal without the curb cuts that have been carved into State Street (I think there are cuts to access both Elysian and 10ED, but I'd have to walk by again to check for sure).

BVictor1 · #**1304** Posted **Mar 11, 2009, 8:58 PM**

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Originally Posted by Nowhereman1280

Yeah, its a definite NoNo that the window frames on the tower don't match those on the base or the balconies...

It is odd that the windows on the base are black and the ones in the tower are white. Notice also how the frames for 10 E. Delaware are also white.

Nowhereman1280 · #**1305** Posted **Mar 11, 2009, 9:19 PM**

^^^ Ok, so you are saying that 10 E. is going to have Ass ugly windows as well? Haha, white frames look pathetic against tan walls...

BVictor1 · #**1306** Posted **Mar 12, 2009, 4:52 AM**

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Originally Posted by Nowhereman1280

^^^ Ok, so you are saying that 10 E. is going to have Ass ugly windows as well? Haha, white frames look pathetic against tan walls...

I'm just saying that 10 E. Delaware has white frames also, at least according to the photo on the previous page. That's all...

headcase · #**1307** Posted **Mar 12, 2009, 4:01 PM**

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Originally Posted by BVictor1

It is odd that the windows on the base are black and the ones in the tower are white. Notice also how the frames for 10 E. Delaware are also white.

I'm actually OK with the white tower window frames, to my eye they do a couple of things:

1) They distinguish between the low rise and tower portions. The low rise is more to the scale that this style would have been originally be designed for, and the black help anchors it to the ground, making it look heavier.

2) While I really don't like this building, it does have some vertical thrust to it, and that would have been ruined by placing, what amounts to, black crosses all over the facade.

I have alot of problems with this building, but the color differences between the windows mullions isn't one of them.

SSDD

PS -- Excuse the possibly poor English, I'm working on three hours sleep and the coffee isn't doing anything for me.

a chicago bearcat · #**1308** Posted **Mar 12, 2009, 6:11 PM**

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Originally Posted by headcase

I'm actually OK with the white tower window frames, to my eye they do a couple of things:

1) They distinguish between the low rise and tower portions. The low rise is more to the scale that this style would have been originally be designed for, and the black help anchors it to the ground, making it look heavier.

2) While I really don't like this building, it does have some vertical thrust to it, and that would have been ruined by placing, what amounts to, black crosses all over the facade.

I have alot of problems with this building, but the color differences between the windows mullions isn't one of them.

SSDD

PS -- Excuse the possibly poor English, I'm working on three hours sleep and the coffee isn't doing anything for me.

black crosses would not exist, windows are voids in the materiality of a structure, to place something bright like white frames actually clutters the composition more, by bisecting the many windows with white crosses.

white window frames are a creation of post war america, this is a throwback to prewar america. The white windows don't belong.

headcase · #**1309** Posted **Mar 12, 2009, 9:27 PM**

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Originally Posted by a chicago bearcat

black crosses would not exist, windows are voids in the materiality of a structure, to place something bright like white frames actually clutters the composition more, by bisecting the many windows with white crosses.

white window frames are a creation of post war america, this is a throwback to prewar america. The white windows don't belong.

Valid points .... especially about the voids ... like I said sleepy.

With that being said, I still don't mind the white ... maybe it is a trick to my eye and it doesn't make the voids as apparent? Whatever, no need to rationalize, it is still one of the few things I don't hate about the building.

And a "Throwback to prewar america"? really? I've never gotten that from this building, I always assumed Paris ... in either case, the 600+ feet of the tower doesn't belong either!

SSDD

george · #**1310** Posted **Mar 19, 2009, 3:18 AM**

Nowhereman1280 · #**1311** Posted **Mar 20, 2009, 2:30 AM**

^^^ As you can see in this photo and I just noticed today, the Yellow crane on this guy is coming down...

Dr. Taco · #**1312** Posted **Mar 22, 2009, 6:42 PM**

the roof is partially covered

Pandemonious · #**1313** Posted **Mar 22, 2009, 7:01 PM**

^Yeah, it is really visible coming in on the Kennedy.

george · #**1314** Posted **Mar 25, 2009, 6:33 PM**

SolarWind · #**1315** Posted **Mar 26, 2009, 5:12 AM**

March 25, 2009

spyguy · #**1316** Posted **Mar 27, 2009, 7:23 PM**

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Originally Posted by SolarWind

Not quite the same...

Dr. Taco · #**1317** Posted **Mar 27, 2009, 8:10 PM**

^ I feel like that is just the first layer of the roof...

trvlr70 · #**1318** Posted **Mar 27, 2009, 8:19 PM**

Where are the flying buttresses?

chicubs111 · #**1319** Posted **Mar 27, 2009, 9:32 PM**

jesus people...let the freakin tower finish before we start makin these comments

Nowhereman1280 · #**1320** Posted **Mar 27, 2009, 11:38 PM**

^^^ I dunno, if you look at it the top has clearly been signifigantly Value Engineered down to a much simpler shape and design. For example look at the movement of the top row of oval windows off of the peak and into the shaft...