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Old Posted Mar 4, 2009, 1:23 AM
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Calgary I guess is building a 'white water park' on our weir, but it is more to stop it from killing people who miss the multiple warning signs and circumvent the physical measures. http://www.harviepassage.ca/ Only $17 million.


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Calgary I guess is building a 'white water park' on our weir, but it is more to stop it from killing people who miss the multiple warning signs and circumvent the physical measures. http://www.harviepassage.ca/ Only $17 million.


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And we're trying to one-up you guys with some hydro

I drew in some red circles...oh, initial cost estimates were $15 million (not sure if that applies to all concepts).

Source - Toontown Whitewater club (link is dead though )....we have a small thread on this topic here.
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 4, 2009, 3:11 PM
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Retail site planned for city's northeast
Drug, grocery stores eyed as site anchors at University Heights


By Cassandra Kyle, The StarPhoenix
March 4, 2009 8:01 AM


A large parcel of land in Saskatoon's burgeoning northeast is slated to become a retail centre built to serve the 31,000 people now living within three kilometres of the site.

Pillar Properties Corp. has purchased 23 acres of serviced land on the corner of Attridge and McOrmond drives and is courting tenants for what will become University Heights Square.

Neil Evans, president and CEO of Pillar Properties, says it is a development the area has been waiting for.

"It's been long-awaited to have this type of development out there, and in this area we're going to work very hard to have a very nice development to complement what's already out there," he said.

"One of the potential tenants coined the site as a one-in-10-year opportunity, because as the rest of the area gets built out . . . there is no land put aside for commercial of this size."

University Heights Square will sit near five neighbourhoods that are established or under construction -- Arbor Creek, Erindale, Forest Grove, Silverspring and Willowgrove -- and Evergreen, which is slated for development to the north of Willowgrove

The company notes Evergreen will add significantly to the number of people in close proximity to the square.

Plans for the shopping centre hinge on which tenants take up space in the square and are therefore subject to change, but draft plans for the site include space for a grocery store, a drug store, a home and garden centre, several smaller retail spaces, three restaurants and a hotel.

Evans, who co-owns Pillar Properties with the company's vice-president of finance and CFO, Basil Waslen, said the company is working to secure its anchor tenants for the grocery, drug store and home and garden centre space before moving on to other parts of the development.

Although it's not a priority, Evans thinks a hotel would work well in the space.

"We think there's a demand out in that area," he said. "It's fairly close to the (SaskTel Sports Centre) soccer centre, for instance, and this past weekend the provincials were on there and teams were in from out of town and that hotel would have been full if it was there today."

Evans added bringing additional restaurants to the east side of the city is a smart business move.

"The demand out there is great. I believe when Boston Pizza (on Nelson Road) opened up it has been running at near capacity since the day it opened up and I think you see that all through the east side of Saskatoon -- on a Thursday, Friday, Saturday night it's very hard to get into a restaurant on the east side of Saskatoon," he said.

Keith Webb, associate vice-president of Colliers McClocklin Real Estate Corp., which is marketing the square, said unlike the Preston Crossing and Stonegate shopping centres, University Heights Square would not be subject to development controls by the City of Saskatoon.

That means the developers have the final word on how large the buildings are and what type of companies move in.

One of the only types of properties not zoned for the square, Webb said, are movie theatres.

"It's interesting because from the city's point of view as a whole, it's the first piece that hasn't had a direct control district assigned to it," he said.

"You can get free rein as to the size you can build and what you want to build there."

Webb hopes local businesses take a close look at moving into University Heights Square, saying a mix of local and national stores would be ideal for the development.

"We're hoping to have some local entrepreneurial input -- a local aspect to it," he said.

At the earliest, construction will begin this fall, said Evans.

Potential tenants have toured the site, he added, saying the economic downturn isn't slowing interest in the development.

Eventually, the project will become a key part of northwest Saskatoon, an area that will be home to more than 40,000 people in a few years' time.

"You've got an area of Saskatoon that has relatively new residents and fairly high-income residents out in that area, so it's kind of a natural," Evans said.

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Excellent one more vast expanse of asphalt with a few faux-flavour of the month buildings housing generic stores. I think that the appeal to local business is a bit of a red herring, as it is likely going to end up looking like any other "power centre". Welcome to Anytown, North America. What's wrong with having local stores you can walk to, on streets you can walk down? Oh, I forgot, that wouldn't suit Walmart. Pardon the cynicism
     
     
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i would like to see big things on 2nd avenue. perhaps even a 30 story tower, maybe a roof top restaurant on the galeria parkade across from sears. just my dreams
     
     
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Does anyone have any idea when the hotel and condo by Victoria bridge will start construction? Will it be this year?
     
     
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When will Lake Placid (why they would name it after a ski village in upstate New York) hit the ground?
     
     
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So I've been thinking about why areas such as 8th street have all the parkin infront of the shops rather then behind them. Would it not make sense to have large sidewalks, shops right up to the sidewalk, trees and planters along the whold street (even if it is for winners etc.) then have all the parking lots behind the shops, so a pedestrian friendly and more aesthetically pleasing and comfortalbe atmoshpere is created? What's everyone elses input?
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Does anyone have any idea when the hotel and condo by Victoria bridge will start construction? Will it be this year?
Are you referring to River Landing Village?

I'm sorry, I just found 'hotel and condo by Victoria bridge' to be a little gratuitous for Saskatoon's highest profile construction project.


Anyway, I think someone mentioned a feature in the SP earlier. The Saskatoon Business Magazine. It's a wealth of information about current and upcoming projects in the city.

http://shopping.saskatoonstarphoenix.canada.com/SS/Page.aspx?&secid=57539&pagenum=1&facing=false
     
     
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Can I post screen shots on this forum? Oh well, I just did.

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CNN, wow, did they finally just find out we existed. Article... Pretty Decent for CNN.

I guess Brad wall is trying to say: We invest in the stock market too, so of course Saskatchewan is hurting.
     
     
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So I've been thinking about why areas such as 8th street have all the parkin infront of the shops rather then behind them. Would it not make sense to have large sidewalks, shops right up to the sidewalk, trees and planters along the whold street (even if it is for winners etc.) then have all the parking lots behind the shops, so a pedestrian friendly and more aesthetically pleasing and comfortalbe atmoshpere is created? What's everyone elses input?
That would improve 8th ten fold from its current state.

I am not sure of the logic behind parking lots in front (more convenient for those who drive?).

8th Street has long way (long time) to go before it becomes pedestrian friendly. The potential for more intense land use is certainly there with the many walkup apartments/condos running almost the entire length of the commercial strip on both sides, directly behind the businesses...if only all of those walkups and businesses were built as mixed use buildings fronting 8th . 8th should begin to see mid/high rise buildings in the not too distant future. With such a large concentration of retail and commercial, its only a matter of time before a developer comes along and integrates a residential project into the mix. Once that process is initiated, 8th Street could become Saskatoon's most densely packed corridor (of course, streetcar service or other would become necessary/viable).
     
     
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I can definately see it becoming a one of the cities densest corridors, but I just find it interesting as to why developments are never done like that, with parking in the centre for example and all the shops along the perimeter, retail space would be maximized as well as with the extra aesthetic value the land would be worth more.
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I can definately see it becoming a one of the cities densest corridors, but I just find it interesting as to why developments are never done like that, with parking in the centre for example and all the shops along the perimeter, retail space would be maximized as well as with the extra aesthetic value the land would be worth more.
Aesthetics would not win in a battle against parking lots...there's no contest. 8th Street parking lots will win, by a good margin too (where do car enthusiasts park their heaps of steel?).

What do you mean by parking in the centre? Like, a parking square??? With shops facing inwards or outwards...I thought we wanted parking in the rear, behind the businesses.

I'm confused

Oh I have been meaning to ask you kgc087, is your sig 'just be' a reference to Tiesto?
     
     
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Sorry for any confusion, school is starting to get to my head, along 8th st. yes just behind the shops which are along the sidewalk rather then the reverse but say for new developments which are say a block large, put the parkin in the center with the shops on the outside facing outward.

It is actually a reference to two things, first taoism (philisophical to be specific) and second yes the song just be by tiesto (maybe one day we will be worth of him to visit )
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Sorry for any confusion, school is starting to get to my head, along 8th st. yes just behind the shops which are along the sidewalk rather then the reverse but say for new developments which are say a block large, put the parkin in the center with the shops on the outside facing outward.

It is actually a reference to two things, first taoism (philisophical to be specific) and second yes the song just be by tiesto (maybe one day we will be worth of him to visit )
Okay, thanks for clearing that up.

Facing outward with parking in the middle it doesn't get rid of the auto dependency completely, but it could be a first step towards pedestrian domination. Now, would you have those people who drive and park in the centre, exit their cars and make their way through an entrance on the interior of the square, or would they make their way around to the front of the businesses, thereby injecting some street life?

People on the sidewalks is a critical indicator of a healthy pedestrian environment (in general).

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I would say they would have to make their way around, this would definatley get the idea across that public transit and pedestrian oriented shopping centeres are desired over auto. This idea to me just seems to make so much sense, for 8th street and all future developments or redevelopments.

Yah if I did not drop dead from the announcment I would be right there dancing away, talking about stoon development LOL! Did you ever see Buuren in Calgary?
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I would say they would have to make their way around, this would definatley get the idea across that public transit and pedestrian oriented shopping centeres are desired over auto. This idea to me just seems to make so much sense, for 8th street and all future developments or redevelopments.

Yah if I did not drop dead from the announcment I would be right there dancing away, talking about stoon development LOL! Did you ever see Buuren in Calgary?
I agree. We need incentives and disincentives.

Unfortunately, no. I missed out on quite a few in Calgary (Ferry Corsten, Above and Beyond, Gabriel and Dresden, Blank and Jones, Kaskade...). I saw Benny Benassi when he came to Saskatoon back in winter of 2006. So much positive energy, good times.
     
     
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Just noticed on the Calgary thread that Lake Placid has pulled back on their Calgary "Centurion" condo development. It is to become a hotel of diffferent design due to slow pre sales of condos. I wonder how River Landing is doing? The information referred to above regarding RL, although quite positive, is short on details and is quite dated.
     
     
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