YVR Airport & Sea Island Developments Discussion

[clooless]

Originally Posted by ravman

yeah BUT what if i were to place drugs on the plane that is going south...

I would be charged under US laws for importing narcotics amongs the other charges....

No, you would be charged under the applicable Canadian law as you have not left Canada. As I described above, there are signs alerting you to this fact in the customs area at YYZ (Pearson) and likely every other Canadian airport with pre-clearance facilities.

[ravman]

Originally Posted by clooless

No, you would be charged under the applicable Canadian law as you have not left Canada. As I described above, there are signs alerting you to this fact in the customs area at YYZ (Pearson) and likely every other Canadian airport with pre-clearance facilities.

as someone who has worked in the airport, trust me. I was told by supervisors to be extra cautious with what i bring/leave behind in the transborder side and that all actions would be enforced by US officials. Basically things are extra strict on that side as they are on the other side... the planes on those sides are technically US space even though the wheels are on Canadian land.

now i mean the planes are US soil and not the actual terminal or aprons (outside area where pple work)

[clooless]

OK. I understand. I recall reading something that the planes themselves are considered to be under U.S. jurisdiction, just not the clearance area in the terminal.

[ravman]

Originally Posted by clooless

OK. I understand. I recall reading something that the planes themselves are considered to be under U.S. jurisdiction, just not the clearance area in the terminal.

when a plane moves from domestic terminal to go to the Transborder side, it is "swept clean and bombed check" on the non transborder side and then driven over... for planes arriving from and then departing back to America are cleaned and bomb checked under Canadian authority before jurisdiction is given to the yankees

its kinda complex to explain here

[Yume-sama]

They actually bomb check every plane?

[SpongeG]

of course

[teriyaki]

Originally Posted by Yume-sama

They actually bomb check every plane?

I never knew that either. Go homeland security!

[ravman]

Originally Posted by Yume-sama

They actually bomb check every plane?

edit not every plane...


EVERY SEAT


Yes, all the seats get ripped up and get a good "pat-down"

[Hourglass]

YVR passenger numbers for January down 9.3% from a year earlier.

Ouch. The capacity cutbacks by the arilines are really starting to show in traffic figures...

YVR January 2009 Traffic Report

[trofirhen]

Given the current economic crisis, the stranglehold on air routes by Ottawa in favour of Toronto (with the long-awaited exception of the EU-Canada Open Skies agreement), and the relatively modest size of Vancouver as a
city, it looks as if it's going to be a few years before we really join the airport "Big-League." This seems to be what most people want: an airport that reflects the size, character and status of the city, along with the ease of getting from point A to point B. We have a great terminal with charming landscaping and modern facilities, all of which earn us accolades from folks like Condé Nast Magazine, and Skytrax. As for jets lining up on the runway for takeoff to all four corners of the world ... well ... that may take a while, but it's probably a future reality. Just how many years away is the question.

[SpongeG]

its happenning everywhere not just YVR

many airlines are cutting back routes all over the place and passenger traffic is down

[SpongeG]

the rings at YVR look awesome

they change colours and do a need effect but they weren't doing it by the time I got my camera out its extremely bright and really eye catching and huge

pics by me

[trofirhen]

There's been a a big push recently by Emirates to land more often at Toronto, and to start service to Vancouver as well. This includes the AIRBUS 380 giant jet. If you're interested, theres an informative article on the (so very typical) Canadian restrictions at:

http://www.financialpost.com/story.html?id=1395409

[Gordon]

That's interesting information, hopefully the Federal Governmnet will allow that to happen.
The construction projects in the Domestic Terminal will be finished by June.

[osirisboy]

are there any renderings of the terminal expansion?

[Gordon]

I don'y know if there are . Ther may be some pictures on PCL's Website.

[Canadian Mind]

Originally Posted by trofirhen

There's been a a big push recently by Emirates to land more often at Toronto, and to start service to Vancouver as well. This includes the AIRBUS 380 giant jet. If you're interested, theres an informative article on the (so very typical) Canadian restrictions at:

http://www.financialpost.com/story.html?id=1395409

More airports than Just Montreal, Toronto, and Vancouver.

Should add atleast Comox, Iqaluit to the list, even though there only use would be emergency landings.

[whatnext]

Originally Posted by trofirhen

There's been a a big push recently by Emirates to land more often at Toronto, and to start service to Vancouver as well. This includes the AIRBUS 380 giant jet. If you're interested, theres an informative article on the (so very typical) Canadian restrictions at:

http://www.financialpost.com/story.html?id=1395409

Good for those restrictions. Why let state-controlled Emirates come in and rape our own airlines?

[Denscity]

More choices means lower prices. Emirates are high quality from what i understand as well.

[trofirhen]

Originally Posted by whatnext

Good for those restrictions. Why let state-controlled Emirates come in and rape our own airlines?

Now that Air canada has gobbled up Canadian Air lines (formery CP Air), and WESTJET fills a big gap on intra-Canadian, and holiday charters, Canada is left - or, rather -VANCOUVER - is left with an under-represented overseas presence, be it one of our airlines, or a foreign airline. And whether they're state-controlled or not, does that matter, at this point?
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In terms of overseas destinations - out of Vancouver - serviced by Air Canada, other than USA destinations like SFO, LAX, DFW and a couple of others, the ONLY overseas destination served from Vancouver in Europe is London Heathrow; not even Frankfurt, nor Amsterdam. Of course, there are several Asian destinations served by Air Canada, and Sydney, too.
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Does Air Canada fly from Vancouver to Dubai?
NO; Why? Because it chooses not to. Dubai is a major world hub, rather like Singapore or Hong Kong - only richer - and is gaining enormous momentum financially, as a transit point, and as a tourist destination the world over.
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Here we have Emirates, wanting to serve Vancouver, Air Canada stuffily saying "no!" and you're screaming "rape"? ! ? !
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Having Emirates servicing Vancouver would enhance the city as a major world destination air-wise, and provide momentum for other as-yet nonexistent routes, like Paris, Rome, New Delhi, among others.
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It seems to me that in your way of thinking, we should cut out other airlines like BA, KLM, Lufthansa, United, Delta, American, and other foreign carriers; like JAL, Korean Air Lines, Air New Zealand . . . . That way they wouldn't be "raping" Air Canada (or Westjet either) Then we could put in excellent Air Canada to San Francisco, L.A., Chicago, Dallas, Phoenix, Washington D.C., LHR, Denver, Tokyo, Auckland, Seoul, Beijing . . . .
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YEAH. . RIGHT !!
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Hey, did you know that GREYHOUND busses is an American firm.
Yeppers. . . . American. And they're the only one offering an across-Canada bus service.
Are they "raping" our cross-Canada bus services? NO. WHY? THERE'S NOTHING TO RAPE. (Otherwise stated, there exists no Canadian-owned, cross Canada bus service).
It's parallel with the air industry. Can you fathom that?