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Old Posted Feb 25, 2009, 4:05 AM
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Flights in and out of Vancouver plummet

At the harbour, they’re blaming the fog. At the international airport, they’re blaming the economy.

Either way, flights in and out of Vancouver were down sharply in January, Statistics Canada reported Tuesday.

Traffic at Vancouver International Airport plummeted 16 per cent last month to 21,105 aircraft movements from 25,421 in January last year. That compares to a national drop of 12.9 per cent.

At Coal Harbour, the total number of takeoffs and landings declined a whopping 51 per cent from 3,539 to 1,793.

“The fog had a substantial impact on our operations in January, which was very rare, very abnormal,” said Rick Baxter, president and CEO of Vancouver-based West Coast Air. “We’ve never experienced those kinds of flight cancellations ever.”

But it’s not all gloomy skies. While a number of airlines have announced capacity reductions at YVR, others are expanding service for the spring and summer, said airport spokeswoman Kate Donegani.

Singapore Airlines says it is pulling out of Vancouver in April because of falling passenger volumes. However, Philippine Airlines is increasing flights to Manila from five to seven a week in March and China Eastern Airlines will offer daily service to Shanghai starting in June, up from three times a week.

Meanwhile, float-plane flights from the harbour have rebounded, Baxter said.

“It’s nice that the weather has been great in February. Business has been good. It’s definitely coming back.”

Richmond-based Harbour Air “didn’t turn a prop for two weeks” because of January’s big fog, said Randy Wight, senior vice-president. Snow also grounded some flights in December and early January.

“We had a terrible month (from) Christmas into January, but it has bounced back quite nicely,” Wight said. “We’re not seeing any impact from the economy so far and we’re keeping our fingers crossed.”

To try to recoup some of January’s lost business, West Coast Air has introduced a half-price standby fare for its midday flights and recently announced some fare reductions in response to falling fuel prices.

Donegani said YVR was still tracking its own numbers for aircraft traffic in January, but a decline had been expected because of the economic downturn.

After welcoming a record 17.85 million passengers last year — 350,000 more than in 2007 — Canada’s second-busiest airport is expecting a drop-off of about 4.5 per cent this year.

While fewer flights mean fewer landing fees, Donegani said the Vancouver Airport Authority is committed to to keeping its landing costs to the airlines as low as possible. It currently has the lowest landing fees of any major airport in Canada.

Nor does it anticipate raising its $15 airport improvement fee charged to most passengers.

“This airport and airports around the world are facing some challenges with the economy being what it is, but we’ve budgeted for that and anticipated some reduction in this year’s business,” Donegani said.

Most of the airport’s $1.4-billion expansion program will be completed this year and no financing difficulties are anticipated, she said. While the airport is trying to minimize costs, no layoffs are planned.

http://www.vancouversun.com/business/Flights+Vancouver+plummet/1324887/story.html

I got a kick out of the picture they chose to run with the story! could it be any older - oi vei


At Coal Harbour, the total number of takeoffs and landings in January declined a whopping 51 per cent from 3,539 to 1,793.Photograph by: Stuart Davis, Vancouver Sun files
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Old Posted Feb 25, 2009, 4:36 AM
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Just wondering if people wanted certain pictures taken from inside past the security area. I'll be there in 2.5 weeks and wouldn't mind taking some pictures of things you wanted (not with a nice camera or anything) if I find the time.

Just throwing that out there.
     
     
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also as mentioned earilier in this threrad Korean Air is going to Daily service from either 3 or 4 days \week

Is there any news on the progress of the pier C expansioon?
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 25, 2009, 6:58 PM
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Just wondering if people wanted certain pictures taken from inside past the security area. I'll be there in 2.5 weeks and wouldn't mind taking some pictures of things you wanted (not with a nice camera or anything) if I find the time.

Just throwing that out there.
Yes, please! If it's possible, some airside photos of jets lined up, taking off and landing, and perhaps some views of the terminal would be great, if you can manage that. Capturing the atmosphere of the airport is part of what this page is all about. Thanks for the offer.
     
     
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From the Richmond News:

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Pipeline open house attracts few

Richmond News
Published: Wednesday, February 25, 2009

The environmentalists are crystal clear about their feelings on an aviation fuel pipe running through the heart of Richmond -- but it remains to be seen what the residents think about it.

Less than ten of them turned out Monday at the first of four public information sessions being hosted by the Vancouver Airport Fuel Facilities Corporation (VAFFC).

With several media, including the Richmond News, highlighting the plans over the weekend, VAFFC, were surprised at the poor attendance at the Holiday Inn on Cambie Road.
"We had been expecting a lot more," said VAFFC spokeswoman Gwennie Cheung.

"There were stories in the newspapers and the radio and adverts. We're hoping more people come to the next one on Thursday.

"The purpose of these events is to inform the public and get their feedback. It kind of defeats the purpose if no-one comes."

The next session is Thursday, Feb. 26 from 3 to 7 p.m. at the Aberdeen Centre, where more people are expected to attend.

The News reported last week that VAFFC, which is owned by most of the airlines that use YVR, wants to build a fuel receiving facility on the south arm of the Fraser River and then pump the fuel via a 30-centimetre wide and 15-kilometre long underground pipe diagonally across Richmond to the airport.

Environmentalists have condemned the idea, warning of risks of fuel spills from tankers coming up the river and of leaks from the pipe.

VAFFC say a new fuel delivery system, which will take 25-35 tanker truck movements off the road, is needed to keep up with demand and because the current pipeline from a Burnaby refinery is aging.

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Old Posted Feb 25, 2009, 10:30 PM
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Just wondering if people wanted certain pictures taken from inside past the security area. I'll be there in 2.5 weeks and wouldn't mind taking some pictures of things you wanted (not with a nice camera or anything) if I find the time.

Just throwing that out there.
pictures of the stores and such

I am tired of seeing the aquarium and "art"
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Is there a good place to view planes yet, at the airport, or is that still coming?

I will be at both the domestic and international areas on the 9th.
     
     
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for the general public?

I don't think there is anything yet - is there something planned? you haven't been able to see much action from the building itself in years
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When i was there last, you can go upstairs near the link building and there's a neat little area there where you can see out.

I think I remember seeing signage regarding a viewing area. Originally there was an open-air area planned but NAV-Canada/FAA wouldn't approve it.
     
     
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Flights in and out of Vancouver plummet

At Coal Harbour, the total number of takeoffs and landings in January declined a whopping 51 per cent from 3,539 to 1,793.Photograph by: Stuart Davis, Vancouver Sun files
What year was that photo taken? I've lived on the North Shore for 21 years now and don't recognize some of those buildings.
     
     
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its about 5 years old
     
     
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its older than that - the park and seawall isn't even there in the pic - that park opened in 2000
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Well, at least they didn't go even further back!


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I haven't flown through the US departures in awhile - is the waiting area after the security checkpoint the same wiating area for international flights?
     
     
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No. It's because you actually clear US customs at YVR -- so the gates are in a separate area.

Which makes me wonder -- is that part of the airport bound by US law?
     
     
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No. It's because you actually clear US customs at YVR -- so the gates are in a separate area.

Which makes me wonder -- is that part of the airport bound by US law?
its a grey area.... depends on what you do.... RCMP will arrest you... but US govt may charge you...
     
     
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its a grey area.... depends on what you do.... RCMP will arrest you... but US govt may charge you...
There is not much grey area. You continue to be bound by Canadian law as technically you have not left Canada. There are signs to that effect posted in the pre-clearance area. At least, there are at YYZ. I don't recall seeing them at YVR.

http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/U.S.-border-preclearance

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for the general public?

I don't think there is anything yet - is there something planned? you haven't been able to see much action from the building itself in years
There was a survey on the YVR homepage that dealt with constructing an observation deck (as the airport had as built in 1968). The survey seems to have disappeared.
     
     
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There is not much grey area. You continue to be bound by Canadian law as technically you have not left Canada. There are signs to that effect posted in the pre-clearance area. At least, there are at YYZ. I don't recall seeing them at YVR.

http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/U.S.-border-preclearance
yeah BUT what if i were to place drugs on the plane that is going south...

I would be charged under US laws for importing narcotics amongs the other charges....
     
     
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There was a survey on the YVR homepage that dealt with constructing an observation deck (as the airport had as built in 1968). The survey seems to have disappeared.
ah

1968 was i guess pre-terroism

i know you used to be able to watch from the area where harveys is but its not really much of a view now and you could watch from upstairs but you had to look through the walkway and past wasn't ideal - now that is gone too
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