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Nunavut territory 30 17.96%
Yukon territory 3 1.80%
Northwest territories 4 2.40%
British Columbia 41 24.55%
Alberta 19 11.38%
Saskatchewan 13 7.78%
Manitoba 5 2.99%
Ontario 6 3.59%
Quebec 61 36.53%
New Brunswick 56 33.53%
Prince Edward Island 11 6.59%
Nova Scotia 42 25.15%
Newfoundland & Labrador 14 8.38%
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Old Posted Feb 18, 2009, 4:59 PM
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Here's a flag for Ontario -- Halfway between the UK and Jamaica

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I like New Brunswick's the best. It's the nicest. Followed by Québec.
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Nunavut, then it's a toss up between Quebec and Nova Scotia.
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Some Manitoba New Democrats push for new provincial flag, saying old one outdated




By: Steve Lambert, THE CANADIAN PRESS

WINNIPEG - Some grassroots members of Manitoba's governing New Democrats want the province to adopt a new flag, saying the current one, as well as that of Ontario, is an archaic symbol of British rule.

Manitoba's flag "is outdated and a relic from the days of our former British colonial heritage", reads a resolution by the NDP's Riel constituency association in south Winnipeg. The resolution is on the agenda of the provincial party's annual convention next month.

"Manitoba's flag is often confused with Ontario's flag, with the only difference being a bison ... instead of three maple leaves."

Both provinces' flags are similar to the Red Ensign that Canada used as a national flag prior to adopting the maple leaf design in 1965.

There is a red background, a Union Jack in the upper left corner, and a provincial symbol toward the bottom right corner. The Manitoba symbol contains a bison. Ontario's features a clutch of maple leaves.

It's not the first time Manitoba and Ontario have been accused of needing a pennant makeover.

In 2001, a U.S.-based volunteer group of flag enthusiasts called the North American Vexillological Association ranked the flags of 72 states, provinces, territories and districts. Ontario and Manitoba placed 43rd and 44th respectively.

The group criticized flags that were not distinctive, and praised those with simple, bold designs such as Quebec's Fleur-de-lis, which ranked third on the continent behind Texas and New Mexico.

The Riel constituency association is proposing the government hold a provincewide public contest to develop a more modern flag.

But any change is likely to be an uphill battle.

Manitoba's opposition Progressive Conservatives say the current flag is an important symbol of the province's roots.

"I think it is good as is," Tory Leader Hugh McFadyen said.

"It reflects some important aspects of Manitoba's history. Certainly many of our traditions came here as a result of the British democratic parliamentary system. There's also a reflection with the bison in the flag of the important role that ... Manitoba's natural wildlife played with our First Nations and Metis people."

Premier Gary Doer did not comment. A spokesman for the premier's office says Doer attends conventions to listen to debates and "not prejudge what (the) convention may or may not pass."

The proposal to change the flag will have to battle for time and attention at the NDP convention.

With limited time set aside each year to debate some 200 or more resolutions, most issues never come to a vote. A similar flag proposal withered away on the convention agenda last year, as party members prioritized economic, social and labour issues.

And even if the party approves a call for a new flag, the demand is not binding on the government. Doer has rejected convention decisions in the past, including a call for the province to ban companies from hiring replacement workers during strikes.

Among the other resolutions this year is a call to encourage drivers to use snow tires in winter through either a subsidy or legislation.

Another constituency group wants the province to develop a "repopulation" plan for rural areas.

There are also proposals to make labour history a mandatory part of the high school curriculum, to establish a recycling program for beverage containers, and to allow free admission to provincial parks every weekend.
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Old Posted Feb 26, 2009, 12:16 AM
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"It reflects some important aspects of Manitoba's history. Certainly many of our traditions came here as a result of the British democratic parliamentary system. There's also a reflection with the bison in the flag of the important role that ... Manitoba's natural wildlife played with our First Nations and Metis people."
Aside from the Hudson Bay Company, Britain really didn't have all that much to do with Manitoba's development. It was led more by the Voyageurs and Métis, neither of which would have done well on the continent without the knowledge of the First Nations. That isn't really reflected, is it? As it is, England is represented twice, in the Union Flag and the top of the shield. The parliament might be a British model, but the flag represents the province, not its government.
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Man, "Progressive" Conservatives really hate change. and are massive killjoys! A provincial flag should be unique to a province. Like what that group on flag stated.
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A Manitoba flag that's all green with a bigger musk ox in the centre would look pretty cool, IMO.
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A bison would better reflect the history of the province.
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Or pirogies!

I personaly love Nunavut's flag.

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A bison would better reflect the history of the province.
Sorry, that's what I meant.

Although, a musk ox fighting a bison would be pretty tough.
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WINNIPEG - Some grassroots members of Manitoba's governing New Democrats want the province to adopt a new flag, saying the current one, as well as that of Ontario, is an archaic symbol of British rule.

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The group criticized flags that were not distinctive, and praised those with simple, bold designs such as Quebec's Fleur-de-lis, which ranked third on the continent behind Texas and New Mexico.
It's kind of a bizarre thing, but Quebec's fleur-de-lys is then as an 'archaic symbol' of French monarchical rule as the Union Jack is a symbol of the British rule. That's not why Manitoba's, or Ontario's flag is bad. It's just an awful design, simple as that.
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I always found that a little strange. The French were -quite- eager to get rid of all things monarchy in 1789, but the fleur de lis managed to survive on the flag of Quebec.
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Here's a flag for Ontario -- Halfway between the UK and Jamaica

That looks kind of cool.
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I always found that a little strange. The French were -quite- eager to get rid of all things monarchy in 1789, but the fleur de lis managed to survive on the flag of Quebec.
I've always thought about that too. But I think the fleur de lis has evolved to become the symbol of all things francophone.
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I always found that a little strange. The French were -quite- eager to get rid of all things monarchy in 1789, but the fleur de lis managed to survive on the flag of Quebec.
Nah, Quebec was a British colony (had been since 1763) by the time the French Revolution rolled around in 1789. So some of the old French royalist symbolism like the fleur de lys remained in Quebec, as did the institutional influence of the Catholic church (which was done away with in France at that time) in schools, hospitals, social services, etc.

Names starting with, for example, De, Du, Des, Dela are also much more predominant in Quebec today because in France they were often associated with the aristocracy so the fear of the revolutionary guillotine incited a lot of people to do away with them. There was no such fear in Quebec.
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I've always thought about that too. But I think the fleur de lis has evolved to become the symbol of all things francophone.
Yes, but only in the North American context, where it is used by most francophone groups both in Canada (a notable exception are the Acadians) and even in the U.S.

There is no notable over-arching francophone symbol in Europe, although both France and the "French Community of Belgium" (actually an official governmental entity there) do use the rooster.
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That would be a great flag. Either that bird, or the "Oh 🞵🞵🞵🞵" one.

.. oops, I mean "Au Coq".
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That would be a great flag. Either that bird, or the "Oh 🞵🞵🞵🞵" one.

.. oops, I mean "Au Coq".
Ah, the perils of translation...

Français : Est-ce que vous allez manger Au Coq?

English : Are you going to eat At the 🞵🞵🞵🞵?
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