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Old Posted Feb 13, 2009, 7:58 PM
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I doubt that Bass Pro would located along 565. They rely pretty heavily on people seeing them as they're driving down the interstate. 565 sees mostly commuters that are more worried about getting to work or getting home.

I think Bass Pro will resume their efforts to locate at the 65/565 interchange as soon as the economy starts showing some signs of picking up.
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1) It is clear ALDOT is not concerned with addressing existing congestion issues - otherwise I-65 through North Shelby County would be 8 lanes.

B) It is clear ALDOT is not concerned with future congestion issues- otherwise Huntsville would be seeing some action.

3) It is clear politics is the driving force behind ALDOT's plans - that would explain the 6 lanes currently under construction near the Honda plant in Podunk on I-20.

D) It is clear ALDOT is not concerned with mass transit in the least - anywhere.


I say let's take what we can get and ride on some toll roads.
20/59 and 459 in western Jefferson Co. definitely need to be expanded to 6 lanes. I guess it was just easier and less costly to get the expansion done in Tuscaloosa County.

I know I keep contributing to the threadjacking and I'm sorry. Maybe somebody or a mod can open up a thread on Alabama highways?
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This overpass, bridge really would be about a mile long

A federal economic stimulus bill would pay to build an overpass on Memorial Parkway at Sparkman and Max Luther drives, and free up money possibly for use on other area road projects.
Joe Vallely, the city's economic development director, said that Don Vaughn, the chief engineer for the Alabama Department of Transportation, confirmed today that the overpass would be among the projects that the state would pay for from the proposed stimulus package.

Part of the federal stimulus money would be dedicated to transportation projects that would be ready to begin within 180 days.

The state plans to open bids for the Sparkman/Max Luther overpass in March regardless of the stimulus package's fate. Bids on the project were slated to be opened in last fall and then in December before sliding back to March.
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Thanks for the website. Are these numbers yearly? Monthly? Daily?


Those volumes should be for daily traffic.

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Those volumes should be for daily traffic.

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Huntsville International Airport parking deck expansion basically complete




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High rise proposal sought and location identified, there were parking garages in Huntsville's stimulas package wish list which may be tied into this.

By JOHN PECK
Times Staff Writer [email protected]
Proposals sought for 2.6 acres at Holmes, Jefferson

The City of Huntsville has a downtown site it wants developed into a "signature" mixed-use building that could dominate the skyline.

A legal notice this week solicits proposals from would-be developers.

The 2.6-acre site at the northwest corner of Holmes Avenue and Jefferson Street is now a city parking lot. The property is across the street from the Siniard Timberlake and League law firm and is often used as a staging area for the annual Whistlestop Barbecue Festival.

City Planning Director Dallas Fanning said Thursday several investors had expressed interest in the site so Mayor Tommy Battle asked the planning department to issue a formal request for proposals.

"We're just seeing if there's any interest out there in the development community," Fanning said. Interested parties have until April 20 to submit their bids.

Fanning said the city envisions a major building that would bring vibrancy to downtown.

"We would prefer to see retail office and residential. That's a preference. The market might dictate something else," Fanning said. "We'll see what the response is."

Fanning said a parking garage would probably be part of the deal, although it remains unclear whether the developer would build it or the city would build the garage and lease the air space above for development.

City leaders have been trying over the years to increase commerce downtown to keep the city core from drying up as it has in many cities. Several private developers have led the way, opening restaurants in and around the courthouse square, renovating old department stores into condos, and filling in some gaps with renovated office buildings. City investments in Big Spring Park, downtown streets and other improvements have helped promote such growth.

The economic downturn threatens much of that momentum. Just recently, a proposed six-story city parking garage off Lincoln Street was shelved, killing an attached condominium development that would have accompanied it. The project was scuttled amid controversy over a downtown building height limit that threatened to reduce the development to four stories.

The City Planning Department has since begun taking steps to remove the overall 10-story, 150-foot limit for core downtown and set two- and four-story height limits only on buildings adjacent neighborhoods.

Randy Schrimsher, the would-be developer of the Lincoln project, said Thursday that he remains open to renegotiating the condo portion to four stories, but six would be better to make the units more affordable.

Schrimsher said landing a major building for the Holmes-Jefferson site may be challenging given today's economic climate.

"I've heard there are some developers interested. I hope so. Wouldn't it be great?" Schrimsher said.
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Seems like the most that will come of this any time soon is getting somebody to buy the options for this site.
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High rise proposal sought and location identified, there were parking garages in Huntsville's stimulas package wish list which may be tied into this.

By JOHN PECK
Times Staff Writer [email protected]
Proposals sought for 2.6 acres at Holmes, Jefferson

The City of Huntsville has a downtown site it wants developed into a "signature" mixed-use building that could dominate the skyline.

A legal notice this week solicits proposals from would-be developers.

The 2.6-acre site at the northwest corner of Holmes Avenue and Jefferson Street is now a city parking lot. The property is across the street from the Siniard Timberlake and League law firm and is often used as a staging area for the annual Whistlestop Barbecue Festival.

City Planning Director Dallas Fanning said Thursday several investors had expressed interest in the site so Mayor Tommy Battle asked the planning department to issue a formal request for proposals.

"We're just seeing if there's any interest out there in the development community," Fanning said. Interested parties have until April 20 to submit their bids.

Fanning said the city envisions a major building that would bring vibrancy to downtown.

"We would prefer to see retail office and residential. That's a preference. The market might dictate something else," Fanning said. "We'll see what the response is."

Fanning said a parking garage would probably be part of the deal, although it remains unclear whether the developer would build it or the city would build the garage and lease the air space above for development.

City leaders have been trying over the years to increase commerce downtown to keep the city core from drying up as it has in many cities. Several private developers have led the way, opening restaurants in and around the courthouse square, renovating old department stores into condos, and filling in some gaps with renovated office buildings. City investments in Big Spring Park, downtown streets and other improvements have helped promote such growth.

The economic downturn threatens much of that momentum. Just recently, a proposed six-story city parking garage off Lincoln Street was shelved, killing an attached condominium development that would have accompanied it. The project was scuttled amid controversy over a downtown building height limit that threatened to reduce the development to four stories.

The City Planning Department has since begun taking steps to remove the overall 10-story, 150-foot limit for core downtown and set two- and four-story height limits only on buildings adjacent neighborhoods.

Randy Schrimsher, the would-be developer of the Lincoln project, said Thursday that he remains open to renegotiating the condo portion to four stories, but six would be better to make the units more affordable.

Schrimsher said landing a major building for the Holmes-Jefferson site may be challenging given today's economic climate.

"I've heard there are some developers interested. I hope so. Wouldn't it be great?" Schrimsher said.
This is an excellent spot (good infill) and would address a very dead section of downtown.
Actually that entire area should be targeted for renewal north of Holmes, and all around the Huntsville Depot. Some good development has occured along Church St to I-565. Both Church and Meridian St. are slated for improvements so this should enhance the site even more. Easy quick access
to I-565 and Memorial Parkway also are positives. Now what would a signature tower be? Well for Huntsville it's wide open, wouldn't take much, height, dramatic architecture, impressive lighting, landscaping. A project like this would really be a catalyst for downtown. This area would be perfect for high tech/research companies who may not want or need to locate in Cummings Research Park. Something in the 20-30 story range would be a start.
Another high rise hotspot would be along Clinton west of the Coca Cola Bottling Plant to Memorial Parkway. There is an office building planned across from the Constellation development (wow is it even viable now?)
Maybe a 16 story mid rise but plans are ghostly. Good to see that there is some talk about anything taller than the trees downtown.
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Old Posted Feb 21, 2009, 12:14 AM
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This sounds like a premature solicitation to sell and could lead to another disappointment like Summit, or worse yet another eyesore like (yes I said it) the Embassy Suites.

The only thing the market might want in downtown is another parking deck, or another office building for yet more attorneys. If the market won't get the dirt moving on Constellation, Harris Hills or Sweetwater and any other mixed-use development, who the hell believes the market will want or move retail and residential on the corner of Holmes and Jefferson???

Sorry, the $750 billion pork-spending bill has got me cynical about the economy's prospects again.
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This comes from the inside, but BP Decatur is one of three U.S. BP plants under consideration for permanent closure. Only one of the three on the list will be shutdown. It is in the hands of the accountants now.
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Hopefully, it's location on the river and proximity to interstates and railroads will help steer the decision away from it.
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This is an excellent spot (good infill) and would address a very dead section of downtown.
Actually that entire area should be targeted for renewal north of Holmes, and all around the Huntsville Depot. Some good development has occured along Church St to I-565. Both Church and Meridian St. are slated for improvements so this should enhance the site even more. Easy quick access
to I-565 and Memorial Parkway also are positives. Now what would a signature tower be? Well for Huntsville it's wide open, wouldn't take much, height, dramatic architecture, impressive lighting, landscaping. A project like this would really be a catalyst for downtown. This area would be perfect for high tech/research companies who may not want or need to locate in Cummings Research Park. Something in the 20-30 story range would be a start.
Another high rise hotspot would be along Clinton west of the Coca Cola Bottling Plant to Memorial Parkway. There is an office building planned across from the Constellation development (wow is it even viable now?)
Maybe a 16 story mid rise but plans are ghostly. Good to see that there is some talk about anything taller than the trees downtown.
Yes, that would be a great location for a high rise mix-use tower.

I wonder how many stories they have in mind? I would assume at least 20 or more. Something I would like to see happen with that area is more free public parking. Also, I would like to see the city renovate the big Regions bank that's located above the park. They should close it as a bank and open it as a City of Huntsville Museum. There needs to be more attractions and museums in downtown to increase both tourism and nightlife. I've been thinking about the city having a man-made waterfall installed at the top of the rock wall there to replace the cheap looking sprout and to open a walkway around the back of the bank for visitors to be able to look over and see a grand view of the downtown park. Also now that the fire station is vacant, tear down the old one along with the city of Huntsville building next to it and expand the park an extra 2 acres and add a couple small eateries or clubs with live entertainment and shops. Bring some life to the park. There's great potential in BSP and with the Civic Center about to undergo a new facelift and expansion this will be the primary top location for tourism in downtown. You got to have a visonary plan if you want to grow and compete with other cities nearby.

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Art museum downtown expected to get ok on revised expansion plans


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By JOHN PECK
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Redesign cuts parking, shaves cost to $8M

The Huntsville Museum of Art will ask the City Council tonight for the go-ahead on a scaled down expansion plan of its building in Big Spring International Park.

Council President Mark Russell will introduce a resolution affirming council approval of the new design. Council approval would allow museum officials to move forward with detailed architectural plans in the hope of starting construction by summer.

The plan includes a reduction of 35 surface parking places after council members raised concerns about the loss of green space.
The revision removes a planned building addition and 64-slot parking garage topped with a "sculpture garden" on the museum's south side facing Williams Avenue.
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What a beautiful

example of government waste.


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The money is going to be taken from them anyway through taxation. Where do you think the money comes from when government builds non-toll roads?

And it's more fair to make those that use the road pay for it than to take the socialist route of making everyone pay for it whether they use it or not.

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You missed my point, why should much needed infrastructure upgrades be toll roads?! Look elsewhere in the country or even in this region. Nashville or Atlanta have multiple bypasses, not the first one is a toll road. Why should Huntsville's first and only bypass be a toll road?! I'm not against toll roads completely if other options for a commute are present, but Huntsville has little to no options for commuting through or around town.

Another thing is, maybe people in your's or Tim's small world will pay for a toll road, but the majority of people in Alabama I'm sure would not. It's not in the culture, especially when you get into the rural areas of Alabama where the average people earn very little.
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Just think what that $80 million+ for the jail could have been used for if left in the private sector, to be used for profitable purposes. Government is a scam.

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I'm not surprised this project won't happen , just another fancy announcement put on the shelf. Huntsville should open a museum
where you can go see all the proposed projects that are on the shelf.
It would be impressive, kind of like SIM city. Pretty bad when the most significant downtown project is the 80- million over budget Metro jail.
Well at least future residents of the facility can get a good view of it while they drive to their appointed criminal activity.

By GINA HANNAH
Times Business Writer [email protected]
Group says it invested $6M but was not added to title

A downtown condominium project is on hold after a California-based investment group filed a lawsuit against the project's developers.

Roy Claytor, one of the partners in a deal to convert the Central Bank Building at 200 West Side Square from office/retail space into a mixed-use project, said plans to convert the office building into a mix of condominiums and retail space have been shelved.

"We have no immediate plans for the building at this time," Claytor said. "All of the project plans are now on hold."
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I found this link, and thought it was cool seeing all the residential proposals/plans for Huntsville.

http://www.hsvcity.com/GIS/dev_map/development_map.pdf

It looks like the Monrovia area is ready to explode. I have always seen the area as a great place, tons of land for development and has pretty much everything close by. It for sure needs some (a lot) infrastructure work. Maybe it will become the next big area for the Huntsville metro just some thoughts/hopes on my part.

and sorry if this has already been posted.
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I found this link, and thought it was cool seeing all the residential proposals/plans for Huntsville.

http://www.hsvcity.com/GIS/dev_map/development_map.pdf

It looks like the Monrovia area is ready to explode. I have always seen the area as a great place, tons of land for development and has pretty much everything close by. It for sure needs some (a lot) infrastructure work. Maybe it will become the next big area for the Huntsville metro just some thoughts/hopes on my part.

and sorry if this has already been posted.
It would be nice if these narrow two-lane roads with no shoulders could handle the housing boom in Monrovia. It's bad now, and it will continue to get worse. With the state's stupid decision to not build overpasses at Blake Bottom Road and Dan Tibbs Road, the traffic will get botttlenecked and backed up even worse.
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It would be nice if these narrow two-lane roads with no shoulders could handle the housing boom in Monrovia. It's bad now, and it will continue to get worse. With the state's stupid decision to not build overpasses at Blake Bottom Road and Dan Tibbs Road, the traffic will get botttlenecked and backed up even worse.
I think the constant deadly wrecks at the intersection will force them to build an overpass there. They will have no other choice.
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