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Old Posted Feb 20, 2009, 2:35 PM
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Does anyone have any recent pics on the Luxe?


I'm not sure what's going on here. The floor currently under sonstruction has no concrete shell. Is this normal for a high rise?

I've heard some muttering on the street that Meridian is on over their heads on this project. They are the general contractor and have never done anything over three floors. Whether or not this is the case, the current pattern of construction seems odd.
     
     
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Is much hapening there? I can't really see any progress. How tall is it going to be?

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Ok, never mind I found a picture.
Looks strange how there are building it. Should be more concrete.
     
     
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I'm not 100% sure on this, but I don't think any concrete has been poured since the accident.
     
     
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I'm not 100% sure on this, but I don't think any concrete has been poured since the accident.
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I'm not 100% sure on this, but I don't think any concrete has been poured since the accident.
There has been concrete poured since the accident. The central concrete shaft was not complete on that day. Secondly the building is not very tall so there is no reasno to have concrete exterior walls. I haven't seen the plans for this building but a typical construction for this type of building is to have curtain walls with the exterior finish attached to this. Basically you would only need concrete for each level if you were to have load bearing walls this isn't the case for the Lux.

Long story short progress is being made but likely slowed by the poor temperatures.
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 20, 2009, 5:50 PM
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The central concrete shaft is still not complete.
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 20, 2009, 9:33 PM
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Depending on the local building code (which can't say I'm familiar with Sask Building Codes) some provinces allow buildings to be built with stick or in this case steel stud framing, up to 6 stories. I can't see very well but there may also being some structural steel in this building?...

Concrete structures can be very expensive and will add a considerable cost to the overall construction and thus the final sticker price, so bujilding it the way they appear to be will save everyone a few bucks at the end of the day.

I'm not familiar with the general or the developer, but if they are even the least bit of a contractor and/or developer, building 3 stories ain't much different than building 6...same process all the way along, just a little higher up. As someone already stated the shaft is not completed. There is still the door bucks in place as well as the top off rebar sticking up...If the accdent occured w/a 6th floor fall, than it honestly doesn't look like they've done much in terms of the elevator shaft. Perhaps concrete has been poured in other areas of the site, if they are indeed up and running again.
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 21, 2009, 4:29 AM
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So the city courierd a package to me regarding the 3rd Ave. development plan. I emailed them stating my opinion and they sent me the complete review for all proposals and the date and time of the council meeting this week. To sum up the 3 proposals the first states to have parallel parking, bike lanes and a 4.3 meter wide median, two lanes would be used for traffic with left bay turning lanes and blubed corners, the second states to have angle parking on both sides with one traffic lane and move transit to 4th ave. and the 3rd is having angle parking on one side and parallel on the other with a 3m wide median, this would also have the left bay turning lanes and bulbed corners.

There were a couple pages discussing transit routes being rerouted to 4th Ave. and how it would greatly impact the efficiency of the transit system and how so many more buses would have to be added to keep up with efficiency, why? Because the area is already congested with vehicles while 3rd Ave. isn't so it's easy for buses to move along.

There were several pages on bike lanes and safety, the city would really like to see them implemented but unfortunatley I don't feel it's on the top of their list.

Overall the reports tone was to recommend the first. The benefit of the extra parking stalls doesn't really outway the beautification of 3rd ave. AND keeping it a main traffic road. As well my personal opinion I agree with the first option the best for the long term b/c as the city grows it is inevitable there will be more traffic downtown, restricting it down to one lane in any direction on any road downtown is just, well, stupid. If anyone wants to know more let me know, and I'll see what I can get from the report, I would scan and paste it but seeing as there are copyright issues and I don't have the authority to display the document I won't.
     
     
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i really like the lux.. but is the siding stucco? or am i mistaken?
     
     
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I would scan and paste it but seeing as there are copyright issues and I don't have the authority to display the document I won't.
The UMA report is available on the City's committee minutes web page. Download the full agenda of the 10 February and 24 February Planning and Operations committee meetings here. Feb 10 has the UMA report and the Feb 24 has Admin's follow-up report.
     
     
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Thanks madsad for the info.
     
     
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Is much hapening there? I can't really see any progress. How tall is it going to be?

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Ok, never mind I found a picture.
Looks strange how there are building it. Should be more concrete.
Hot stuff for infill. Just need that on all arterial streets!

The method your seeing (concrete core, steel structure) is reasonably common right now. You get all the steel prefab from the factory and it is like a giant erector set. There are at least two projects in Calgary that are using it right now, Riverside Quays and a Four Points Sheraton. Seems to be the most economical way to make a 4-8 story building right now, with the high price on concrete. (or rather it way during the period when these buildings were planned). Also likely lower labour costs.

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Riverside Quays. It looks like they are finishing off the first phase and leaving the rest for now.

By Jimby from http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showpost.php?p=4077814&postcount=7825 more pictures here.


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A couple of pics of the new Four Points Sheraton in the NE. Taken today, you can see how quickly a floor can go up.


Taken at 10:00am



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Third Ave. proposal gets green light

SASKATOON — The ongoing debate about rebuilding Third Avenue in downtown Saskatoon took a step forward Tuesday as a city committee approved a plan that would see wider shared bike lanes and leaves open the option for angle parking.

The discussion over Third Avenue, which has stretched on for months and that many feel will symbolically guide the future direction of the downtown core, has centered on how best to accommodate cyclists, drivers, business interests and transit as the street is remade. Under the proposed plan, which will be submitted to city council for approval, Third Avenue will keep its parallel parking and narrow to two lanes from three in each direction, with one lane shared by cyclists. It will accommodate left-turn bays, a raised centre median and bulbed curbs at the corners.

The new plan, thanks in large part to proposed three-metre-wide medians in the centre of the road as opposed to four-metre-wide medians, would allow for the shared bike lanes on either side of the road to be widened substantially and leave open the option of turning those lanes into 120 angle parking spaces in the future.

The plan is for a four-year, $7-million overhaul of Third Avenue between 19th and 23rd Streets, starting with the block between 21st and 22nd Street this year.
All of the councillors in attendance supported the plan, an indication it should be approved at the council stage.

Mayor Don Atchison said Tuesday he maintains his view that the downtown needs a “global vision” but said the compromised proposal is a move in the right direction, if the city proceeds “cautiously.”

Coun. Bob Pringle, who said Tuesday he was attempting at the last committee meeting to find a temporary compromise when he suggested the city administration explore a mix of angle and parallel parking, said he’s happy with the new plan as it satisfies competing interests.

“It accommodates the bikers, encourages people to take transit, and is safer than the angle parking,” he said.

Downtown business owners will be pleased that the flexibility for angle spaces is still there, as the need for more parking remains paramount, said Terry Scaddan, executive director of The Downtown Partnership.

“I’m happy we have an option,” he said.

“The personal vehicle doesn’t seem to be waning as a way of getting around downtown Saskatoon.”
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 24, 2009, 10:16 PM
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Willows (36 Holes)
Moon Lake (27 Holes)
Greenbryre (18 Holes) possibly down to 9
Saskatoon GCC Private (36 Holes going down to 18)
Wildwood (18 Holes)
Riverside GCC Private (18 Holes)
Silverwood (18 Holes) par 3
Holiday Park (27 Holes)

Outside city Limits:
Dakota Dunes (18 Holes)
Warman (Soon to be 18 holes)

I wonder what the chance would be of convincing the city the need for another municpal golf course.

Perhaps even create a city development around a golf course.

I know that there was talk in the past about building a golf course by Cathedral Bluffs north of the city, I wonder where the interest in that went?

It seems to me through viewing google maps and windows live maps that cities tend to grow around golf courses.

While I am sure some of the anti-sprawlers will obviously be against this. I would be in favour of another public golf course. Which in the end could be a positive on the balance sheet like holiday park.
     
     
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SASKATOON — The ongoing debate about rebuilding Third Avenue in downtown Saskatoon took a step forward Tuesday as a city committee approved a plan that would see wider shared bike lanes and leaves open the option for angle parking.

The discussion over Third Avenue, which has stretched on for months and that many feel will symbolically guide the future direction of the downtown core, has centered on how best to accommodate cyclists, drivers, business interests and transit as the street is remade. Under the proposed plan, which will be submitted to city council for approval, Third Avenue will keep its parallel parking and narrow to two lanes from three in each direction, with one lane shared by cyclists. It will accommodate left-turn bays, a raised centre median and bulbed curbs at the corners.

The new plan, thanks in large part to proposed three-metre-wide medians in the centre of the road as opposed to four-metre-wide medians, would allow for the shared bike lanes on either side of the road to be widened substantially and leave open the option of turning those lanes into 120 angle parking spaces in the future.

The plan is for a four-year, $7-million overhaul of Third Avenue between 19th and 23rd Streets, starting with the block between 21st and 22nd Street this year.
All of the councillors in attendance supported the plan, an indication it should be approved at the council stage.

Mayor Don Atchison said Tuesday he maintains his view that the downtown needs a “global vision” but said the compromised proposal is a move in the right direction, if the city proceeds “cautiously.”

Coun. Bob Pringle, who said Tuesday he was attempting at the last committee meeting to find a temporary compromise when he suggested the city administration explore a mix of angle and parallel parking, said he’s happy with the new plan as it satisfies competing interests.

“It accommodates the bikers, encourages people to take transit, and is safer than the angle parking,” he said.

Downtown business owners will be pleased that the flexibility for angle spaces is still there, as the need for more parking remains paramount, said Terry Scaddan, executive director of The Downtown Partnership.

“I’m happy we have an option,” he said.

“The personal vehicle doesn’t seem to be waning as a way of getting around downtown Saskatoon.”
This is a great step! I really hope the angle parking never materializes, and I have a feeling that if things go smoothly over the next 4-5 years it won't which is fantastic! This is an exciting step which will continue to beautify our downtown core and will continue to draw in businesses and people!
     
     
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Third Ave. compromise reached

Narrower medians mean angle parking still possible in new plan

By David Hutton, The StarPhoenixFebruary

All it took was four feet.

The debate about what to do with Third Avenue took a step forward Tuesday as a city committee struck a compromise, agreeing to forward a plan to city council that recommends narrower medians than initially proposed and therefore allows angle parking to remain an option.

The change would also see much wider inside lanes to provide more room for cyclists.

The Third Avenue redesign, which many have said will guide the future direction of downtown, was held up this month as the committee considered how best to accommodate cyclists, drivers, business interests and city transit on the key downtown artery.

Under the plan, Third Avenue would narrow to two lanes from three in each direction. It accommodates a three-metre-wide raised centre median, complete with trees, left-turn bays and bulbed curbs at the corners.

The plan is for a four-year, $7-million overhaul of the aging avenue between 19th and 23rd streets, starting with the block between 21st and 22nd this year.

"It feels like progress," said Don Cook, the city's acting manager of planning and design.

The new plan -- with a median 1.3 metres narrower than initially proposed by administration -- allows for more space on inside lanes to help cyclists. The proposal also leaves enough space for angled parking spaces to be installed in the future, though it would be tight for drivers, Cook said.

Although the plan isn't optimal for parking or traffic management, he said it is more flexible and would still bring about the desired result of reshaping the street.

Mayor Don Atchison said a more "global" look at downtown needs to be undertaken, including examining other ways to direct traffic. But he said he approves moving forward so long as the city proceeds "cautiously."

"We're trying to solve all the needs of everyone, but we don't have the space to do it," he said. "So why don't we proceed a little more cautiously here and put the medians in and see."

Atchison said wider shared bike lanes will help make the street safer and more appealing for less-experienced cyclists.

"It's an extra three feet," he said of the shared bike lanes. "It will make a difference."

Coun. Charlie Clark initially called for a bold direction for Third Avenue, with dedicated bike lanes, but said Tuesday he's satisfied with the administration's report.

"To what extent are we responding to what's happening and to what extent are we shaping what's going to happen?" Clark said. "I would love to see us make a bold statement . . . but I still feel this is making progress."

Coun. Bob Pringle noted his intention at the last committee meeting was to find a temporary compromise when he suggested city administration explore a mix of angle and parallel parking.

He said he's happy with the new plan as it satisfies competing interests.

"It accommodates the bikers, encourages people to take transit and is safer than the angle parking," he said.

Downtown business owners will be pleased angle parking remains an option as the need for more parking remains paramount, said Terry Scaddan, executive director of The Partnership.

"I'm happy we have an option," he said. "The personal vehicle doesn't seem to be waning as a way of getting around downtown Saskatoon."

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This is similar to the previous article posted but a little different.
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 25, 2009, 4:29 PM
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good news indeed, except for this part from Mr. Scadden (whose opinions I otherwise respect a great deal): "The personal vehicle doesn't seem to be waning as a way of getting around downtown Saskatoon." Ergo, we should further suplicate ourselves to the automobile and make sure the situation never changes? shrug:
     
     
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Coun. Bob Pringle noted his intention at the last committee meeting was to find a temporary compromise when he suggested city administration explore a mix of angle and parallel parking.

He said he's happy with the new plan as it satisfies competing interests.

"It accommodates the bikers, encourages people to take transit and is safer than the angle parking," he said.
I'm not sure how it encourages people to take transit, but better accomodation for bikers should be nice.
     
     
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